The Aldon Smith thread

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
This s**t is taking forever!

Heard Maiocco on PFT earlier. Said a decision should be made any day now. Probably after Sunday's national televised game against the Chargers. NFL doesn't want the discussion to be all about Aldon during the game.

it will be all about aldon during the next game then

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Wait. It's against NFL policy to have a drink at a bar? Drinking beer and eating at McDonald's. This is what Aldon is being persecuted for?

Contrast this with knocking a woman out and dragging her lifeless corpse across the floor. This generation seems to have things a little backwards. I don't know if it is the violence in movies and video games, but there is something deeply disconcerting about society when written law is placed above unwritten virtue.

Pretend there is no law for a moment.

Aldon Smith's crimes against humanity consist of running his car into a tree, and becoming angry when being arrested for no reason at a McDonald's. These are the only two things he has done that have had an effect on other peoples lives. Those are facts. Everything else is theoretical.

Ray Rice knocked a woman out with violence, and, out of fear for HIMSELF, he dragged her across the ground.

Tree > Woman?
Anger > Violence?

What exactly is going on here?

My point was about if Aldon lied to the commish about being sober when he wasn't it could effect his suspension. I don't think that's crazy to think. 49ers are basing a lot of their thoughts about how long he should be suspended based on his time in rehab. If his time in rehab didn't seem to alter Aldons behavior the commish might deem a harsher penalty more necessary.

Your point is aldon lying... what is he lying about...lol

If they thought he was drinking then they can not let him get on the plane that day...no if ands or buts...especially when they already had him in a room talking about what just happened. (Bomb threat)

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Your point is aldon lying... what is he lying about...lol

If they thought he was drinking then they can not let him get on the plane that day...no if ands or buts...especially when they already had him in a room talking about what just happened. (Bomb threat)

A)Aldon says he's been sober since rehab.

B)Aldon was arrested at airport.

C)Police officer says he thought Aldon had been drinking.

Thats All I know. I do know from personal experience most times I've seen issues at airports its with intoxicated people but that's doesn't mean much.

If big IF C is true and A is a lie that devalues his time in rehab. If he lies to the Comish about it that also looks bad.

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Your point is aldon lying... what is he lying about...lol

If they thought he was drinking then they can not let him get on the plane that day...no if ands or buts...especially when they already had him in a room talking about what just happened. (Bomb threat)

A)Aldon says he's been sober since rehab.

B)Aldon was arrested at airport.

C)Police officer says he thought Aldon had been drinking.

Thats All I know. I do know from personal experience most times I've seen issues at airports its with intoxicated people but that's doesn't mean much.

If big IF C is true and A is a lie that devalues his time in rehab. If he lies to the Comish about it that also looks bad.

C is not true...if the officer thought he was drinking and aldon made the bomb statement then the officer should have never let him go....but neither was true and charges were never filed to be even dropped

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

C is not true...if the officer thought he was drinking and aldon made the bomb statement then the officer should have never let him go....but neither was true and charges were never filed to be even dropped

If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

C is not true...if the officer thought he was drinking and aldon made the bomb statement then the officer should have never let him go....but neither was true and charges were never filed to be even dropped

If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

If he says he hasn't drank then he hasn't had a drink...what's so hard ?

Can't lie if if he didn't do it

Unless you want him to lie and say he did drink

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by natrone06:

My biggest fear with the whole thing is about the airport incident. If Aldon tells the comish that he's been sober since rehab and they investigate and it turns out he wasn't that could really effect his suspension.

LAX is done. Plus how would they go about investigating if he was drinking? unless they gave him a breathalyzer that day, there is no way to determine if he had been drinking that day.

Its done legally but not in the NFLs eyes neccesarily. All it takes is a investigator from the NFL to talk to a bartender that served him. And if you think the NFL doesn't have investigators you are fooling yourself.

They have no grounds to do that, nor would it matter. To my knowledge he was not under any sort of probation , whether it be legal or through the NFL. LAX is over.

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
C is not true...if the officer thought he was drinking and aldon made the bomb statement then the officer should have never let him go....but neither was true and charges were never filed to be even dropped

If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

Aldon: "Mr. Goodell, I am very sorry for drinking, and having a party, and hurting that tree, and eating at McDonald's, and sorry for getting stabbed."

Goodell: "That's not good enough Aldon. You have to apologize to the tree, your liver, Ronald McDonald, and also the knife you dulled with your flesh."

Aldon: "But sir, I don't... I don't know where they are."

