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Greg Roman, is he really good?

Originally posted by denali22:


watching other teams pretty much opens up a whole new world of football to us niner fans. the possibilities are endless.

kind of lends itself to the truth right?

that it isn't kap it's roman.

kap is the only one of the young qb's who is being over coached and restricted not allowed to be himself and just make plays.

the only one.
Originally posted by cciowa:
even the most extreme roman bathwater drinkers have got to be saying,, "how come we can not do that"

cause greg roman is why

like i have been saying since the 1st loss.
we sit here and watch the panthers use all of their players who are lesser than oursand our coordinator feels we shouldn't use all of our players just 3 consistently and that's boldin davis and miller... not gore because clearly he forgets he has him in every single game he decides he wants us to lose.

the personnel we have and the production we get is unacceptable. the lazy will lay it at kap's feet but he is the only qb not given all of the options to succeed the only one who is not allowed to just go out have options and make plays and the only one who is struggling mightily because of it

anyone can see it who is being objective.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
What's Pat Shurmur doing?

Eagles. :( Was hoping we'd of won the Superbowl so Roman would get a job elsewhere, and we'd be able to nab him. He's one of the brightest young minds in football today, and knows how to take care of a young QB (proved it during his stint with Bradford, and now Foles).
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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by cciowa:
even the most extreme roman bathwater drinkers have got to be saying,, "how come we can not do that"

cause greg roman is why

like i have been saying since the 1st loss.
we sit here and watch the panthers use all of their players who are lesser than oursand our coordinator feels we shouldn't use all of our players just 3 consistently and that's boldin davis and miller... not gore because clearly he forgets he has him in every single game he decides he wants us to lose.

the personnel we have and the production we get is unacceptable. the lazy will lay it at kap's feet but he is the only qb not given all of the options to succeed the only one who is not allowed to just go out have options and make plays and the only one who is struggling mightily because of it

anyone can see it who is being objective.
if you want to get technical about it, i was all for firing him after the two rams games last year,, that is when i saw this guy is seriously over valued by the web zone, the super bowl cinched in my opinion and well we see what has happened in our losses this year.. and of course JH is a f**king enabler because he lets it happen
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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
cause greg roman is why

like i have been saying since the 1st loss.
we sit here and watch the panthers use all of their players who are lesser than oursand our coordinator feels we shouldn't use all of our players just 3 consistently and that's boldin davis and miller... not gore because clearly he forgets he has him in every single game he decides he wants us to lose.

the personnel we have and the production we get is unacceptable. the lazy will lay it at kap's feet but he is the only qb not given all of the options to succeed the only one who is not allowed to just go out have options and make plays and the only one who is struggling mightily because of it

anyone can see it who is being objective.
you are wise my son, beyond your number of posts and number of little red boxes you have filled up
Originally posted by cciowa:
if you want to get technical about it, i was all for firing him after the two rams games last year,, that is when i saw this guy is seriously over valued by the web zone, the super bowl cinched in my opinion and well we see what has happened in our losses this year.. and of course JH is a f**king enabler because he lets it happen

the same problems rear their heads and people just shift the blame from qb to qb.

what did they say about alex?
he only throws it to vd or checks down never looks for anyone else
can't throw deep
has horrible time management and we burn timeouts

what are they saying about kap?
he only throws to vd or boldin never looks for anyone else
isn't accurate
has horrible time management and we burn timeouts

at what point are they going to make the connection that it isn't the qb its the coordinator.

have people questioning Kap's intelligence and not the coordinator who can't get gore hunter james boldin baldwin manningham davis and macdonald involved

any coordinator worth anything could make that offense hum like a machine and probably produce one of the most potent offenses in the nfl right?

not this guy though
and apparently its all because of kap
and not because of the coach who is controlling every single movement he makes.
couldn't play wide receiver for us lol
Well, Ted Ginn just caught a probable game winning TD with 58 seconds left! Lol
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the same things that caused us to lose games keeps happening and they never get better. they are not bumps in the road, its a f**king pattern that goes back to last year. as you said, it did not matter who the qb was, we still have issues with the same things. that tells me the coaches are either unable or unwilling or are just f**king stupid and can not fix it. all roads lead to roman and they have for quite some time. it just gets a band aid put on it when we play a bad team, i assume if we win monday, everyone will say"roman got his head out of his ass finally, now we are going to make the push and NO ONE wants us". ugh. you know he will f**k it up vs seattle and quite possible vs the cards at the end of the season, if that game means something and if the cards have a winning record at that time. he s**ts the bed at crunch time in big games, second and goal from the five in the super bowl and he s**ts the bed in games vs winning teams, note all of our losses this year.
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Originally posted by Olejohnnyboy:
Well, Ted Ginn just caught a probable game winning TD with 58 seconds left! Lol
poetic justice,, i halfway thought williams was going to take one back last night to win the game,,, i am glad we got rid of kyle but its not good that we are seeing some of these guys we got rid of do well with another team. another shovel on romans heap in my opinion
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by cciowa:
if you want to get technical about it, i was all for firing him after the two rams games last year,, that is when i saw this guy is seriously over valued by the web zone, the super bowl cinched in my opinion and well we see what has happened in our losses this year.. and of course JH is a f**king enabler because he lets it happen

the same problems rear their heads and people just shift the blame from qb to qb.

what did they say about alex?
he only throws it to vd or checks down never looks for anyone else
can't throw deep
has horrible time management and we burn timeouts

what are they saying about kap?
he only throws to vd or boldin never looks for anyone else
isn't accurate
has horrible time management and we burn timeouts

at what point are they going to make the connection that it isn't the qb its the coordinator.

have people questioning Kap's intelligence and not the coordinator who can't get gore hunter james boldin baldwin manningham davis and macdonald involved

any coordinator worth anything could make that offense hum like a machine and probably produce one of the most potent offenses in the nfl right?

not this guy though
and apparently its all because of kap
and not because of the coach who is controlling every single movement he makes.

Don't you get tired of saying the same thing over and over again? Who are you guys trying to convince? Just curious?
Double post
[ Edited by Olejohnnyboy on Nov 18, 2013 at 8:24 PM ]
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Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
What's Pat Shurmur doing?

Eagles. :( Was hoping we'd of won the Superbowl so Roman would get a job elsewhere, and we'd be able to nab him. He's one of the brightest young minds in football today, and knows how to take care of a young QB (proved it during his stint with Bradford, and now Foles).

He has never had an offense ranked better then #25 before this year and i'm pretty sure he isn't calling the plays with the Eagles, but yeah he is totally awesome!
Take away Roman's gimmicks, he's a high school or college level OC trying to operate a professional offense and failing miserably to adapt and adjust in the NFL. He's especially getting exposed this year for what he really is.

I was hoping someone would take him off our hands after this season but any offers he might have gotten next off season should be down the drain; any team that would even consider him for a HC position at this point would be foolish and desperate.

If we're going to get rid of him, Harbaugh has to make that move. And it will be very interesting to see how Harbs handles this. If Harbaugh doesn't fire Roman that tells me that he is just as clueless or that protecting his buddies comes over the team. Either way, not a good look coach. And if we miss the playoffs, that should be Roman's head and at that point, I'm hoping Baalke and Jed intervene.

Just think how much better we would be if we had a real NFL OC that actually is innovative, creative, and would utilize our talent instead of waste it?
[ Edited by NeonNiner on Nov 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM ]
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He's good at tearing up twinkies and donuts!