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LaMichael James was a Niner (CUT!)

Originally posted by buck:
It does take two to tango--and at this point we do not even know if there is any music.

Simply put--Baalke can not force a trade. Baalke can not ensure that this or any trade happen.

But, that is, or should be, readily apparent, isn't it?


Noone is suggesting forcing of a trade. Is very simple, is either there is a trade or there isn't.

Assuming there is a trade, a team will win the bid. If the 49ers fail to secure that winning bid, we will have to see why.

But, in all likelihood, as reported by the press, perhaps the Browns really might have chickened out.

So, we will see.
Originally posted by buck:
Well, there are just about four days until the trade deadline.

I am almost ready to bet that the Browns do not trade Josh Gordon--almost.

If the Browns lose Sunday, which they probably will @ KC, then their brief dreams of a playoff run will be over, because now they'll be 3-5 and on a 3-game losing streak...anyway, then I think they'll be much more willing to deal Gordon. He still might not get traded, but just that it would be more likely. But if they somehow pull the upset, then I think he stays because it would be a "throw in the towel" move and a PR nightmare.
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!
Originally posted by NJNiner:
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!

out of the WR's, it'll be Moore or Baldwin.
Originally posted by NJNiner:
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!

Kyle Williams will not get the axe. The coaches like him as a returned otherwise James would be returning...
what a waste of talent
Originally posted by NJNiner:
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!


To me, it will have to be KW. If LMJ is really not being traded as reported, he can go back to punt return for a short while. In the long run, I think Cox should do both KR and PR.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!


To me, it will have to be KW. If LMJ is really not being traded as reported, he can go back to punt return for a short while. In the long run, I think Cox should do both KR and PR.

Marlon Moore would be the first to go, easily. Not even a question.

But Gordon isn't coming so....
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Originally posted by susweel:
what a waste of talent

you are only looking at it from the prism of what you have seen him do in college and in a small body of work.. I think the problem is that we are not seeing james and other players through the eyes off the coaches who see them every day. that is why we we get upset because we think a certain player is not being used right . i think there is a reason why james is not playing and it has to do with what the coaches see every day in practice and behind the scenes, we do not see that
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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by NJNiner:
If we do land a WR like Gordon, who do you think will be send packing? I am betting Kyle Williams gets the axe!

Kyle Williams will not get the axe. The coaches like him as a returned otherwise James would be returning...

and we are not trading for gordon or anyone else so that makes the whole discussion moot in my opinion
Originally posted by cciowa:
and we are not trading for gordon or anyone else so that makes the whole discussion moot in my opinion


Well, my motto is never say never. cc, remember how heated you were about cutting AJ Jenkins and everyone were saying no way would the 9ers cut a 1st round pick after a year ? Well, we didn't cut him, we traded him, but the point is Baalke still unloaded Jenkins and everyone were shocked to bits. As for this Gordon trade, I am not saying it will happen, in fact the chances are more than likely it won't, but I am not saying anything until we pass the deadline. If it doesn't happen, then just too bad.
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Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by cciowa:
and we are not trading for gordon or anyone else so that makes the whole discussion moot in my opinion


Well, my motto is never say never. cc, remember how heated you were about cutting AJ Jenkins and everyone were saying no way would the 9ers cut a 1st round pick after a year ? Well, we didn't cut him, we traded him, but the point is Baalke still unloaded Jenkins and everyone were shocked to bits. As for this Gordon trade, I am not saying it will happen, in fact the chances are more than likely it won't, but I am not saying anything until we pass the deadline. If it doesn't happen, then just too bad.
i am a bit lost. i was not upset they dumped jenkins,, i lobbied for it front and center and i could have cared less if he was cut , traded or driven off a cliff, just as long as he was no longer on the team. when they dumped him i was not shocked to bits, i expected it because he was not out playing anyone in practice and no matter how high you are drafted when that happens you are gone..... the same goes for james, he is not out playing anyone in practice so i would not be shocked to see him go. if we wanted gordon, it would already be done. it is obvious what the niner plan is and that is get at least mario back. crabs would be gravy to me
Originally posted by cciowa:
i am a bit lost. i was not upset they dumped jenkins,, i lobbied for it front and center and i could have cared less if he was cut , traded or driven off a cliff, just as long as he was no longer on the team. when they dumped him i was not shocked to bits, i expected it because he was not out playing anyone in practice and no matter how high you are drafted when that happens you are gone..... the same goes for james, he is not out playing anyone in practice so i would not be shocked to see him go. if we wanted gordon, it would already be done. it is obvious what the niner plan is and that is get at least mario back. crabs would be gravy to me


No, I don't mean you were shocked to bits cos I knew you wanted him gone and frankly me too. But, everyone were saying we were out of our minds and yet it happened. But, going back to Gordon, I do agree if it were to happen it, by right it should have happened by now. It could well be the Browns are sitting on it until the last minute or may be they might have already told Baalke no which would explain why Baalke came out to say LMJ won't be traded and any WR signing will be unlikely. Well, just give it a few more days and this will all be over.

One way of looking at it as Adam Schefter has noted, the Browns have already traded away five 1st round picks in Richardson, Beason, Monroe, Brown and McKinnie, so would trading one more guy be really out of the realms ? Who knows ?

The other question is if Gordon is off the table, would Baalke even consider a rental on Nicks ?

Only time will tell.
Just like in Free Agency, the 49er's will DRAG their feet and most likely not do anything. UNTIL they find out that both Manningham and Crabtree are not fully healed and are unable to perform in full capacity, then we'll hear the Shudda , Cudda and Woulda statements.

Especially if one of the teams in the division picks up Gordon or one of the other receivers they were considering. I can see the reaction now if Seattle picks up one of them just to spite the 49er's.
I feel that LMJ is grossly overrated. He looks nothing like Sproles. Hunter is signficantly better than LMJ.