Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by KegBert:I don't know how drunk he was maybe he was blackout drunk, maybe he wasn't, either way it doesn't make what he did ok. I was just simply pointing out that if you are to the point where you are black out drunk you really don't know what your doing and have no control over your actions. Again not saying its an excuse for what he did, simply that's its very possible he was not aware of it at the time because he was so intoxicated. From your post it sounds like you have been in this state so I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about.
First of all, it's just alcohol. It's not LSD or PCP. No matter how drunk you are, you don't think you can fly, or think giant spiders are chasing you. Unless you are taking hard narcotics, you can still understand the world around you. If you drink and don't stop, you will either pass out, puke, and / or suffer brain damage or die from alcohol poisoning. As long as there is no brain damage, the brain works just fine, it just has less oxygen. Lack of oxygen to the brain does not cause you to lose control over your actions. You know if you are being violent or assaulting someone, etc., you just care less about the consequences of your actions.
"I hit him because I was drunk" -- b******t. You hit him because you didn't care about the consequences of your actions.
Second, if Brooks was anywhere near, as you say, "black out" drunk, he wouldn't have been able to stand up on his own, much less hit a target three times with a beer bottle.
LSD? PCP? I never mentioned those once in my post, nor did I ever claim that alcohol was a hallucinogen so I really don't know why you bring that up.
To the rest of your post, for the most part, it is completely incorrect but since you seem unwilling to take my word for It Ill provide some links.
You say alcohol doesn't make you lose control of your actions. Not true.
A Blacked-Out Person: A Scary Reality
People in a blackout do not forget what happened, as widely believed. The truth is, they will never remember, because alcohol blocked their ability to form memory. People who are blacked out can remember things from their distant past, but because they cannot form short-term memory, they can't remember anything that happened a minute ago. Without short-term memory formation, they CANNOT:
- form intent
- consider consequences
- make a decision
You then contend that if Brooks was black out drunk that he would not have been able to stand or have the ability to hit someone with a beer bottle. Again, simply not true.
In simpler terms, the effect is similar to anterograde amnesia in that the brain temporarily loses the ability to create new memories. Blackout sufferers still may be able to partake in spirited discussions or send late-night emails to former employers. What they won't be able to do is create memories of any of it. And of course, there's a dark side to all this. Blackouts tend to indicate a high level of intoxication, during which time drinkers don't exhibit their best judgment, raising the risk of dangerous behavior such as having unprotected sex or driving a car.
[ Edited by KegBert on Jul 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM ]