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Watched NFL network yesterday.

It could have been a repeat, but it had Moose Johnson discussing the Niners and their off season. They where comparing Alex Smith to Matt Ryan. Atlanta went out and got speedy receivers and the team suffered because Matt Ryans weakest pass is the long pass, he is better at short to intermediate like AS is.

Perhaps Haubaugh and Baalke are building the team for the future and around Colin kaepernick?? If the team can have multiple speed threats,

WR- AJ Jenkins, Moss,
TE- VD
RB Lemichael James
QB CK

The defensive coordinators would have to commit 3 db's to the deep pass opening up running and passing lanes underneath. With CK's running ability the defensive coordinators probably would have to also assing a spy who follows CK just in case he take off running. This will only help with the playmakers in VD and hopefully Lemichael James.

This is all speculation, but it just hit me that this draft was designed to build around CK more than AS. Could be wrong and often I am, but that is my belief.
I've seen that segment. That comment really has to be put into context. It goes back to the debate about throwing it deep. The percentage goes way down as they throw long passes. The distance and the timing involved plus the coverages make the deep throw a very low percentage to connect. This is with almost all qb, not just Smith.

What most teams do is to throw medium passes and have big fast receivers run it in the rest of the way. Better percentage of connection.
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.

but training camp hasnt even started yet, so how do you know he has miles of work to do when he been training this off season. if anything i read that he is actually in better position to become a #2 qb than josh johnson.
[ Edited by Rocket4989 on Jul 18, 2012 at 9:59 AM ]
Originally posted by Rocket4989:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.

but training camp hasnt even started yet, so how do you know he has miles of work to do when he been training this off season. if anything i read that he is actually in better position to become a #2 qb than josh johnson.

Going off last seasons spot duty/offseason articles. Doesnt show anticipation nor accuracy. Not questioning the arm talent though.

Just because we're acquiring talent and speed doesnt mean Alex cant handle it. I trust the coaches to put Alex and the rest of the team in the right position.
The moves made were not made for one particular QB or another. They were made because we needed better quality and depth at WR to help whoever was under center. Moss was the low risk, high reward guy with size and speed to stretch defenses. Jenkins was the twitch guy that can get quick separation and still has the vertical threat. Manningham, another vet that provides all the more quality depth that we lacked last season. We have guys that can catch underneath... guys that can stretch defenses with speed... we simply have better weapons than we did before. Any QB under center now has a better chance to produce.

( that's the plan, anyway )
Ck is the future but we have smith for now.

I think the moves were meant to improve the roster regardless of who is taking snaps.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ck is the future but we have smith for now.

I think the moves were meant to improve the roster regardless of who is taking snaps.

Agreed! The NFCCG proved that when your only speed WR (Ginn - who CB's gave huge cushions to) was not on the field, it was relatively easy to lock down Crabtree at the LOS and focus on VD (still beat them for 2 TD's) and really, just stack the box, play down hill and run blitz all day to stop Gore en route to pressuring Alex. It was a very simple game plan that has worked against us for years and years and years now!

I think the FO saw this problem and went out and got THREE speed guys with playmaking ability and who are also very quick off the LOS. This will benefit Crabtree even more underneath as well as Williams.

I don't think this move had anything to do with CK rather than help to make our offense less one-dimensional and give our QB options at the snap or while he's running for his life (e.g. LMJ/Hunter, etc.)
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ck is the future but we have smith for now.

I think the moves were meant to improve the roster regardless of who is taking snaps.

/thread
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.

Lol Kaepernick hasn't been given a chance to show enough for you to come to the conclusion that he's not ready to be a backup.
Colin is the worst deep ball passer on the team. The moves were to benefit the team overall in terms of balance, not to cater to CK. I think the idea is more just to have the threat of the deep ball. What I think we're going for more is to get someone that can turn a five yard pass into an 80 yard touchdown. With that speed and ability, the defense is left guessing whether it's a short or long route and has less time to recover than with a possession receiver. When you have speed, you have to respect that instead of a slant, it could be a "slant and go" .. guess wrong, and you're burned.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Jul 18, 2012 at 10:50 AM ]
Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.

Lol Kaepernick hasn't been given a chance to show enough for you to come to the conclusion that he's not ready to be a backup.

Based on my assessment of him out of college...his limited play in the preseason/reg season...and articles...yes I can.
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Based on my assessment of him out of college...his limited play in the preseason/reg season...and articles...yes I can.

Well Harbaugh thought his college play warranted a 2nd round pick and the primary backup role LAST year. Lol regular season play? So you are saying that you can analyze a player with 5 regular season snaps and a bunch of articles you read that were written by people who know nothing about Kaepernick? Cool bro.
last i checked doesnt Alex play well from the spread.
moose is a cowboy so therefore he can GFHS
Originally posted by Kronos2560:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Ck is the future but we have smith for now.

I think the moves were meant to improve the roster regardless of who is taking snaps.

/thread

this ^^^ thread over