Goodell: "Ray Rice apologized to the object he hurt, but apparently, you don't feel like you have to do the same. I see."

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Originally posted by natrone06:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

C is not true...if the officer thought he was drinking and aldon made the bomb statement then the officer should have never let him go....but neither was true and charges were never filed to be even dropped

If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

Aldon: "Mr. Goodell, I am very sorry for drinking, and having a party, and hurting that tree, and eating at McDonald's, and sorry for getting stabbed."

Goodell: "That's not good enough Aldon. You have to apologize to the tree, your liver, Ronald McDonald, and also the knife you dulled with your flesh."

Aldon: "But sir, I don't... I don't know where they are."

Goodwill: well Aldon...that's not good enough...you are now banned from planet earf

I'm thinking the delay is a good sign for a light penalty.

A light penalty for Aldon will be very unpopular outside the Bay Area IMO likely making the normal "bad news Friday" press release even worse in the NFL's view. So what could lessen the PR hit more than releasing the news on a Friday? . . . Answer: Releasing the news on a Friday before a three day weekend . . . next weekend.

Originally posted by natrone06:
If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

IF he had been drinking Aldon would have immediately been given a test and he would have been booked accordingly. This drinking BS is a total load of crap! Who in their right minds believe that they would have let this slip if they truly had suspicion that Aldon was publicly intoxicated? Oh "I think he may have been drunk". GTFOH bi*ch (the cop), you know he wasn't drinking because if he had been you would have tested him! Y'all need to leave LAX alone! He had those charges dismissed and they have NO relevance here!

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by natrone06:

If Aldon was just a guy and not a star player on my favorite team and I was given all the the circumstantial evidence my inclination would be that he was drinking. Even if he was I think being honest with godell is more important. I think he's looking for real remorse and taking responsibility about everything.

IF he had been drinking Aldon would have immediately been given a test and he would have been booked accordingly. This drinking BS is a total load of crap! Who in their right minds believe that they would have let this slip if they truly had suspicion that Aldon was publicly intoxicated? Oh "I think he may have been drunk". GTFOH bi*ch (the cop), you know he wasn't drinking because if he had been you would have tested him! Y'all need to leave LAX alone! He had those charges dismissed and they have NO relevance here!

Its not illegal to be drinking in the airport. They sell alcohol there.

And any arrest/incednt with the law is completely relevant. This is not a court of law. This falls under the personal conduct policy which is a assessment of how a player behaves outside of football.

I'm over it though.I just wanted to express my concern with the upcoming suspension. If its longer then people think it should be this is possibly a reason. Who knows?

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
This s**t is taking forever!

Heard Maiocco on PFT earlier. Said a decision should be made any day now. Probably after Sunday's national televised game against the Chargers. NFL doesn't want the discussion to be all about Aldon during the game.

it will be all about aldon during the next game then

Yeah, but by then the story will be a week old, and the game won't be nationally televised.

Originally posted by natrone06:

Its not illegal to be drinking in the airport. They sell alcohol there.

And any arrest/incednt with the law is completely relevant. This is not a court of law. This falls under the personal conduct policy which is a assessment of how a player behaves outside of football.

I'm over it though.I just wanted to express my concern with the upcoming suspension. If its longer then people think it should be this is possibly a reason. Who knows?

I think by now we all know Aldon Smith has excellent lawyers and that the NFLPA has a lot of pull. There is NO way they let LAX factor in when the charges were dropped completely without a settlement or penalty whatsoever. All they really have on Aldon right now is the gun purchase that led to his illegal weapons possession charges reduced to misdemeanor. Sure they can throw the book at him but that was more of a mistake than a blatant attempt at possession with criminal intent. If Aldon knew this he wouldn't have allowed a search of his home until he had a chance to button those weapons or a search warrant was shown. It was a case of he should have known but didn't. Not IDGAF and Fu** the Police!

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I'm thinking the delay is a good sign for a light penalty.

A light penalty for Aldon will be very unpopular outside the Bay Area IMO likely making the normal "bad news Friday" press release even worse in the NFL's view. So what could lessen the PR hit more than releasing the news on a Friday? . . . Answer: Releasing the news on a Friday before a three day weekend . . . next weekend.

Good point.

Everybody else is out on a witch hunt. They don't care what Aldon actually did, they just want the prettiest girl in town to get dragged through the mud so they can feel better about themselves. That is what this is about.

They are cross-eyed, cretinous, degenerates, and Goodell has to choose between popularity vs virtue. We'll see which path he chooses.