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The Aldon Smith thread

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  • Wodwo
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Originally posted by Afrikan:
what is this "appearing" b******t? Totally unprofessional on their part.

either test him or shut the f**k up....that's some coward s**t. now time has passed and we won't know the truth....but the media will run with it.

Yeah, this bothered me, too.

I think it's pretty unethical to give an opinion about that when it isn't even related to the arrest.
sing couldve fixed him
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by thl408:
Maybe by "bomb" he meant some really good California weed and was just giving up his weed? Bomb bud.


On 95.7 they had a lady that called in claiming she was behind Smith at the Southwest counter, the security line, and then saw him in line at the terminal McDonalds when the cops confronted Smith. She said Smith was belligerent with both the Southwest counter agent and security, and she was surprised the two people traveling with him didn't tell him to calm down. As far as "bomb" goes, she claims he said "I am the bomb"...but would have to question that, didn't people stop saying that like 15 years ago?

I'm more worried that he was drunk in the daytime than I am of him trying to be a comedian when he shouldn't be (at an airport).

LOL @ "I am the bomb."
  • THEB
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Originally posted by DelCed2486:
He said "bomb", that's what. The airport is not the place to be a smart-a**, and TSA agents are not going to try and discern context or intent. If they hear the word, you're not making your flight and you will wear handcuffs.

Saying a word isnt illegal. The word Bomb isnt any more illegal than the word f**k or f*ggot. Its a word and you cannot get arrested for a word. Freedom of speech bro.

Oh well look here. The word f**k and f*ggot are censored...but the word Bomb isnt...Hmmmmm
[ Edited by THEB on Apr 14, 2014 at 1:11 PM ]
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Here's the Conn. situation.



Police say 26-year-old Jordan Rickard is due in court Tuesday after he allegedly said he had a bomb at Connecticut's Bradley International Airport. He allegedly made the comments Monday afternoon while he was being screened at Transportation Security Administration (TSA) checkpoint.

ALSO ONLINE: Bradley International Airport looks to renew service to Europe from Hartford-Springfield region (The Republican) ALSO ONLINE: Watchdog: TSA misconduct cases grew 26% in three years

TSA officers asked Rickard if he had anything in his pockets after he was selected for additional screening, NBC Connecticut reports. Police say Rickard's answer was: "Yes, I have a bomb."

Airport director Kevin Dillon tells The Associated Press the incident happened at 3:12 p.m. ET and forced security screening to be halted for about 25 minutes. Screening resumed at 3:37 "once state police were satisfied there was no real threat," The Hartford Courant reports. Fortunately for fliers, the terminal was not evacuated.

Rickard is being held on $25,000 bail and now faces several criminal charges, Lt. J. Paul Vance of the Connecticut State Police says to The Republican newspaper of Springfield, Mass.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayinthesky/2013/08/06/man-arrested-for-telling-tsa-screeners-i-have-a-bomb/2623315/



It appears that he was never convicted, nor did he go to trial at Enfield Superior Court in Conn and that the matter was dropped after the second hearing. There may have been a fine involved but the records don't list it.
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by thl408:
Maybe by "bomb" he meant some really good California weed and was just giving up his weed? Bomb bud.


On 95.7 they had a lady that called in claiming she was behind Smith at the Southwest counter, the security line, and then saw him in line at the terminal McDonalds when the cops confronted Smith. She said Smith was belligerent with both the Southwest counter agent and security, and she was surprised the two people traveling with him didn't tell him to calm down. As far as "bomb" goes, she claims he said "I am the bomb"...but would have to question that, didn't people stop saying that like 15 years ago?

Nice!! ...and if the lady shows up as a witness for Aldon, that will definitely throw it out of *beyond reasonable doubt* range as to whether he really did say *I have a bomb.* Then again, calling into a radio station doesn't mean Aldon's Legal Beagles can get a hold of her and subpoena her to testify though. ...sigh...
The crap we're going to have to put up with . . .

Originally posted by THEB:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
He said "bomb", that's what. The airport is not the place to be a smart-a**, and TSA agents are not going to try and discern context or intent. If they hear the word, you're not making your flight and you will wear handcuffs.

Saying a word isnt illegal. The word Bomb isnt any more illegal than the word f**k or f*ggot. Its a word and you cannot get arrested for a word. Freedom of speech bro.

Oh well look here. The word f**k and f*ggot are censored...but the word Bomb isnt...Hmmmmm

Freedom of Speech is not what the First Amendment actually says.

