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SanFranFanfrmVa · 2012-08-19T09:20:28-07:00

that we're still not pushing the ball down the field with the passing game? I was hoping with an upgrade in the WR postion that we would start pushing the ball down the field some but it sure does not look that way.

Aug 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM

#91

ninerfan818
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Originally posted by THEB:

Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:00 PM

#92

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Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by THEB:

Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:02 PM

#93

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Originally posted by ninerfan818:
They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

last year he had one of the best passer ratings in football against the blitz (3rd)

he also had i believe 7 TDs against the blitz

i seriously hate it when people overreact to a stupid preseason game

[ Edited by 49ersalldaway126 on Aug 19, 2012 at 5:02 PM ]

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:06 PM

#94

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Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by susweel:
You might get a few more down field passes but don't expect a dramatic increase with an ultra conservative QB. It's just not Alex's game.

and its not the west coast way

This isnt walsh's wco.

I recall luck throwing it down at stanford

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:06 PM

#95

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Originally posted by 49ersalldaway126:
last year he had one of the best passer ratings in football against the blitz (3rd)

he also had i believe 7 TDs against the blitz

i seriously hate it when people overreact to a stupid preseason game

Yeah, but he doesn't chuck it deep to his awesome weapons of Crabsnail, Swain, and Hastings!

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM

#96

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Originally posted by toeshawn:
This isnt walsh's wco.

I recall luck throwing it down at stanford

Stanford does run a pro system that does not ask Luck to throw deep often, preferring more of a West Coast attack.

although that is from a blacherreport site

but also http://www.sfexaminer.com/sports/nfl/2012/03/luck-silences-doubts-about-throwing-arm-strength-pro-day-drills?category=56

people doubted his arm strength before his proday because he didnt throw it deep much

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:21 PM

#97

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I didn't mean he did it all the time, just that I've seen him do it

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by THEB:
you have to game plan for that type of situation. you cant just pick up a blitz without ever seeing film on them. our QB performed just fine. It was the Offenseive line that did poorly, and rightfully so. They didnt game plan for this game at all, period.

Stop overreacting.

I am not overreacting at all. A QB can battle the blitz himself as well you know. Its not all on the oline. Game plan or no game plan every player is accountable for a large part of their own performance.

[ Edited by DirtyP on Aug 19, 2012 at 5:28 PM ]

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:33 PM

#99

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Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by THEB:

Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

You are so wrong it's scary.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:36 PM

#100

SonocoNinerFan
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Not concerned at all.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM

#101

strickac
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The missed tackles are the only thing concerning me so far.

[ Edited by strickac on Aug 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM ]

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:50 PM

#102

dcsham
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Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by THEB:

Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

Goddam boring 13 wins.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM

#103

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It was a road game, pretty loud, a bit of adversity. We aren't gonna blow teams out left and right all the sudden.

The Texans have a good defense and a much better offense than the Vikings. It was a good test, and the team has some things to work on. We'll be fine.

Aug 19, 2012 at 5:54 PM

#104

ninerfan818
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Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Originally posted by ninerfan818:
Originally posted by THEB:
Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

You are so wrong it's scary.

Forgive my criticism of #11 but do you deem him above average? I'm just sayin. I love the 49ers, always have, always will but the qb position has been below average for about 8 years. Defense has been stout for a while, elite last year but according to most nfl commentators not on the zone seem the qb position the "weakest link"

Aug 19, 2012 at 6:00 PM

#105

NickSh49
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Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by gold49er2183:

Originally posted by ninerfan818:

Originally posted by THEB:

Originally posted by DirtyP:
What led you to this conclusion?

probably the exotic blitz packages they were bringing every single down alex played...

They bring those blitz packages because there is no fear of #11 beating them with their arm. The second Kaep came in, still playing the first string defense the blitzing slowed down. I'm just saying, #11 is one dimensional and that dimension is a 4-5 yard dump off and once in a blue moon something like a seem route. He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold. It sucks to have a QB like that, boring football to watch.

You are so wrong it's scary.

Forgive my criticism of #11 but do you deem him above average? I'm just sayin. I love the 49ers, always have, always will but the qb position has been below average for about 8 years. Defense has been stout for a while, elite last year but according to most nfl commentators not on the zone seem the qb position the "weakest link"

Just cause you say things like this...

"He would rather hit the safe pass underneath than try something bold."

And then I think about all the deep balls he threw to Vernon in the Saints & Giants games last year.

Everyone seems to forget that we lost almost every receiver to injury last year. Crabs, Kyle Williams, and Swain are not going to destroy defenses.