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Alex Boone competing at OG
May 15, 2012 at 6:34 PM
- MikeNolan
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Hi, I am Mike Nolan and I DO NOT APPROVE of this idea.
May 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Garcia:You talking then or now? I ask because Boone is much quicker and in better shape than before... so I would think he can handle the pull blocks pretty well.
harbaughs running offense it seems has the guards pulling a lot. Boone doesnt seem all the athletic
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Can't remember the name at the moment, but Oakland had a top rd OT that sucked at OT, but when moved in at G, he was very good. Another 6' 7"-ish guy, he was.
I just dont see how this dude will be able to get low enough? He'll be facing guys his weight and possibly stronger, but nearly 4 inches shorter.
I believe you're referencing Jared Veldheer? If he's the guy Im thinking of, he even got some time at C as a rookie and impressed. Good to know similarly tall individuals have succeeded on the inside.
Kevin Gogan?
May 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM
- Young2Rice
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Garcia:You talking then or now? I ask because Boone is much quicker and in better shape than before... so I would think he can handle the pull blocks pretty well.
harbaughs running offense it seems has the guards pulling a lot. Boone doesnt seem all the athletic
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Can't remember the name at the moment, but Oakland had a top rd OT that sucked at OT, but when moved in at G, he was very good. Another 6' 7"-ish guy, he was.
I just dont see how this dude will be able to get low enough? He'll be facing guys his weight and possibly stronger, but nearly 4 inches shorter.
I believe you're referencing Jared Veldheer? If he's the guy Im thinking of, he even got some time at C as a rookie and impressed. Good to know similarly tall individuals have succeeded on the inside.
Kevin Gogan?
yeah he was a 6' 7'' guard
May 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Garcia:You talking then or now? I ask because Boone is much quicker and in better shape than before... so I would think he can handle the pull blocks pretty well.
harbaughs running offense it seems has the guards pulling a lot. Boone doesnt seem all the athletic
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Can't remember the name at the moment, but Oakland had a top rd OT that sucked at OT, but when moved in at G, he was very good. Another 6' 7"-ish guy, he was.
I just dont see how this dude will be able to get low enough? He'll be facing guys his weight and possibly stronger, but nearly 4 inches shorter.
I believe you're referencing Jared Veldheer? If he's the guy Im thinking of, he even got some time at C as a rookie and impressed. Good to know similarly tall individuals have succeeded on the inside.
Kevin Gogan?
yeah he was a 6' 7'' guard
Played RT in college and for his first 3 years in Dallas, then switched to LG and helped Emmitt Smith win first rushing title. A former 9er as well. 3 Pro Bowls...Google is wonderful!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on May 15, 2012 at 9:02 PM ]
May 16, 2012 at 5:29 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Laptop freaked out... pardon.
[ Edited by oldman9er on May 16, 2012 at 5:31 AM ]
May 16, 2012 at 5:29 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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stupid connection issues....
[ Edited by oldman9er on May 16, 2012 at 5:31 AM ]
May 16, 2012 at 5:29 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
I believe you're referencing Jared Veldheer? If he's the guy Im thinking of, he even got some time at C as a rookie and impressed. Good to know similarly tall individuals have succeeded on the inside.
I was actually talking about Robert Gallery... the OT bust that made his teams smile when he shifted to G. There was also some other 6' 7" G playing for a team last season... Colts, I think. Just saying to others and as you have now said, there is a successful precedent. Frankly, I'm surprised at so much resistance over this. You would think the fans want the most experienced players on the field and especially the ones that have improved themselves so much as Boone has. Folks really want to start rookies or even Kilgore who hasn't played a reg. season snap? Well.... ooooookay.
May 16, 2012 at 5:39 AM
- qnnhan7
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They have young bodies at guard but who's backing up Goodwin at center.... I think it's one of the reason they are trying Boone at G. So Kilgore can backup Goodwin if there's an injury at Center. And Goodwin is 'the old man of the sea' at center for us next year. If there's an injury Kilgore will move inside to Center. Boone comes in at Guard for Kilgore. If no injury Boone is the backup swing tackle while Kilgore gets the Guard position.
If both Goodwin and Kilgore get injured, well there goes the season.... but wait...Iupati moves inside to become a Pro-bowl Center
If both Goodwin and Kilgore get injured, well there goes the season.... but wait...Iupati moves inside to become a Pro-bowl Center
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on May 16, 2012 at 6:22 AM ]
May 16, 2012 at 5:54 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The have young bodies at guard but who's backing up Goodwin at center.... I think it's one of the reason they are trying Boone at G. So Kilgore can backup Goodwin if there's an injury at Center. And Goodwin is 'the old man of the sea' at center for us next year. If there's an injury Kilgore will move inside to Center. Boone comes in at Guard for Kilgore. If no injury Boone is the backup swing tackle while Kilgore gets the Guard position.
If both Goodwin and Kilgore get injured, well there goes the season.... but wait...Iupati moves inside to become a Pro-bowl Center
Haha. It seems we have the coaches hoping that Kilgore can be a great replacement for Goodwin at C. If not, then Slowey could be that guy later. I am hoping Kilgore excels at C... that would mean that Slowey can be placed on the PS and this gives us another needed spot on the roster.
Looney is probably the plan B for 2013 if either Boone, Anthony Davis (please move him inside), or Kilgore don't handle the RG spot well enough.
We do still have Mike Person and Derek Hall that could be progressing better than we think at OT.
