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LaMichael James was a Niner (CUT!)

Originally posted by matt49er:
I'm not happy about the LMJ trade talk. I really think if we just utilized him he would be effective. When we gave him a chance, he's played well and he did a nice job as a return man last year. My worst fear is he goes to another team and they utilize him correctly and he becomes just like Sproles. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints go after him with just that in mind.

The Saints will be all over this and I bet Baalke knows this. We just aren't going to morph into the Spread offense most want in here. Period. We may see a few new wrinkles but nothing more and this trade-talk is an example of this (non-change in philosophy). So we need to get over that ASAP.

Also, we a have a tremendous recent history of letting players walk, who are cut or traded and who have done NOTHING since they left us: Sopoaga, Franklin, Haralson, Johnson, Goldson, etc. Walker has done the best but he WAS the Titan's offense and even he wasn't a big deal.

I do have to say though, that if James goes to the right team and is tapped into (used properly), I'd say he has the best chance to do something with his career of ALL the players we've cut/lost in FA/traded away.
If we package him with the 30th pick could we get up to the 28th pick?
Originally posted by cciowa:
wonder if we would draft a wide out.rb/ cornerback with some sort of a combo of return skills. i would like to finally feel confident in the return game

Would make excellent sense. The news coming out that LMJ is on the trade block would also indicate a move in that direction.

LMJ always scared me when he fielded punts.
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He hasn't really done much but doesn't get the rock too much either. I'm ok with trading him but we desperately need a KR/PR. I'm more excited about Lattimore getting some PT.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Like him a lot, but if Roman/Harbs

Might as well ship him off to a team that will use him properly...

i hate roman as much as i love mayo's penis but i am starting to think he is just not that good and again i have no confidence in him to return a punt


He wasn't drafted in the 2nd round with the idea he'd only be a returner...he did very little of PR or KR at Oregon, although he was a solid KR if not spectacular, and though shaky as a PR was hands-down better than Kyle Williams. I think the "vision" of whoever wanted to draft him was that of an all-purpose back running sweeps, catching swings/screens, occasionally split wide or in the slot. When LMJ was finally given a shot in late-2012 when Hunter went down, he produced. But 2013 rolls around and he's back to wearing street clothes during games. His "failure" in SF is more about a disconnect with HarBaalke and the unwillingness/inability of HaRo to utilize LMJ's skill set.
Only play that stands out in my mind (that wasn't on special teams) is his fumble in the Super Bowl and walking into the end zone against the Falcons. And his whining on Twitter.

Good riddance.
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Originally posted by Chico:
He hasn't really done much but doesn't get the rock too much either. I'm ok with trading him but we desperately need a KR/PR. I'm more excited about Lattimore getting some PT.

I think one of the reasons LMJ's being considered for trade is that I don't think he's a power runner between the tackles like a Tony Dorsett or a Kendal Hunter. Both these guys - even though they are small - can power off tackle and use their speed to hit a home run. I haven't seen enough inside power running and breaking tackles from LMJ to justify Harbaugh keeping him. He's more of a spread RB that needs the ball in space. Ultimately though I think we end up keeping LMJ, he'll be a deadly weapon if we go to the spread attack.
Saints?

Sean Payton will turn him into a Pro-Bowler.
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
Saints?

Sean Payton will turn him into a Pro-Bowler.

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Originally posted by OregonNiner87:
Only play that stands out in my mind (that wasn't on special teams) is his fumble in the Super Bowl and walking into the end zone against the Falcons. And his whining on Twitter.

Good riddance.
for those things you mentioned, plus his botched punt last year in the playoffs,, i am leaning to this way of thinking,, if we get a fifth for him, wow. more likely a sixth and then he will turn out like so many other x niners who did squat after they left us
this tells me that lattimore is close to taking over
Originally posted by matt49er:
I'm not happy about the LMJ trade talk. I really think if we just utilized him he would be effective. When we gave him a chance, he's played well and he did a nice job as a return man last year. My worst fear is he goes to another team and they utilize him correctly and he becomes just like Sproles. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Saints go after him with just that in mind.

Hmm are you at the practices & the OTA's and training camp? He has had the chance to prove himself in practice. He's played well? He's done a nice job as a return man last yr?
Sorry but what he has shown in the return game is that he is sub par. What he has shown us in the games is he's below sub par. He goes down way to easily. It is very unfair to compare him to Sproles because sproles runs and moves (field presence) with a speed LMJ just hasn't showed. Sure he shows a flash, but he's nowhere near Hunder as a RB. LMJ has been a big disappointment.

I have heard Lynch & Miacco both say on KNBR that he has had the opportunity to shine in practice, and with our coaching staff if you bust ass in practice you get rewarded with reps in the game. Sorry but even in preseason what has he shown against 2nd & 3rd stringers?? Nothing.

With Lattimore & Hunter & Hampton in the mix...man we will not miss LMJ. He had only 2 big KO returns last yr too. not real impressive
Can't keep wasting these top picks
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
this tells me that lattimore is close to taking over

If Lattimore turns out to be a stud this year is going to be special.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
this tells me that lattimore is close to taking over

I don't see it that way. Not if they are bringing in a host of running backs for personal workouts, or visiting the facility. I simply see the team on the verge of moving on without LMJ. He is not going to be a feature back at his size. While Lattimore is more the prototypical back, the backfield is getting crowded with Gore, Hunter, Lattimore. Not sure where LMJ would fit. He is already a fourth string back on the roster.