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LaMichael James is a Niner

Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by xela510:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Probably the worst draft i've seen in my lifetime. Only one guy left within 2 years who barely makes the active roster.

AJ Jenkins was the worst pick in 49ers and arguably NFL history.

Jamarcus Russel is indeed the worst pick in NFL History

He goes #1 and the following players go after him

Calvin Johnson
Joe Thomas
Adrian Peterson
Patrick Willis
Darrelle Revis

all potential HOF'ers

then you have

Marshawn Lynch
Eric Weddle
Joe Staley
Dwayne Bowe

also in that draft
That was a good draft for us. We got both Willis and Staley.

don't forget RayMac, Goldson and T. Brown...Man that was an awesome draft by the drunk.
Originally posted by 5280High:
Jesus f*cking Christ, people still b***hing about that draft... nailing 2 out of 3 drafts is a pretty damn good record and I'd be ecstatic he continues to nail 2 out of every 3.

Get over it, that draft also gave us some good players this year and LMJ is still gonna be a force in the coming years, Jenkins has been replaced with Baldwin who looks alright and we are still considered one of the model franchises. Its impossible to bat a thousand year over year, but we have some great starters and allot of depth.. some "fans" dont know how good we got it and think everything is a Madden game.

Also remains to be seen what Looney can do, don't think anyone expected him to come in and be a starter right off the bat but there will come a time when they will need him to contribute so everyone will see what he's got. As far as James, I think he's just completely being misused, I think he's got a lot of talent, explosiveness, that kick return against the Patriots was a thing of beauty, there's nobody else on this roster with that sort of explosiveness, at this point, I'm all for making James the kick and punt returner over Fair Catch Williams.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Jesus f*cking Christ, people still b***hing about that draft... nailing 2 out of 3 drafts is a pretty damn good record and I'd be ecstatic he continues to nail 2 out of every 3.

Get over it, that draft also gave us some good players this year and LMJ is still gonna be a force in the coming years, Jenkins has been replaced with Baldwin who looks alright and we are still considered one of the model franchises. Its impossible to bat a thousand year over year, but we have some great starters and allot of depth.. some "fans" dont know how good we got it and think everything is a Madden game.

Also remains to be seen what Looney can do, don't think anyone expected him to come in and be a starter right off the bat but there will come a time when they will need him to contribute so everyone will see what he's got. As far as James, I think he's just completely being misused, I think he's got a lot of talent, explosiveness, that kick return against the Patriots was a thing of beauty, there's nobody else on this roster with that sort of explosiveness, at this point, I'm all for making James the kick and punt returner over Fair Catch Williams.
ok, our worst draft was the draft which followed oj simpsons arrival to the team because,,WE HAD NO DRAFT PICKS
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 5280High:
Jesus f*cking Christ, people still b***hing about that draft... nailing 2 out of 3 drafts is a pretty damn good record and I'd be ecstatic he continues to nail 2 out of every 3.

Get over it, that draft also gave us some good players this year and LMJ is still gonna be a force in the coming years, Jenkins has been replaced with Baldwin who looks alright and we are still considered one of the model franchises. Its impossible to bat a thousand year over year, but we have some great starters and allot of depth.. some "fans" dont know how good we got it and think everything is a Madden game.

Also remains to be seen what Looney can do, don't think anyone expected him to come in and be a starter right off the bat but there will come a time when they will need him to contribute so everyone will see what he's got. As far as James, I think he's just completely being misused, I think he's got a lot of talent, explosiveness, that kick return against the Patriots was a thing of beauty, there's nobody else on this roster with that sort of explosiveness, at this point, I'm all for making James the kick and punt returner over Fair Catch Williams.
ok, our worst draft was the draft which followed oj simpsons arrival to the team because,,WE HAD NO DRAFT PICKS

Wow they gave all that up for an over the hill OJ? That was before my time, but wow!
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by xela510:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Probably the worst draft i've seen in my lifetime. Only one guy left within 2 years who barely makes the active roster.

AJ Jenkins was the worst pick in 49ers and arguably NFL history.

