Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by Allx9er:
The D is not not the problem this year. They've done everything possible to help this team win.
They still aren't read option dependent. To be able get to championship moments with 2 different qbs one of whom hasnt even started 2 full seasons and the other who had his own limitations is pretty good.
Am I happy with the development of this offense as a whole from play calling to personnel packages from injuries and infusion of rookies/2nd year players? No!
Imho a part of the problem is that the play calling hasn't changed. The lack of development/envolvemt of some younger players as well as the huge injury to crabs has retarded the growth of this offense as a whole. From building a function unit/philosophy to tweaking it as needed on the fly.
If it was that easy for teams to be successful running any old 3 wr's out there and be successful then everybody would do it. Kinda of an exaggeration just say you run short, you run medium and you run long.
With its current personnel and with he addition of crabs hopefully we an see improvement for the last games its a stretch to say best.
everybody does do trot 3 wr's out there and that's why everybody passes for more yards than us every game....lol
look at the top passing teams look at the saints we played. they weren't running complex routes on us. he just had multiple options pretty much the same every down. somebody is stretching the field someone is underneath and somebody is check down. and if more go out then he has another option.. but that's the constant. he was taking the check down majority of the game and hit on a couple of the people who ran long. but it was the same...
look at the packers system. tolzien is throwing for 300 yards to who? how is it that every wr that steps in there seems to be able to get open you mean boldin and manningham and baldwin are all lesser than players the packers wouldn't even be playing if it weren't for injuries?
so because lmj and hunter have 3 catches combined on the year that means that they aren't good at screens or in space?
let's call it what it is.
roman is the one who has regressed to a fetal state. and has taken the offense along with it.
not sure why you mentioned the d ive been championing their cause all around this forum.
its not hard to top about 160/game but relying on 3 wr's isn't the only set that can produce an effective passing attack.
the saints have an established
offensive philosophy that has its HC/offensive guru back at the wheel. besides the return of meachum(sp) i dont they had a whole lot of turnover on that side of the ball, the factors that limited them are not shared by the niners. it doesn't hurt to have a field general and all that he brings to the offense leading the O.
tolzein is experiencing the flynn zone atm and idc what kind of numbers he puts up until he can become a teams no1 qb. once again gb has a vetren offensive unit with an established/successful
passing philosophy that revolves around rogers and his all world ability. we all know how much it helps when the when the qb not only has all the ability but also knows his offense in and out. defenses are much less likely able to confuse a qb who has all the tools and total command of a stable scheme which of course includes the passing game. in gb's case they they can survive the bumps in the road because of the stability of the scheme, and in the short term they can do well with lord tolzein because teams haven't been able to scout him as of yet.
"how is it that every wr that steps in there seems to be able to get open you mean boldin and manningham and baldwin are all lesser than players the packers wouldn't even be playing if it weren't for injuries?"
boldin is a great chain mover but he should not be a no1 wr on any team at this point in his career. rio at his best has never been more then a good no3. as for baldwin, if the chiefs were willing to swap him out for our bust of a pick then he couldnt have been that good in the first place, and imho in the end some teams lean/build their passing game like the niners do their running game (keep in mind im not condoning or condemning this approach im just throwing that idea out there)if thats the case this problem starts with harbaugh especially since the offense is his specialty.
im under the impression that the passing game and all that comes with it derives from geep and morton. how the niners involve the passing attack ultimately falls on those coaches primarily charged with that aspect of the game game plan as well as the HC, sure roman has a hand in the overall incorporation but as i understand it ( and i could be completely wrong) romans main duty is the running game.
asst. coordinators that run a muck normally don't last that long, if they do the HC gets fired. harbaugh aint dumb and im pretty sure his assistants aren't crafting game plans that he isn't 100% aware of. hell, he's the last person kaep hears in the mike, harbaugh shares some blame.
there are a lot of us laying the blame at his feet alone, at moments including myself. but this isnt all his fault.
you brought up the d "the problem we had at the end of the season last year was the defense" post#1127.