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49ers sign Mario Manningham

Originally posted by Raul98:
I have 2 points

1. As far as Manningham goes i feel bad for the guy hes a good dude and he was decent when he was playing. Hes not a make or brake receiver so letting him go at the end of the season isn't a huge deal. Hes not worth the cap money he cant stay healthy he can easily be replaced in the draft or FA.

2. My second point is a slightly off topic but worth mentioning now we have no real 3rd receiver this type of sh*t falls on Balkee he knew we were going to be short handed at receiver and did nothing about it. Boldin was more the 2 Harbaugh brothers.

Patton and Mcdonald and Osgood are in no way ready for a play off push right now but what makes me mad is Balkee knew we were very thin at receivers and good players for example Kennan Allen 66 Receptions 957 and 8 TD's were RIGHT THERE! on the board and Balkee drafts Mcdonald instead and players who never even saw the field this year. Knowing your so thin at a position and you do very little about it is confusing to me. And im afraid next year will be the same. They will cheap out not sign Boldin and his replacement will be another AJ Jenkins in the draft. I hope Harbaugh and staff have a more hands on approach on who we sign and don't not just Balkee.

Uh...that's not true, we lost Crabs in camp...not before the draft and we hadn't given up on Jenkins at that point. We then drafted a kid in addition to adding Bolden and knowing Rio would come around at some point....we were also short a tight end. Amazing how easy it is to revise history.
Originally posted by Raul98:
I'm just gonna come out and say it bring Moss back? for insurance to rotate with Patton.
No.
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Raul98:
I'm just gonna come out and say it bring Moss back? for insurance to rotate with Patton.
No.

But according to him he can still put up 17 tds a year lol
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by mattster03:
Josh Gordon would look real smart right about meow.

we don't know what they were asking for him. so until that comes out we can't say whether or not we should have got him.

what if they wanted to fleece all of our top draft picks for him?

and then we'd have to resign him... we just don't know.

what we do know is that at least they TRIED which is all we can ask..our team doesn't just sit idle. baalke tried and was in talks with the browns so there is that to be encouraged about.

look at all these teams who don't have anything and don't even try to get someone..

Was never even verified that he was available...it was a rumor people sight now as fact...
Manningham seemed to make the big catch in the most important games when he played for the Giants. Before his latest injury he was developing a chemistry with Kaep. Looking back on his career there was too much IR time. Patton has to make a few catches against the Cardinals before the playoffs.
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Raul98:
I'm just gonna come out and say it bring Moss back? for insurance to rotate with Patton.
No.

But according to him he can still put up 17 tds a year lol

And if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped.
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Originally posted by Raul98:
I'm just gonna come out and say it bring Moss back? for insurance to rotate with Patton.
No.

But according to him he can still put up 17 tds a year lol

And if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass when he hopped.

Dont forget Moss is the GOAT according to him.
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Originally posted by Raul98:
I have 2 points

1. As far as Manningham goes i feel bad for the guy hes a good dude and he was decent when he was playing. Hes not a make or brake receiver so letting him go at the end of the season isn't a huge deal. Hes not worth the cap money he cant stay healthy he can easily be replaced in the draft or FA.

2. My second point is a slightly off topic but worth mentioning now we have no real 3rd receiver this type of sh*t falls on Balkee he knew we were going to be short handed at receiver and did nothing about it. Boldin was more the 2 Harbaugh brothers.

Patton and Mcdonald and Osgood are in no way ready for a play off push right now but what makes me mad is Balkee knew we were very thin at receivers and good players for example Kennan Allen 66 Receptions 957 and 8 TD's were RIGHT THERE! on the board and Balkee drafts Mcdonald instead and players who never even saw the field this year. Knowing your so thin at a position and you do very little about it is confusing to me. And im afraid next year will be the same. They will cheap out not sign Boldin and his replacement will be another AJ Jenkins in the draft. I hope Harbaugh and staff have a more hands on approach on who we sign and don't not just Balkee.

