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LaMichael James was a Niner (CUT!)

we're deep at rb and they determined they'd rather suit up either an extra d-lineman or someone who contributes on sp teams coverage unit.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Yeah. James gets arm tackled. Doesn't mesh with our power running game. He wasn't active for games last year until hunter went down and its happening again this year.

Baalke's 2012 draft was a complete disaster. Not even one player starting or promising.

James should not have to be part of the power running game. He was never that at Oregon. He COULD be a nice change of pace back, swing man out of the backfield, etc. We have discussed all this. However, the key point has just been reinforced once again yesterday: HaRo have no clue how to use this guy.

He should have some trade value but he doesn't due to the choice by the coaching staff to try to fit a square peg into a round hole. Therefore, I am assuming he will be released at some point and go to a team like New Orleans who will turn him into a very nice weapon out of the backfield. I'm sure Mike McCarthy in Green Bay would love to have him as well. He needs to go to a team that runs stretch plays and runs multiple receiver offenses. Baalke would be lucky to get a more than a conditional 7th that could be a 6th.

TOTAL disconnect between Baalke and Harbaugh on even choosing James in the draft. Why Baalke drafted him without consulting Harbaugh is a mystery to me.


all that talent going to waste.
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Originally posted by Buchy:
I think a few things on this:

1) I think his blocking is suspect perhaps so he can;t be on the field more, he won't unseat Gore or Hunter on that
2) If all we did was throw a screen or run pistol then as soon as he came on the field the defense would know the call.

Exactly!

Gore and Hunter can go inside and outside. James screams of a one dimensional player and the D would know it. If Latt comes back 100% I would bet we resign Dixon cheap and dump James. Actually we could probably trade him to Philly.

Sproles doesn't scream one dimensional?
My thoughts? Roman is trying to form Kap to be a legit pocket passer. To do this, the last thing Kap needs is new cogs around him. He needs vets who know how to improvise in case plays do not go as planned. Until then, don't expect guys like LMJ, kYle Williams, Baldwin or Patten to contribute.

LMJ isn't close to Sproles' talent level.


So you can decree this from the extremely limited number of touches James has been given? Sproles has made a living coming out of the backfield and burning LB's who can't find him, catches a 5-yd pass and turns it into chunk yardage. Have you seen HaRo put James into situations to utilize his very similar skill set?

His lack of dressing for the games is proof of this. Obviously he isn't some kind of elite talent, if he was he wouldn't be getting passed up by Dix and KW. Either Harbs has a massive grudge or the kid isn't as good as people think. You really believe Harbs likes KW's return ability or the lack of true speed on O?


I don't know why Harbaugh is so stubborn in his use of KW, it's one of those enigmas wrapped inside a riddle. I know there are injuries to the WR corps, but it's not just this year...KW sees the field a lot, gets a lot of reps, and I just don't see anything special about him.

I would absolutely rather see LMJ have packages for him where he can line up in the slot, have him in the pistol next to/behind Kaepernick and force LB's to not lose him in the wash at the LOS on short pass routes, set up screens/reverses/swings/wheel routes for him. Get him the ball in space. And the dude CAN run the ball...so he gets knocked down for no gain sometimes...happens to Gore, Hunter, and Sproles, too. Look at the only game LMJ got any amount of extended carries this season, it was vs the Rams. Yes, only the Rams, but at the point in the game they knew the Niners were going to run the ball, but they were running stretch plays and LMJ was still hitting the edge FAST and looked good.

Last season Harbaugh sat on LMJ and only played him once his hand was forced with the Hunter injury. And James produced...in 4 reg season games over 4.5 ypc, only caught 3 passes but all went for 1st downs. Plus he can return kicks....and can do it much better than KW. I just don't get where this notion comes from that he doesn't have what it takes to be one of those dynamic guys that's lightning in a bottle. It's kinda hard to prove himself when he's in street clothes...yes, this can become a circular argument, because why is he in street clothes then? Good question. It really might be as simple as maybe he's an immature a-hole and Harbaugh doesn't like his act, and unless Harbaugh feels it's a pressing need to have him in there, then he's not going to play. I think it's too bad, because I do believe he is a playmaker and just a small handful of plays for him would be a nice added dimension to this offense.
[ Edited by DelCed2486 on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM ]
i think they dont like him because he talks out online all the time. hes a better return man than williams by far and williams contributes nothing as a receiver so the fact that he plays and james doesnt tells me he's in the doghouse. hopefully they can trade him for something if theyre gonna cut him loose anyway when lattimore is healthy next year
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think they dont like him because he talks out online all the time. hes a better return man than williams by far and williams contributes nothing as a receiver so the fact that he plays and james doesnt tells me he's in the doghouse. hopefully they can trade him for something if theyre gonna cut him loose anyway when lattimore is healthy next year

i think so too. dude is always whining on twitter and i really think it rubs Harbaugh the wrong way
They seem to have a tendency to draft guys fairly high and then not use them; in fact, not even dress them for games! I got that with Jenkins, but LMJ seems to have some legit talent, and, as said elsewhere, is a better return man than Williams and can't be much worse in the passing game. It's not like the offense is on fire; the D has been our strength. The O could use a jolt. If they're trying to make a point with the young man, re his spouting off, I think it's been made, unless there's some behind the scenes mutiny we don't know about. Not using him is hurting any potential trade value as well. Seems dumb.
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Does LMJ whine online "all the time" or did he do it once?
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I posted a video of all of James touches last year, where is he getting "arm tackled"? I seen plenty of cases where he goes down on outside runs due to being bottled up by 3 defenders, but where is he getting arm tackled? He squats over 500 pounds and has quite a bit more power than people give him credit for.

I think power is a bit over-rated anyway. What matters is gaining yards.
[ Edited by Liono on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM ]
Ugh LMJ is retweeting tweets about that he should be traded.
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Originally posted by monsterzero789:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
i think they dont like him because he talks out online all the time. hes a better return man than williams by far and williams contributes nothing as a receiver so the fact that he plays and james doesnt tells me he's in the doghouse. hopefully they can trade him for something if theyre gonna cut him loose anyway when lattimore is healthy next year

i think so too. dude is always whining on twitter and i really think it rubs Harbaugh the wrong way
you know guys,, i have decided that i am getting sick and tired of his tantrums he is throwing online all the time. i see there was another story about that today. i have moaned about them not using him as a return man but I think I am not done defending him. I mean hunter does not get all the carries i am sure he wants but you never hear him say anything,, i do not know,, does hunter talk? what does he say? i think you guys have hit on something that we have all missed. jacobs ran his mouth last year and next thing you know he was gone. there is a right way and a wrong way to get more playing time and I woke up today and realized james is going about it the wrong way. I am sick of his b***hing and moaning. i can now say f**k him, trade him for a 7th round draft pick. williams may not be what we want but he does not b***h. as a matter of fact,, off all 50 plus players,,does anyone else throw tantrums on line the way james does?? NO,, f**k him
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Originally posted by kap2crab:
Ugh LMJ is retweeting tweets about that he should be traded.

yes,, this is not the first time,,, as i said,, i am sick of this s**t and as some guys have said,,,, this may be the reason he does not get time
What an idiot. Some people just don't learn. James is digging a grave.
[ Edited by theduke85 on Oct 24, 2013 at 6:40 PM ]
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when JH stops talking about you,, you should start packing your bags
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Are you guys sure Baalke took him without the input of Harbaugh? Harbaugh played against LMJ at Stanford a number of times and would have seen what a talent he is. I think LMJ will go somewhere else and become a great weapon.....