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Greg Roman, is he really good?

Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Next game is on his shoulders

we know the defense can stop the seahawks offense
it's been our offense that has cost us these games.

if he reverts fire him.


I think it's way past time for this, but if the 49ers offense can't get anything going, he truly needs to go. After watching the 49ers struggle against the Saints, I saw the Seahawks tear up a Saints defense by attacking their weaknesses, the same weaknesses that the Saints possessed when the 49ers played, Seattle did so with damn near surgical precision and you saw how many guys ended up completely wide open as a result of the scheme that they were running.
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Next game is on his shoulders

we know the defense can stop the seahawks offense
it's been our offense that has cost us these games.

if he reverts fire him.

I would want this to happen, but I know it wouldn't. Only way we can get rid of him is if he gets hired for one of the HC positions available next year.
[ Edited by NeonNiner on Dec 2, 2013 at 9:30 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think it's way past time for this, but if the 49ers offense can't get anything going, he truly needs to go. After watching the 49ers struggle against the Saints, I saw the Seahawks tear up a Saints defense by attacking their weaknesses, the same weaknesses that the Saints possessed when the 49ers played, Seattle did so with damn near surgical precision and you saw how many guys ended up completely wide open as a result of the scheme that they were running.

I think this sums up the Niners' offensive problems quite well. Seattle has to have a nice scheme and exploit the opposing defense because quite frankly, they don't have any superstar receivers. Tate is likely a number 2 on most other teams (on some even a 3) and outside of him, they're running with a bunch of 3 and 4 type receivers. Yet they still manage to find ways to make big plays happen. They find ways to move the ball. Wilson is playing at a high level right now and I don't think that is in doubt. But not only does he study tape, he's being put in a position by his coaching staff to be successful. They know what they have in him, and the best way to use him in conjunction with the offense they run.

The Niners with Roman seem wholly content on trying to win on pure talent. Run a vanilla scheme and let the superior players win on talent alone. That works extremely well against inferior competition. But when you're playing the top teams it becomes a huge liability. The talent is now essentially equal and you must win through solid play calling, great execution and smart decision making.
All is forgiven if we end the season with a 6th lombardi. But for now, his ass is on the line.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think it's way past time for this, but if the 49ers offense can't get anything going, he truly needs to go. After watching the 49ers struggle against the Saints, I saw the Seahawks tear up a Saints defense by attacking their weaknesses, the same weaknesses that the Saints possessed when the 49ers played, Seattle did so with damn near surgical precision and you saw how many guys ended up completely wide open as a result of the scheme that they were running.

yup it was as simple as spread it out and play action pass. call quick throws like seattle was doing all night, not 7 step drops.

lynch didn't even do anything against the saints. ryan loaded the box and roman refused to attack.


if we attack against carolina and against the saint's we're 10-2 right now.

if we continue to run the ball against the colts we're 11-1 right now.

he cannot cost us another game. not another.
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
I think this sums up the Niners' offensive problems quite well. Seattle has to have a nice scheme and exploit the opposing defense because quite frankly, they don't have any superstar receivers. Tate is likely a number 2 on most other teams (on some even a 3) and outside of him, they're running with a bunch of 3 and 4 type receivers. Yet they still manage to find ways to make big plays happen. They find ways to move the ball. Wilson is playing at a high level right now and I don't think that is in doubt. But not only does he study tape, he's being put in a position by his coaching staff to be successful. They know what they have in him, and the best way to use him in conjunction with the offense they run.

The Niners with Roman seem wholly content on trying to win on pure talent. Run a vanilla scheme and let the superior players win on talent alone. That works extremely well against inferior competition. But when you're playing the top teams it becomes a huge liability. The talent is now essentially equal and you must win through solid play calling, great execution and smart decision making.

the difference between offenses is 1 coordinator attacks all the damn time. so what if it works or if it doesn't

and the other is a wuss. (roman) he pulls out all the stops against bad teams and then tightens his sphincter against good teams

he has to be aggressive he has to attack down the field intermediate run with power move the pocket.. ALL OF THAT in order for the team to be as good as it should be... im not talking about next game im talking about going forward for the rest of the year and his tenure with the 49ers
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Originally posted by LVJay:
Donut

twinkie?
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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Donut

twinkie?

Yes, definitely! But his specialty is pizza
Originally posted by gold49digger:
All is forgiven if we end the season with a 6th lombardi. But for now, his ass is on the line.

Could have had the 6th Lombardi in our trophy case if Roman didn't go full retard with the play calling when we were 5 yards away from the championship. His ass should've already been on the line then.
[ Edited by NeonNiner on Dec 2, 2013 at 9:53 PM ]
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
Could have had the 6th Lombardi in our trophy case if Roman didn't go full retard with the play calling when we were 5 yards away from the championship. His ass should've already been on the line then.

we shouldn't even be caring about this season. it should be icing trying to go for a repeat
NinerGM, sorry, my quote button doesn't work. But I totally agree with you on all accounts! Well stated on your post #1346. The OC in Seattle is light-years ahead of Roman. He essentially attacked the Saints exactly how I would have liked us to do. We had the talent to not make that game close but we did and it ended up costing us; just like the Panthers game and even Indy. Even in Seattle, we were there until the defense finally wore down. Hell, Seattle even completed a long pass to Ricardo Lockette. Enough said...THAT is spreading the ball around.
[ Edited by NCommand on Dec 3, 2013 at 6:50 AM ]
This Roman Greg I believe can and might cost the 49ers a return trip to the Super Bowl, he's that BAD. No creativity for the passing game, howcome Seattle's NO NAME wrs and 5'10 QB are constantly making all the plays in the passing game and our 6'5 QB along with stud VD and STUDD QUAN get held back by this pie eating contest winner??
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think it's way past time for this, but if the 49ers offense can't get anything going, he truly needs to go. After watching the 49ers struggle against the Saints, I saw the Seahawks tear up a Saints defense by attacking their weaknesses, the same weaknesses that the Saints possessed when the 49ers played, Seattle did so with damn near surgical precision and you saw how many guys ended up completely wide open as a result of the scheme that they were running.

Sadly, I believe this is correct. Hate to blame it on one guy (or two) but there are only two things on this team, offense or defense, that seem lacking--WR development/effectiveness and offensive passing scheme...and of course they are related. The only other philosophical difference I have is the tepid Fangio defense when the team has the lead, but at least there is a body of work showing it to be somewhat effective.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Dec 3, 2013 at 7:14 AM ]