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Will Kaepernick become like Brian Brohm??

Will Kaepernick become like Brian Brohm??

Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by fly15:
how do u know he was a project..?
I bet that if we had drafted Dalton with the same pick (I know he was not available) u would probably be saying the same thing about him, and we all know he's not.

Reasons Alex Smith was a "project":

--Played in a small conference (MWC)
--Played in a "gimmick" offense, may lack mechanics to run a pro system (Urban Meyer's spread option)... Alex Smith footwork 2005....
--Stats are inflated due to system.

Kapernick....

--Played in a small conference (WAC)
--Played in a gimmick offense (Nevada's pistol), mechanics.....
--Stats are inflated due to system (more so rushing in CK's case)



What's so hard for you to comprehend? It is a very clear statement. You think Colin is better qualified to start than Smith? And no Dalton was not a project, plus the Bengals had no better option than to start him, but Dalton at this point in his career is a better qb than Colin.
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
you forgot to add Mike McCarthy and Norv Turner, they're horrible O.C


If they hadn't spent their time polishing their resumes...
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by fly15:
how do u know he was a project..?
I bet that if we had drafted Dalton with the same pick (I know he was not available) u would probably be saying the same thing about him, and we all know he's not.

Reasons Alex Smith was a "project":

--Played in a small conference (MWC)
--Played in a "gimmick" offense, may lack mechanics to run a pro system (Urban Meyer's spread option)... Alex Smith footwork 2005....
--Stats are inflated due to system.

Kapernick....

--Played in a small conference (WAC)
--Played in a gimmick offense (Nevada's pistol), mechanics.....
--Stats are inflated due to system (more so rushing in CK's case)



What's so hard for you to comprehend? It is a very clear statement. You think Colin is better qualified to start than Smith? And no Dalton was not a project, plus the Bengals had no better option than to start him, but Dalton at this point in his career is a better qb than Colin.

Yep. Dalton was one of the more pro-ready QBs in that draft. Kaepernick had the tools, but he needed a lot of work and development. CK is coming along, I'm hoping we will be pleasantly surprised come pre-season.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
you forgot to add Mike McCarthy and Norv Turner, they're horrible O.C


If they hadn't spent their time polishing their resumes...

Two very different offenses, back to back, in the first two seasons. I know I'm dumbfounded the QB couldn't succeed.
Not to mention the future HOF HC Nolan. He sure had it together, and knew how to develop prospects.
Smith is our QB. Keep crying kids.
He'll be fine. He looked fine last preseason, so a few rough practices doesn't worry me much. He has the talent to play in the league, so I'm comfortable that Harbaugh can get him ready to get on the field. Smith signed his deal, so it buys Kaep/Tolzien/JJ atleast another year. I'm not worried. I think any of our backups could run our offense. It's very conservative and QB-friendly.
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Give him 7 years! He will be great
Originally posted by strickac:
He'll be fine. He looked fine last preseason, so a few rough practices doesn't worry me much. He has the talent to play in the league, so I'm comfortable that Harbaugh can get him ready to get on the field. Smith signed his deal, so it buys Kaep/Tolzien/JJ atleast another year. I'm not worried. I think any of our backups could run our offense. It's very conservative and QB-friendly.

I think for the most part that's true. The disconcerting part is none of these guys have extensive experience playing under center from which most of the offensive, west coast plays come out of. Alex Smith had his knocks trying to play under center and drop backs early on, but he has been very good for the last 3-4 years. They may have to limit some of the plays called because of the lack of experience for the backups. I just don't see the offense being run smoothly like it would be with Smith. Not at this point. Maybe 2013 for the backups.

I'm waiting for some people to put a knock on Kaep for not being able to play under center like they did with Alex Smith.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Jun 19, 2012 at 7:19 AM ]
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I think for the most part that's true. The disconcerting part is none of these guys have extensive experience playing under center from which most of the offensive, west coast plays come out of. Alex Smith had his knocks trying to play under center and drop backs early on, but he has been very good for the last 3-4 years. They may have to limit some of the plays called because of the lack of experience for the backups. I just don't see the offense being run smoothly like it would be with Smith. Not at this point. Maybe 2013 for the backups.

