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What do you want to see the 49ers work on during the bye week?
What do you want to see the 49ers work on during the bye week?
Oct 31, 2012 at 1:26 PM
- NYS49er
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involve randy rest gore and game plan for davis and come out against the rams and open the f**k up
Oct 31, 2012 at 2:55 PM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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another thing to add..
- getting our backs that do block and release to turn more quickly and make themselves available. There was a 2nd quarter sack that occurred due to Gore taking much too long in getting himself available for Alex on a 5 man rush. I remember this happening in other games (we're talking like once or twice per game). We can clean this up.
- and as a cousin to the above, we are still not seeing clear hot routes to a WR/TE when the pressure comes. Still need work in having that quick hitter for Alex to beat a heavy rush. Not saying we never have one... but we can do better to combat such heavy rushes.
- getting our backs that do block and release to turn more quickly and make themselves available. There was a 2nd quarter sack that occurred due to Gore taking much too long in getting himself available for Alex on a 5 man rush. I remember this happening in other games (we're talking like once or twice per game). We can clean this up.
- and as a cousin to the above, we are still not seeing clear hot routes to a WR/TE when the pressure comes. Still need work in having that quick hitter for Alex to beat a heavy rush. Not saying we never have one... but we can do better to combat such heavy rushes.
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:01 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
another thing to add..
- getting our backs that do block and release to turn more quickly and make themselves available. There was a 2nd quarter sack that occurred due to Gore taking much too long in getting himself available for Alex on a 5 man rush. I remember this happening in other games (we're talking like once or twice per game). We can clean this up.
- and as a cousin to the above, we are still not seeing clear hot routes to a WR/TE when the pressure comes. Still need work in having that quick hitter for Alex to beat a heavy rush. Not saying we never have one... but we can do better to combat such heavy rushes.
many qbs when faced with pressure just throw to a rbs back/feet/area..alex has to start doing more of that instead of just taking a sack every time.
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:27 PM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
another thing to add..
- getting our backs that do block and release to turn more quickly and make themselves available. There was a 2nd quarter sack that occurred due to Gore taking much too long in getting himself available for Alex on a 5 man rush. I remember this happening in other games (we're talking like once or twice per game). We can clean this up.
- and as a cousin to the above, we are still not seeing clear hot routes to a WR/TE when the pressure comes. Still need work in having that quick hitter for Alex to beat a heavy rush. Not saying we never have one... but we can do better to combat such heavy rushes.
many qbs when faced with pressure just throw to a rbs back/feet/area..alex has to start doing more of that instead of just taking a sack every time.
Well, the ones that spring to mind for me involve the RB working his way through traffic to turn and face the QB. In these instances, to throw at their feet would involve throwing it into the OL/DL battle occurring in between the QB and RB... and that's not exactly gonna work.
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:29 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:
another thing to add..
- getting our backs that do block and release to turn more quickly and make themselves available. There was a 2nd quarter sack that occurred due to Gore taking much too long in getting himself available for Alex on a 5 man rush. I remember this happening in other games (we're talking like once or twice per game). We can clean this up.
- and as a cousin to the above, we are still not seeing clear hot routes to a WR/TE when the pressure comes. Still need work in having that quick hitter for Alex to beat a heavy rush. Not saying we never have one... but we can do better to combat such heavy rushes.
many qbs when faced with pressure just throw to a rbs back/feet/area..alex has to start doing more of that instead of just taking a sack every time.
Well, the ones that spring to mind for me involve the RB working his way through traffic to turn and face the QB. In these instances, to throw at their feet would involve throwing it into the OL/DL battle occurring in between the QB and RB... and that's not exactly gonna work.
no i'm talking about throwing in the flat or to the sidelines..over the middle is obviously a bad idea
and whether it's to a rb/te/wr it doesn't matter
[ Edited by DonnieDarko on Oct 31, 2012 at 3:30 PM ]
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:31 PM
- Schulzy
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Definitely find ways to get Moss more involved. That's the biggest one. It seems like the only times they take a shot deep with him are when they are in a 2TE/2RB set and then send him deep on play action. They can definitely be more creative. I think getting the deep game going is the biggest key for us going deep in the playoffs.
As for the others: The sacks are mostly a result of Smith holding onto the ball for too long. Vernon has been spending a lot of time helping in pass protection - I'm confident that when the games really matter, he'll be huge for us. And I think getting Randy more involved deep will open more things up for Vernon.
