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LaMichael James is a Niner

Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Bluesbro:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Probably the worst draft i've seen in my lifetime. Only one guy left within 2 years who barely makes the active roster.

AJ Jenkins was the worst pick in 49ers and arguably NFL history.

I don't want to get another warning, so I will refrain from saying anything other than ... this is the type of post that loses someone all credibility. Particularly since the player is still young, in the league and could eventually do something. Also, it wasn't like he was the first player selected in the draft that year, or a high first rounder (Hi Jamarcus, Mr. Leaf). He was a late first rounder.

NOOOOOO, not my internet fan forum credibility!

NOOO!

But seriously though. I said it was arguable. Never seen a draft pick do absolutely nothing, including being able to run without falling down. That's all.

Have you ever seen a healthy WR who can't stay on his feet and had 0 career catches in 3 years?

3 years?

My bad. 2 years
I wasn't aware James was unhappy with his playing time. Surprised the news didn't make it on here. He's a good player but I can't seem to forget his fumble in the Bowch.
  • dj43
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Originally posted by 49erWay:
James wasn't a bad pick. He was not a high pick. He has talent and was worth a try. Turns out he simply doesn't fit the plan right now.

THAT is the problem. He didn't fit the plan then, or NOW. It looks like Baalke and Harbaugh were on completely different planets at the time of the draft. Baalke saw what James was at Oregon and saw great potential for him in the NFL to be something similar to Reggie Bush or Darren Sproles. The problem is, Harbaugh has nothing in his playbook even close to what those guys are doing. As a consequence, James has wasted his first two years sitting on a team that has no plan or no way to use him. He is a round peg sitting next to a board that has only square holes. Not his fault. Baalke should try to trade him to New Orleans. He could probably get a 7th round pick for him and Peyton could turn him into a star player in his system.
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I've always thought the 2012 draft was a reaction to the Alex Smith Niners. They needed to add some speed and probably overdid it in regards to talent and fit. I don't think at the time they thought Kaep would be this good, at least not this fast. I do think they could at least have some packages for James, but it's obvious they don't trust him at all in pass protection and I'm sure they know other coaches pick up on that and see James in and know that means run. If you can't be multiple, JH doesn't seem to want to use you. I do wonder why we never run screen plays at all with 3 backs who would seem adept at them.
OR maybe LaMichael James just isn't very good. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that the coaches are just sitting him on the bench because they don't have anything in the playbook for him. That's ridiculous. I had high hopes for James too but what we've seen from him as NOT been impressive. AT ALL! Who knows, if he stays in the weight room and can actually come in on passing downs and block without getting killed he might be able to work his way into some sort of consistent role on offense. If you can't block, you can't play RB at this level. The qb has to be able to check to a pass play from a run play without feeling like his RB is going to get him killed. James is a poosy!
Originally posted by NinerG94:
OR maybe LaMichael James just isn't very good. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that the coaches are just sitting him on the bench because they don't have anything in the playbook for him. That's ridiculous. I had high hopes for James too but what we've seen from him as NOT been impressive. AT ALL! Who knows, if he stays in the weight room and can actually come in on passing downs and block without getting killed he might be able to work his way into some sort of consistent role on offense. If you can't block, you can't play RB at this level. The qb has to be able to check to a pass play from a run play without feeling like his RB is going to get him killed. James is a poosy!

I don't totally agree with all of what you said, but I think it's pretty obvious that we over-drafted James and he has limited NFL skills... man the 2012 draft blew chunks!!
HOW IS this guy worse than Boobie?
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Originally posted by NinerG94:
OR maybe LaMichael James just isn't very good. I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that the coaches are just sitting him on the bench because they don't have anything in the playbook for him. That's ridiculous. I had high hopes for James too but what we've seen from him as NOT been impressive. AT ALL! Who knows, if he stays in the weight room and can actually come in on passing downs and block without getting killed he might be able to work his way into some sort of consistent role on offense. If you can't block, you can't play RB at this level. The qb has to be able to check to a pass play from a run play without feeling like his RB is going to get him killed. James is a poosy!

I disagree that James can't block. First of all, we don't have much to look at but on a couple of the very few plays he was in, he did a decent job blocking.

However, the main point it, we have never seen Harbaugh run any of the screens or swings or RB curls that would all be great routes for James. When James has been in, he is usually running the same plays Gore would run. James is not a "poosy" but he is not even close to the strength of Gore, very few are. But James can run stretch plays to great advantage and certainly could command a great deal of respect from LBs if allowed to run some pass routes out of the backfield. Roger Craig could probably teach Harbaugh a few things about that. Now that I think of it, Rathman should have a few routes that he could add. It just seems obvious Harbaugh is not interested in any of it.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
HOW IS this guy worse than Boobie?

I think he is... at this point, Boobie has value because of his short-yardage ability. I just don't see James having value when Hunter seems like he's better and they're both very similar.
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
HOW IS this guy worse than Boobie?

boobie can play sp teams, rb and fb if need be. lmj needs gore to be tired and hunter to be hurt to get out there.
Originally posted by dj43:
I disagree that James can't block. First of all, we don't have much to look at but on a couple of the very few plays he was in, he did a decent job blocking.

However, the main point it, we have never seen Harbaugh run any of the screens or swings or RB curls that would all be great routes for James. When James has been in, he is usually running the same plays Gore would run. James is not a "poosy" but he is not even close to the strength of Gore, very few are. But James can run stretch plays to great advantage and certainly could command a great deal of respect from LBs if allowed to run some pass routes out of the backfield. Roger Craig could probably teach Harbaugh a few things about that. Now that I think of it, Rathman should have a few routes that he could add. It just seems obvious Harbaugh is not interested in any of it.


Yep. James is an entirely different runner than Gore or Hunter but they pretty much call the same plays for him as they do the other two.
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I think a few things on this:

1) I think his blocking is suspect perhaps so he can;t be on the field more, he won't unseat Gore or Hunter on that
2) If all we did was throw a screen or run pistol then as soon as he came on the field the defense would know the call.
If he would play as good as he b***hes he might have a bigger roll. Brandon jacobs was a terrible influence on him last year.
Rashaun Woods. He couldn't even make a bad Niners team!
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by TonyStarks:
HOW IS this guy worse than Boobie?

I think he is... at this point, Boobie has value because of his short-yardage ability. I just don't see James having value when Hunter seems like he's better and they're both very similar.
Dixon's value is on special teams, that's it. He even sucks at short yardage, dances around too much.
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