I'm waiting for some people to put a knock on Kaep for not being able to play under center like they did with Alex Smith.


Can't criticize what you don't see?! During preseason I would hope all QBs play lights out and then many on here will be calling for their favorite to start! I'll continue to leave it up to Harbaugh. Love having talent at the position as opposed number of years when rejects were brought in to compete with Smith.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Can't criticize what you don't see?! During preseason I would hope all QBs play lights out and then many on here will be calling for their favorite to start! I'll continue to leave it up to Harbaugh. Love having talent at the position as opposed number of years when rejects were brought in to compete with Smith.

I thought that was just the coaches' way of catering to Smith's #1 pick status...


Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Can't criticize what you don't see?! During preseason I would hope all QBs play lights out and then many on here will be calling for their favorite to start! I'll continue to leave it up to Harbaugh. Love having talent at the position as opposed number of years when rejects were brought in to compete with Smith.

I thought that was just the coaches' way of catering to Smith's #1 pick status...




Aw! I forgot! Dangit!
When Nolan and Martz brought in JTO in 2008... that was when ... whatever status meant something for Alex... went out the window. From that 2nd surgery on, Alex was not and should not have been linked to being that # 1 overall pick anymore.

Very much looking forward to seeing the backup QBs in TC and preseason... wish I could be put in a coma for the next 30 days!

(some of you would sure sign up to help me with that wish, lolz)
WAY too early to Brohm.

I have had this feeling Tolzein is going to be a VERY good QB.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
When Nolan and Martz brought in JTO in 2008... that was when ... whatever status meant something for Alex... went out the window. From that 2nd surgery on, Alex was not and should not have been linked to being that # 1 overall pick anymore.

Very much looking forward to seeing the backup QBs in TC and preseason... wish I could be put in a coma for the next 30 days!

(some of you would sure sign up to help me with that wish, lolz)

Putting you in a coma is really easy. It's usually the waking up that's a bit tricky. Sometime never... Don't want you to miss the 2012 SB season there.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Putting you in a coma is really easy. It's usually the waking up that's a bit tricky. Sometime never... Don't want you to miss the 2012 SB season there.

Personal attack ! Personal attack !!! Aaaahhhh, he threatened my life !!!

( haha, just kidding )

Yeah, missing this upcoming season is not an option.
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by strickac:
He'll be fine. He looked fine last preseason, so a few rough practices doesn't worry me much. He has the talent to play in the league, so I'm comfortable that Harbaugh can get him ready to get on the field. Smith signed his deal, so it buys Kaep/Tolzien/JJ atleast another year. I'm not worried. I think any of our backups could run our offense. It's very conservative and QB-friendly.

I think for the most part that's true. The disconcerting part is none of these guys have extensive experience playing under center from which most of the offensive, west coast plays come out of. Alex Smith had his knocks trying to play under center and drop backs early on, but he has been very good for the last 3-4 years. They may have to limit some of the plays called because of the lack of experience for the backups. I just don't see the offense being run smoothly like it would be with Smith. Not at this point. Maybe 2013 for the backups.

I'm waiting for some people to put a knock on Kaep for not being able to play under center like they did with Alex Smith.

Sure, they'll take their lumps. Alex is a serviceable guy and he's a great fit for what Harbaugh wants; however, I've never had the feeling that Alex was a special player. Kaep and Tolzien showed some poise and physical traits as a rookie (granted it was preseason) that we never saw from Alex. With Josh in the mix now, hes another guy that has some experience under center and a history in Harbaugh's system. I have faith the backups can lead our team. Alex had a very efficient season, but he was only asked to put up around 200 yds/game. We should be able to duplicate that in the passing game without being reckless.