Jamarcus Russel is indeed the worst pick in NFL History

He goes #1 and the following players go after him

Calvin Johnson
Joe Thomas
Adrian Peterson
Patrick Willis
Darrelle Revis

all potential HOF'ers

then you have

Marshawn Lynch
Eric Weddle
Joe Staley
Dwayne Bowe

also in that draft
That was a good draft for us. We got both Willis and Staley.

don't forget RayMac, Goldson and T. Brown...Man that was an awesome draft by the drunk.
That was a kick a$$ draft! I agree that they should use LaMike properly, he can be a very explosive player. You just have to put him in space, and let him do his thing. I am surprised he is not being used at KR. I think they sacrificed the 2012 draft for a great 2013 draft. They traded down out of a lot of picks.
I'm just going to hold out hope that with the sure departure of Dixon next season there will be a few more carries available for James. Perhaps by some miracle he improves as a punt returner as well because I truly believe the staff WANTS him to take that job from Kyle Williams. There is a role available for James. If he can work on his return game, he can be the primary returner, and if he shows anything as a pass catcher, he should be able to leap frog the receivers we currently have as targets.
Seeing Danny Woodhead in this MNF game makes me wonder why Roman won't create a package of plays especially for LMJ.
Maybe with Mario coming back soon they'll cut Williams & LMJ will be primary returner? Maybe Jim's kiss of death was for Kyle rather than LMJ?
When is this bum going to get traded? Dude is dead weight. Once Lattimore gets back, he becomes even more dispensable.














Its like the 2012 draft class cant get on the field to save their lives.
[ Edited by 5times on Oct 14, 2013 at 8:21 PM ]
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm just going to hold out hope that with the sure departure of Dixon next season there will be a few more carries available for James. Perhaps by some miracle he improves as a punt returner as well because I truly believe the staff WANTS him to take that job from Kyle Williams. There is a role available for James. If he can work on his return game, he can be the primary returner, and if he shows anything as a pass catcher, he should be able to leap frog the receivers we currently have as targets.

There is a time and a place for the fair catch but if I see one more wave of the hand from Kyle "the yawn" Williams, I'm gonna puke. Put James in PLEASE!
Originally posted by AUniner:
Maybe with Mario coming back soon they'll cut Williams & LMJ will be primary returner? Maybe Jim's kiss of death was for Kyle rather than LMJ?

Moore would be cut first
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Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
Seeing Danny Woodhead in this MNF game makes me wonder why Roman won't create a package of plays especially for LMJ.

Harbaugh and Roman need to lock themselves in the film room and look at about 10 New Orleans Saints games to see how Sean Peyton uses Darren Sproles. Peyton is the best offensive mind in the game, IMO. Even when Sproles was not available, Peyton used Reggie Bush in the best assortment of screens and swing passes in the league. (Andy Reid and Jamaal Charles/Dexter McCluster is another example.)

James was a very productive back in college running much the same kind of plays as Peyton runs in NO. Why Baalke/Harbaugh selected this guy is a puzzle to me. It is like giving a kid a new techy toy but giving him no instructions on how to use it. HaRo do not appear to have a clue as to how to use James. When they could be lining him up in the backfield along with Gore, they bring in another TE and Miller and just try to pound it up the middle. The threat of James in the wings and on play action screens could add an entire new dimension to the offense. Not only that, it would spread the defense out and allow more room for Gore to run the plays he prefers.

All this patronizing talk on the networks about how creative Roman is sometimes makes me a little ill. Yes, he does have some sets that are different but in terms of taking advantage of the talent available, he is missing the boat when it comes to James.
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Originally posted by Sourball:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
I'm just going to hold out hope that with the sure departure of Dixon next season there will be a few more carries available for James. Perhaps by some miracle he improves as a punt returner as well because I truly believe the staff WANTS him to take that job from Kyle Williams. There is a role available for James. If he can work on his return game, he can be the primary returner, and if he shows anything as a pass catcher, he should be able to leap frog the receivers we currently have as targets.

There is a time and a place for the fair catch but if I see one more wave of the hand from Kyle "the yawn" Williams, I'm gonna puke. Put James in PLEASE!

