Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
I agree that they could install a sub package for LMJ, but if they arent going to...then what is the point of keeping him. And despite the snark from pheonix I dont agree that Hunter is the same style as Gore...one is clearly a one move and hit the hole as fast as possible runner that is hoping to be elusive in once hitting the second level and the other uses vision and patience to set up his blocks and then pushes the pile after contact by running low and with power. Those are not the same thing, beyond that Hunter does in fact have similar speed to LMJ, which further highlights how silly it is that one can block and run between the tackles and the other needs plays designed around getting him in open space just to be effective. The issue as I see it is that Hunter could do everything LMJ is doing for us as a back and still be used in pass protection and between the tackles...he has superior speed to Gore and is probably more dangerous when he gets to the edge,but isnt a one trick pony so he is more usefull than LMJ...pretty much my definition of a change of pace back.
Hunter and Gore are much more similar in style as running backs, but James is the guy who presents a different package and combination of athleticism. He's the quickest running back on the roster, he's not a burner but he's also the fastest running back on the roster. He's a guy who can be extremely elusive and make people miss in the open field, the problem is he is continually being used the wrong way. When they put him in offense, they'll often run him the way they would run with Gore, they haven't tried incorporating him into the passing game as a checkdown threat much, utilize him on screens, slants, it doesn't have to be as extensive as what the Saints do but damn, they drafted the guy, give him a chance to work into the offense and make some plays, he's a mismatch for a lot of defenses with the ball in his hands, yet another guy who can stretch the field out.
People like to compare Hunter and James because of their size but their running styles are nothing alike.
I think New Orleans would and could use LMJ very well because they have proclivity towards the sort of things he excells at, Seattle and Denver had guys like him and never used them all that well and New England has a similar power run game to ours and he probably wouldnt even make the field. LMJ has a particular skill set...there are a few teams in the league that he would be attractive to...but to portray it like our OC is a jackass
Roman is a jackass for that and many other reasons. And yes, New England couldn't utilize a guy with James' skillset but they successfully utilized superstars such as Edelman and Woodhead. Makes sense.
because he doesnt fit in here as well as planned is just pattently false...he would have a tough time on a lot of teams.
That's your opinion entirely of course, I think there's a lot of teams that he could be a valuable contributor on. I'm sure we can agree to disagree.
As to that jackass in the booth if he was running specific backs in a specific way everytime they entered the game you would be complaining about how its a tell for the opposing defense....typical. The dude is very far from perfect, but sometimes I wish people would limit their arguements to legitimate gripes rather than just blathering on about things adding to the noise.
One of the very problems with their offensive philosophy they try so hard to throw the defense off that they end up putting themselves in bad situations as result, such as when running Dixon out wide. Run James to the outside and block for him, if the defense stops him, great, but at least give him a chance to be a playmaker, get the ball out to him in space, the best offenses in the NFL don't have a lot of surprises to them, you know what they are going to do and you know who the ball is going to and they still manage to be successful. Trying to be overly clever and use a bunch of gadget plays does not an offensive philosophy make.
So yeah, that jackass in the booth continues to show that he doesn't have a clue how to utilize these guys in ways that make the player and the team successful.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Dec 2, 2013 at 10:19 AM ]