I'd also like to keep finding more creative ways to get pressure. We haven't been as effective this year when it comes to getting home with 4. And since our secondary has been so good this year, we don't have to worry about getting burned when sending 5-6 guys.
As for the others: The sacks are mostly a result of Smith holding onto the ball for too long. Vernon has been spending a lot of time helping in pass protection - I'm confident that when the games really matter, he'll be huge for us. And I think getting Randy more involved deep will open more things up for Vernon.
I'd also like to keep finding more creative ways to get pressure. We haven't been as effective this year when it comes to getting home with 4. And since our secondary has been so good this year, we don't have to worry about getting burned when sending 5-6 guys.
[ Edited by Schulzy on Oct 31, 2012 at 3:32 PM ]
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:32 PM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
no i'm talking about throwing in the flat or to the sidelines..over the middle is obviously a bad idea
Right. It is the ones over the middle that I was talking about. What are known as STAB or STOP routes.
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:36 PM
- 49erfeeeever808
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Oct 31, 2012 at 3:37 PM
- WRATHman44
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Since they are off for the whole week, I vote that they work on their Margarita recipe.
Coaches can work on the screen pass, on O and D
Coaches can work on the screen pass, on O and D
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:45 PM
- buck
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eliminating stupid penalties.
Oct 31, 2012 at 3:49 PM
- 49rz4Life
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Stop that screen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 31, 2012 at 4:10 PM
- insanemike27
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Originally posted by SofaKing:I voted to get Vernon more involved in the offense. It's a crime to only target him 2-3 times a game. We're having trouble getting him open. I'd like to see us split him out wide, maybe even in the slot, just to show a different look. Run a couple TE screens his way so we can get him into the flow of the game.
Not only for screens but he could get underneath the coverage. He can block on the outside for those pitches that the like to run.
Oct 31, 2012 at 4:42 PM
- sincalfaithful
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MORE MOSS
Oct 31, 2012 at 4:58 PM
- DonnieDarko
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Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
MORE MOSS
AND MORE COWBELL
Oct 31, 2012 at 5:30 PM
- LifelongNiner
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1. Get Randy Moss more involved in the passing game. This helps everyone on offense. More room to run for the backs, more space between themselves and defenders on short passes. One on one coverage for the other receivers. And defenses having to pick their poison. This offense has a chance to be truly dynamic and I'd like to see we can do if the passing game can come close to matching the running game. Not necessarily in terms of yardage, but in big plays and TDs.
2. More discipline/less penalties- So many penalties at bad times have killed momentum.
3. More pressure on the opposing QB- More blitzing from different positions all over the field.
4. ST coverage- shore up our coverage on special teams. We haven't been gashed lately, but returners were picking up chunks of yardage early on in the season.
5. QB play- more runs by Alex Smith. He can also help out his line more by getting rid of the ball. I understand a sack is the lesser of two evils (as opposed to an INT), but most of the sacks are unnecessary.
6. More blowouts- I would like to see some of the other D-Line guys get in and get significant playing time so we can get an idea of what we have. Does Ian Williams have a future as the primary backup at NT? Also, I'd like to actually see Tufuaku play at DE this season.
This isn't really something to work on, but I'd like to see us get a win against one of the better teams when they are playing well. The Chicago and New England games will be excellent opportunities. The Seattle game will be big also, simply because it is in Seattle.
2. More discipline/less penalties- So many penalties at bad times have killed momentum.
3. More pressure on the opposing QB- More blitzing from different positions all over the field.
4. ST coverage- shore up our coverage on special teams. We haven't been gashed lately, but returners were picking up chunks of yardage early on in the season.
5. QB play- more runs by Alex Smith. He can also help out his line more by getting rid of the ball. I understand a sack is the lesser of two evils (as opposed to an INT), but most of the sacks are unnecessary.
6. More blowouts- I would like to see some of the other D-Line guys get in and get significant playing time so we can get an idea of what we have. Does Ian Williams have a future as the primary backup at NT? Also, I'd like to actually see Tufuaku play at DE this season.
This isn't really something to work on, but I'd like to see us get a win against one of the better teams when they are playing well. The Chicago and New England games will be excellent opportunities. The Seattle game will be big also, simply because it is in Seattle.