May 16, 2012 at 6:09 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
I was actually talking about Robert Gallery... the OT bust that made his teams smile when he shifted to G. There was also some other 6' 7" G playing for a team last season... Colts, I think. Just saying to others and as you have now said, there is a successful precedent. Frankly, I'm surprised at so much resistance over this. You would think the fans want the most experienced players on the field and especially the ones that have improved themselves so much as Boone has. Folks really want to start rookies or even Kilgore who hasn't played a reg. season snap? Well.... ooooookay.
Hmm...more examples of this working out than I had remembered at first! However, the examples we have listed were failures at OT and Boone has not failed.
May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
I was actually talking about Robert Gallery... the OT bust that made his teams smile when he shifted to G. There was also some other 6' 7" G playing for a team last season... Colts, I think. Just saying to others and as you have now said, there is a successful precedent. Frankly, I'm surprised at so much resistance over this. You would think the fans want the most experienced players on the field and especially the ones that have improved themselves so much as Boone has. Folks really want to start rookies or even Kilgore who hasn't played a reg. season snap? Well.... ooooookay.
Hmm...more examples of this working out than I had remembered at first! However, the examples we have listed were failures at OT and Boone has not failed.
Definitely appreciate the distinction. I think Boone can work at RG, as well as shift out to OT (due to others injured) and still be effective on the edge. As he stated in a Maiocco article... as an OT, you still have to know who your fellow teammates are supposed to block. So whether Alex plays outside or inside, he will know his assignment if his role changes suddenly.
May 16, 2012 at 7:05 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
Definitely appreciate the distinction. I think Boone can work at RG, as well as shift out to OT (due to others injured) and still be effective on the edge. As he stated in a Maiocco article... as an OT, you still have to know who your fellow teammates are supposed to block. So whether Alex plays outside or inside, he will know his assignment if his role changes suddenly.
I agree, but it does bother me that the coaches are still tinkering...hope they are just creating possibilities for the line and not trying to find someone who can play the position. Really would like to see the line set going into TC, or at least mid way through so that they can build needed rapport. As you say, Boone already knows his OT assignments pretty well and he is a logical choice to try at OG just to see if he can play the position.
Perhaps they are just doing what I have been wanting...cross training so that injuries will be less catastrophic?!
May 16, 2012 at 7:09 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Definitely appreciate the distinction. I think Boone can work at RG, as well as shift out to OT (due to others injured) and still be effective on the edge. As he stated in a Maiocco article... as an OT, you still have to know who your fellow teammates are supposed to block. So whether Alex plays outside or inside, he will know his assignment if his role changes suddenly.
I agree, but it does bother me that the coaches are still tinkering...hope they are just creating possibilities for the line and not trying to find someone who can play the position. Really would like to see the line set going into TC, or at least mid way through so that they can build needed rapport. As you say, Boone already knows his OT assignments pretty well and he is a logical choice to try at OG just to see if he can play the position.
Perhaps they are just doing what I have been wanting...cross training so that injuries will be less catastrophic?!
Yeah, maybe so. One thing's for sure, I have a LOT more faith in these coaches to quickly find the best spots for these guys.. be it on the bench or starting 5. So with that much said, I don't mind a little tinkering to see who can do what. We really have the time... this time... to get the spots figured out.
May 16, 2012 at 7:10 AM
- NeeJ49er
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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Garcia:You talking then or now? I ask because Boone is much quicker and in better shape than before... so I would think he can handle the pull blocks pretty well.
harbaughs running offense it seems has the guards pulling a lot. Boone doesnt seem all the athletic
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Can't remember the name at the moment, but Oakland had a top rd OT that sucked at OT, but when moved in at G, he was very good. Another 6' 7"-ish guy, he was.
I just dont see how this dude will be able to get low enough? He'll be facing guys his weight and possibly stronger, but nearly 4 inches shorter.
I believe you're referencing Jared Veldheer? If he's the guy Im thinking of, he even got some time at C as a rookie and impressed. Good to know similarly tall individuals have succeeded on the inside.
Kevin Gogan?
yeah he was a 6' 7'' guard
Played RT in college and for his first 3 years in Dallas, then switched to LG and helped Emmitt Smith win first rushing title. A former 9er as well. 3 Pro Bowls...Google is wonderful!
The guy was a BEAST and a vital part of the offensive line at the time ...I remember one game Steve Young got hurt , and while Steve was on the sidelines in pain, Gogan got hurt on the field, and all of a sudden, Steve went running out on the field to check on him, I think he even beat the medical staff onto the field... that showed how important he was to the team and how his teammates respected him ......If Boone can start giving us Kevin Gogan play , then our line will be more than a dominating unit
May 26, 2012 at 12:27 PM
- OnTheClock
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Interesting to see that thus far, he's the front-runner to win the RG position.
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_20711198/49ers-alex-boone-makes-strides-bid-start-at
Right now, it seems they've pretty much made the TC depth chart like:
LT: Staley, Boone, Person
LG: Iupati, Kilgore, Looney, Slowey
C: Goodwin, Kilgore, Slowey
RG: Boone, Kilgore, Looney, Slowey, Beeler
RT: Davis, Boone, Person
http://www.mercurynews.com/49ers/ci_20711198/49ers-alex-boone-makes-strides-bid-start-at
Right now, it seems they've pretty much made the TC depth chart like:
LT: Staley, Boone, Person
LG: Iupati, Kilgore, Looney, Slowey
C: Goodwin, Kilgore, Slowey
RG: Boone, Kilgore, Looney, Slowey, Beeler
RT: Davis, Boone, Person