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Sep 30, 2012 at 7:48 PM
- pasodoc9er
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OL today, opened up holes some of us could have run thru, plus a number we could have driven our trucks thru. If this isn't one of the OLs finest hours, I would like to see a better one. Last week nothing worked, incl OL. This week virtually everything worked, ESPECIALLY the OL. It was the key to the game, and they were lions of the game out there. D just shut the jets down, and played magnificently. Alex, RBs, TEs, WRs...heck everyone played lites out. Andy had two on the 1 yrd line. Missed a few FGs,but hey, we didn't really need them. Need to get the bad FGS behind us. This team looked just like the one that beat Pack and Lions. They just weren't ready for game 3 plus Vikes were on fire. But overall, give the game ball where it belongs...to the entire OL.
Sep 30, 2012 at 9:36 PM
- tohara3
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
OL today, opened up holes some of us could have run thru, plus a number we could have driven our trucks thru. If this isn't one of the OLs finest hours, I would like to see a better one. Last week nothing worked, incl OL. This week virtually everything worked, ESPECIALLY the OL. It was the key to the game, and they were lions of the game out there. D just shut the jets down, and played magnificently. Alex, RBs, TEs, WRs...heck everyone played lites out. Andy had two on the 1 yrd line. Missed a few FGs,but hey, we didn't really need them. Need to get the bad FGS behind us. This team looked just like the one that beat Pack and Lions. They just weren't ready for game 3 plus Vikes were on fire. But overall, give the game ball where it belongs...to the entire OL.
Great game for the OL. Hope it continues again next week too.
Sep 30, 2012 at 9:43 PM
- BrianGO
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The O-line has been great all year. They are getting better every week. Staley has had some hiccups against the best in the NFL, but that is the only thing to find fault with the O-line this year.
Oct 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM
- LasVegasWally
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I've really been impressed with the whole line including Kilgore.
Boone and Davis have been kicking ass.
The line's big test will be against the Giants and I think we'll do real well.
Boone and Davis have been kicking ass.
The line's big test will be against the Giants and I think we'll do real well.
Oct 1, 2012 at 10:47 AM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by BrianGO:am still whining a bit about pass protection but i will try to be more positive and objective. you guys are seeing things different than I so maybe i need to rethink here.
The O-line has been great all year. They are getting better every week. Staley has had some hiccups against the best in the NFL, but that is the only thing to find fault with the O-line this year.
Oct 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM
- Joecool
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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BrianGO:am still whining a bit about pass protection but i will try to be more positive and objective. you guys are seeing things different than I so maybe i need to rethink here.
The O-line has been great all year. They are getting better every week. Staley has had some hiccups against the best in the NFL, but that is the only thing to find fault with the O-line this year.
There are 23 teams that have allowed 8 or more sacks. I just think pass blocking is much more difficult to do than run block which is why most OL love to run block more than pass block.
It is common to get less than 3 seconds on most throws except for exceptional situations (Brady). You can also say that other teams pass more often but at the same time, they are pass heavy teams that have many, many 1-2 second quite hitting plays in their "spread" type of formations.
Defense are geared to stop the pass which means pressure. I would be surprised if 10 teams get an average of 3 seconds to throw. We are a heavy play action team and rely on rub-routes so that takes time to develop. We have RARELY had issues with quick-hitting pass plays that most teams run but the fact is that we don't run very many quick-hitting pass plays.
However, having said that, our QB also needs to know when to get out or where he can move to because I have seen cushions to his left or right if he senses them.
[ Edited by Joecool on Oct 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM ]
Oct 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM
- Schulzy
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Anthony Davis has been amazing. Our most improved player. Body has finally matured.
Oct 1, 2012 at 10:58 AM
- walker807
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by BrianGO:am still whining a bit about pass protection but i will try to be more positive and objective. you guys are seeing things different than I so maybe i need to rethink here.
The O-line has been great all year. They are getting better every week. Staley has had some hiccups against the best in the NFL, but that is the only thing to find fault with the O-line this year.
There are 23 teams that have allowed 8 or more sacks. I just think pass blocking is much more difficult to do than run block which is why most OL love to run block more than pass block.
It is common to get less than 3 seconds on most throws except for exceptional situations (Brady). You can also say that other teams pass more often but at the same time, they are pass heavy teams that have many, many 1-2 second quite hitting plays in their "spread" type of formations.
Defense are geared to stop the pass which means pressure. I would be surprised if 10 teams get an average of 3 seconds to throw. We are a heavy play action team and rely on rub-routes so that takes time to develop. We have RARELY had issues with quick-hitting pass plays that most teams run but the fact is that we don't run very many quick-hitting pass plays.
However, having said that, our QB also needs to know when to get out or where he can move to because I have seen cushions to his left or right if he senses them.
You gotta remember too that about 1 out of every 3 sacks that Smith takes are because he doesn't force passes. Most QB's we see playing would chuck the ball into tight coverage and hope for the best instead of just talking a sack like Smith does sometimes.
Oct 1, 2012 at 11:02 AM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by walker807:please lets not let joe make this into an alex thing. maybe i was being to harsh on staley before this game? maybe i actually over reacted which is something i yell at other posters for doing. i have become the person i despise
You gotta remember too that about 1 out of every 3 sacks that Smith takes are because he doesn't force passes. Most QB's we see playing would chuck the ball into tight coverage and hope for the best instead of just talking a sack like Smith does sometimes.
Oct 1, 2012 at 12:37 PM
- 228niner
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boon is playing great, glad we have him
Oct 1, 2012 at 4:50 PM
- AUniner
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They've playing really well in parts and dominated for chunks of games, but it sure would be nice to have VD running down the field instead of staying in to block.
I expect Goodwin to be replaced after the season and would be open to finding a new LT. AD, Boone and Mike have all played really well though.
I expect Goodwin to be replaced after the season and would be open to finding a new LT. AD, Boone and Mike have all played really well though.
Oct 1, 2012 at 4:51 PM
- niner4life21
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The right side is solid.
Oct 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM
- pasodoc9er
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Look, no question this was the antithesis of the Vikes game. It looked like everybody was sleepwalking and never took the wake up call. This game coaches had great D and O gameplans. Alex was great, RBs A+, WRs great, D great everywhere including coaching of D plan, TEs played great, and...OL played great. No question this was a team win, players and coaches, but as good as our running game was, the OL had to be dominating the jets DL all nite. I didn't mean to slight anybody or any position, because we dominated the Jets is every which way. Frankly, they were embarrassed and the Ryan said as much. To be embarrassed as badly as this, you had to have played a team that was great everywhere...and we were. I just didn't want to let the OL go unnoticed.