Often the decision to make a fair catch is determined before he even gets on the field. It there is a block on, the fair catch is an automatic call. There are also keys the returner reads that determine the fair catch. It may also be the case that Harbaugh has such confidence in the defense and Andy Lee that he is willing to play a field position game rather than take a chance on a punt return that might injure one of the few decent WRs on the team.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
Seeing Danny Woodhead in this MNF game makes me wonder why Roman won't create a package of plays especially for LMJ.

Harbaugh and Roman need to lock themselves in the film room and look at about 10 New Orleans Saints games to see how Sean Peyton uses Darren Sproles. Peyton is the best offensive mind in the game, IMO. Even when Sproles was not available, Peyton used Reggie Bush in the best assortment of screens and swing passes in the league. (Andy Reid and Jamaal Charles/Dexter McCluster is another example.)

James was a very productive back in college running much the same kind of plays as Peyton runs in NO. Why Baalke/Harbaugh selected this guy is a puzzle to me. It is like giving a kid a new techy toy but giving him no instructions on how to use it. HaRo do not appear to have a clue as to how to use James. When they could be lining him up in the backfield along with Gore, they bring in another TE and Miller and just try to pound it up the middle. The threat of James in the wings and on play action screens could add an entire new dimension to the offense. Not only that, it would spread the defense out and allow more room for Gore to run the plays he prefers.

All this patronizing talk on the networks about how creative Roman is sometimes makes me a little ill. Yes, he does have some sets that are different but in terms of taking advantage of the talent available, he is missing the boat when it comes to James.

Exactly. One example of a play Saints and Chargers use with Sproles/Woodhead (especially on 3rd downs) is shotgun/pistol with single back...right at the snap they are full speed to the LOS, and it's hard for the LB to pick them up right away...at that point they either keep going straight up the seam, or make a quit cut back towards the middle or sideline, QB makes a quick pass hitting them just a few yards downfield, but in space and giving them a chance to "create". LMJ is tailor-made to run this same type of play, among others...but he's sorta got be on the field, or active for that matter.
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Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by 21SandersMoss84:
Seeing Danny Woodhead in this MNF game makes me wonder why Roman won't create a package of plays especially for LMJ.

Harbaugh and Roman need to lock themselves in the film room and look at about 10 New Orleans Saints games to see how Sean Peyton uses Darren Sproles. Peyton is the best offensive mind in the game, IMO. Even when Sproles was not available, Peyton used Reggie Bush in the best assortment of screens and swing passes in the league. (Andy Reid and Jamaal Charles/Dexter McCluster is another example.)

James was a very productive back in college running much the same kind of plays as Peyton runs in NO. Why Baalke/Harbaugh selected this guy is a puzzle to me. It is like giving a kid a new techy toy but giving him no instructions on how to use it. HaRo do not appear to have a clue as to how to use James. When they could be lining him up in the backfield along with Gore, they bring in another TE and Miller and just try to pound it up the middle. The threat of James in the wings and on play action screens could add an entire new dimension to the offense. Not only that, it would spread the defense out and allow more room for Gore to run the plays he prefers.

All this patronizing talk on the networks about how creative Roman is sometimes makes me a little ill. Yes, he does have some sets that are different but in terms of taking advantage of the talent available, he is missing the boat when it comes to James.

Exactly. One example of a play Saints and Chargers use with Sproles/Woodhead (especially on 3rd downs) is shotgun/pistol with single back...right at the snap they are full speed to the LOS, and it's hard for the LB to pick them up right away...at that point they either keep going straight up the seam, or make a quit cut back towards the middle or sideline, QB makes a quick pass hitting them just a few yards downfield, but in space and giving them a chance to "create". LMJ is tailor-made to run this same type of play, among others...but he's sorta got be on the field, or active for that matter.

We are in full agreement, however, I have never seen the 49ers run that kind of play since Harbaugh has been here. It doesn't appear they have any feel for that kind of play. It appears they are satisfied with James as a backup returned. Total waste of a 2nd round pick.