"Perhaps more than any other part of the Constitution, the First Amendment right of "free speech" gets cited by Americans.

Wrongly so.

From an eighth-grader suspended for recording a song about why his teacher should be dead to the gay community members whose parade has been rerouted, the chorus sounds the same: "My right to free speech is being violated."

The problem with that is: The Constitution doesn't guarantee you "free speech."

Despite what many seem to believe, the "freedom of speech" guarantee in the Constitution doesn't give you the right to say anything you want, anywhere you want.

The First Amendment makes it unconstitutional for government to suppress speech (and "expression" as it has come to include). That's it.

There are numerous exceptions to that, well beyond just the popular citation of the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" kind of speech that is prohibited. Under the Constitution, the courts allow for many types of dangerous speech to be regulated or banned by law.

Child pornography, defamation and inciting crimes are just a few examples of speech that has been determined to be illegal under the U.S. Constitution."

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20111017/news/710169875/
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
So with any luck the union and the lawyers can save us from losing the criminals on our team. I feel soo much better.

How far gone do you have to be like Aldon to have DUI's and weapons charges, go to rehab and still think it's ok to mess round with airport security and use the word bomb? This is Aldon trying to be on his best behavior because he is already on his 3rd or 4th chance. Did he attend special ed classes?

Two rules that clash in our American society. "He who has the gold, makes the rules." and "He who has the guns, makes the rules." In Aldon's case, he has gold and this justice system favors those who have either the gold or the guns. (guns being guys like the NSA and folks who work in the name of *National Security.*)

The NFL PA protects the players - that's by intentional design, that's good and that's not so good in certain circumstances. But in Aldon's case, it favors the 49ers. As for Aldon himself, change is itself hard. Everybody knows if you lose weight, you generally are healthier - but practically everybody in America is obese to some extent. I'm not excusing Aldon, but change is hard. Another saying is "you can take the boy out of the ghetto, but can you take the ghetto out of the boy?"
Originally posted by THEB:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
He said "bomb", that's what. The airport is not the place to be a smart-a**, and TSA agents are not going to try and discern context or intent. If they hear the word, you're not making your flight and you will wear handcuffs.

Saying a word isnt illegal. The word Bomb isnt any more illegal than the word f**k or f*ggot. Its a word and you cannot get arrested for a word. Freedom of speech bro.

Oh well look here. The word f**k and f*ggot are censored...but the word Bomb isnt...Hmmmmm


Well, bro, I'm sure you're a Constitutional scholar and all, but believe or not there are limits to freedom of speech. And did I say the word "bomb" is illegal per se? But anyway, put your money where you mouth is and run down to your nearest airport...you don't need to wait in the security line or even buy a ticket...just walk into the terminal and say something about a "bomb" to any airport/airline employee you choose, then see what happens.

Many thanks to captveg ^^^^^^ for explaining the First Amendment and its exceptions. I don't know how many times I've tried to explain this to people, but they seem to keep expanding the idea into all sorts of areas where it simply doesn't exist.
  • Giedi
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Originally posted by captveg:
Freedom of Speech is not what the First Amendment actually says.

"Perhaps more than any other part of the Constitution, the First Amendment right of "free speech" gets cited by Americans.

Wrongly so.

From an eighth-grader suspended for recording a song about why his teacher should be dead to the gay community members whose parade has been rerouted, the chorus sounds the same: "My right to free speech is being violated."

The problem with that is: The Constitution doesn't guarantee you "free speech."

Despite what many seem to believe, the "freedom of speech" guarantee in the Constitution doesn't give you the right to say anything you want, anywhere you want.

The First Amendment makes it unconstitutional for government to suppress speech (and "expression" as it has come to include). That's it.

There are numerous exceptions to that, well beyond just the popular citation of the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" kind of speech that is prohibited. Under the Constitution, the courts allow for many types of dangerous speech to be regulated or banned by law.

Child pornography, defamation and inciting crimes are just a few examples of speech that has been determined to be illegal under the U.S. Constitution."

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20111017/news/710169875/

I'll just add, that the constitution itself doesn't really regulate speech, it's main purpose is to regulate government.
[ Edited by Giedi on Apr 14, 2014 at 1:30 PM ]
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I still hope we pick up that fifth year option.
Originally posted by Giedi:
I'll just add, that the constitution itself doesn't really regulate speech, it's main purpose is to regulate government.

back at ya
As an LEO, my defense for him would be that he said, "What if I had a bomb?" His word vs. someone else's.
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