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The Michael Crabtree Thread

  • DeUh
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Cool stats I saw today.

Crabtree has played a total of 18 games with Kaepernick as the starter since Colin took over as the starter in 2012. In those games he has caught 95 passes for 1,367 yards and 9 touchdowns.

source: ninersnation.com

For comparison Demaryius Thomas and Peyton Mannings first 18 games together: Thomas caught 102 passes for 1,632 Yards and 13 touchdowns.

Both are set to be free agents next year.
[ Edited by DeUh on Jun 2, 2014 at 1:14 PM ]
Very cool. It's also worth noting that Denver hasn't had the run game that we have plus Manning has been doing this his whole career whereas Kaep is kind of learning a new offense.
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz

At this point Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas > Larry Fitzgerald.
Originally posted by DeUh:
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
I'm sure there's a thread somewhere but just for comparison sake, what other big names WRs are free agents after this season? Maybe the market won't be as big as we think it is?
Maybe w/ the salary cap increasing we can afford paying him what he wants?

A few names from the top of my head:

Michael Crabtree
Dez Bryant
Dermaryius Thomas
Hakeem Nicks
Jordy Nelson
Jeremy Maclin
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Torrey Smith
Randall Cobb

Based off that I'd say tier one guys are probably: Crabtree, Dez, Nelson, Cobb at the minimum
How likely is it for all of them to get 10M/year deals?
May very well be possible for us to retain Crab especially if other teams are set on these other big name WRs.
Another possibility is we land one of the above WRs. It's all speculation until after this season

One pattern that this staff has shown is extending a key player during the regular season itself (Bowman in 2011, Brock in 2013). Curious if Crab or anyone else does in 2014...
[ Edited by Mertonschickendance on Jun 2, 2014 at 3:26 PM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Stevie johnson may have been crabtrees replacement.

S. Johnson has butterfingers
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Stevie johnson may have been crabtrees replacement.

S. Johnson has butterfingers

He's going to have broken fingers now
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz

At this point Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas > Larry Fitzgerald.

thats cuz they actually have qbs that can get them the ball..
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz

At this point Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas > Larry Fitzgerald.

josh gordon is pretty f**kin elite too, dude missed games and still ended up on or near the top of the receiving numbers last year. andre johnson is up there too. fitzy is on his way to being just another receiver until arizona gets a real QB or he bolts for another team
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Originally posted by ilikecows699:
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz

I dont see it. Not Crabtree. He may have the potential to be an elite WR but hasn't realized it yet. And our offense has been so run heavy I dont think we really know what his ceiling is yet.
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Originally posted by fly15:
S. Johnson has butterfingers

Better hit the jugs machine.
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
I believe Dez, Crab, and Demaryius are all in the same realm, above average borderline Elite.

Elite: Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitz

At this point Dez Bryant, Demaryius Thomas > Larry Fitzgerald.

thats cuz they actually have qbs that can get them the ball..

They do have better QBs that is true, but they're still better than Fitzgerald regardless of who is quarterbacking for who. They are more explosive. Fitzgerald hasn't had 1000 yards in two years, despite playing in all 16 games. Carson Palmer isn't that terrible. He has not been elite these past two years. Meanwhile both Dez and Thomas have had over 1300 yard seasons and double digit tds the past two years. That's not to say that Fitzgerald can't have a back bounce year though.
Lol at people putting Crabs in the same category as Thomas and Bryant,
I'm a niner fan but I am not crazy.

If we are talking about potential then yes,
If we are talking about production then Crabtree is in the same tier as Danny Amendola
Originally posted by DeUh:
Cool stats I saw today.

Crabtree has played a total of 18 games with Kaepernick as the starter since Colin took over as the starter in 2012. In those games he has caught 95 passes for 1,367 yards and 9 touchdowns.

source: ninersnation.com

For comparison Demaryius Thomas and Peyton Mannings first 18 games together: Thomas caught 102 passes for 1,632 Yards and 13 touchdowns.

Both are set to be free agents next year.


Crabs numbers are far more impressive, when you consider the Broncos throw the ball 500 times a game.
Originally posted by DeUh:
A few names from the top of my head:

Michael Crabtree
Dez Bryant
Dermaryius Thomas
Hakeem Nicks
Jordy Nelson
Jeremy Maclin
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Torrey Smith
Randall Cobb

Dez Bryant has played 4 season totaling
293rec, 4104 yards, and 40tds
On average that is
73, 1026, 10tds PER SEASON

Demariyus Thomas has played 4 seasons totaling
240rec, 3698 yards, and 34 tds
On average that is
60, 924.5, 8.5 PER SEASON

Jordy Nelson past 4 seasons have totaled
247rec, 3904 yards, 32 tds
On average that is
61, 976, 8 per season

Jeremy Maclin's past 4 season have totaled
258 rec, 3453 yards, 26 tds
On average that is
62, 863, 6 per season

Roddy White's past 4 seasons have totaled
370rec, 4747 yards, 28 tds
On average that is
92, 1186, 7 per season

Wes Welker's past 4 seasons have totaled
369 rec, 4549 yards, 32 tds
On average that is
92, 1137, 8 per season

Torrey Smith's past 3 seasons have totaled
168 rec, 2824 yards, 19tds
On average that is
56, 941, 6 per season
^
This year includes his rookie year

Not including Cobb or Nicks because both have external circumstances (short NFL career, injuries)

Now lets look at Crabs

Michael Crabtree past 4 seasons have totaled
245 rec, 3004 yards, and 20 tds
On average that is
61, 751, 5 per season

Out of those listed WR, IMO, I put Crabs at the bottom
Crabtree is not in the same tier as the mentioned players above