After the rush of FA and the draft our depth chart was

Crabtree
Boldin
Jenkins
Patton
Williams
Manningham


plus camp bodies.

That isn't that "thin" or "bad" of a depth chart but then the injury to Crabtree happened when they finally traded Jenkins for Baldwin they knew they had someone that could at least so something worthwhile in the NFL.

Like the other poster said, at TE we had VD and a bunch of nobodies. At WR we were fine and just waiting to see how healthy The problem is actually that we don't develop/give opportunities to our younger players and backups. It is a philosophy that would've been perpetrated by Harbaugh/Roman and the rest of the offense no matter how Baalke drafted.

Can you imagine if we had picked Keenan Allen? He just told the media that after a dull training camp and preseason he honestly thought about walking away from football when he didn't do anything in Week 1 of the season. Now you can argue that money and sound mind won out but since Michael Floyd went down he got the opportunity he wanted and is playing insane now. He said he couldn't take being a role player because he had never done that.

Had we picked him for all we know he would've quit on the organization because of this belief of redshirting or easing our players in. I honestly believe Jenkins quit on the team as well, even if he wasn't physically fit for the nfll, he had history of self doubt and the team and his family had to pull teeth to get him to show something in the final 2 years of college. Then he comes the 9ers were they tell him he has to get in the weight room and redshirt his rookie year? Nobody wants to hear that kind of talk.

Even if people bring up Aldon being used as a pass rush specialist as a counterpoint to this, he still played more than 50% of the teams defensive snaps his rookie year. Why the team didn't put Jenkins in on special teams and freaskishly obvious passing situations is beyond me.


theres a top 5-10 receiver available lol
I think they rushed Mario back because of our lack of receivers at the time. I think if he could have come back 4 to 6 weeks later he might have been better off but hindsight is 20/20
Originally posted by Raul98:
Originally posted by kujon11:
Originally posted by Raul98:
I have 2 points

1. As far as Manningham goes i feel bad for the guy hes a good dude and he was decent when he was playing. Hes not a make or brake receiver so letting him go at the end of the season isn't a huge deal. Hes not worth the cap money he cant stay healthy he can easily be replaced in the draft or FA.

2. My second point is a slightly off topic but worth mentioning now we have no real 3rd receiver this type of sh*t falls on Balkee he knew we were going to be short handed at receiver and did nothing about it. Boldin was more the 2 Harbaugh brothers.

Patton and Mcdonald and Osgood are in no way ready for a play off push right now but what makes me mad is Balkee knew we were very thin at receivers and good players for example Kennan Allen 66 Receptions 957 and 8 TD's were RIGHT THERE! on the board and Balkee drafts Mcdonald instead and players who never even saw the field this year. Knowing your so thin at a position and you do very little about it is confusing to me. And im afraid next year will be the same. They will cheap out not sign Boldin and his replacement will be another AJ Jenkins in the draft. I hope Harbaugh and staff have a more hands on approach on who we sign and don't not just Balkee.

In his defense, we were tinner at TE than wide receiver going into training camp
True but that is cause they got cheap and didn't want to pay Walker say what you want about Walker but the dude could play look what he did for us last year. And Zach Ertz was also on the board and Niners passed on him a player from Harbaughs system at Standford who has better numbers so far this season than Mcdonald.

Love people who think that there is an infinite salary cap...cheap doesn't exist in the NFL anymore.
Healthy& speedy recovery for Manningham. I do believe he is done as a 49er after this season.
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
I think they rushed Mario back because of our lack of receivers at the time. I think if he could have come back 4 to 6 weeks later he might have been better off but hindsight is 20/20

Possibly, it's a different injury from what I heard...but often times when favoring one spot you hurt another.
Originally posted by tohara3:
Healthy& speedy recovery for Manningham. I do believe he is done as a 49er after this season.

Yeah,,,the writing is on the wall there.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by Raul98:
I have 2 points

1. As far as Manningham goes i feel bad for the guy hes a good dude and he was decent when he was playing. Hes not a make or brake receiver so letting him go at the end of the season isn't a huge deal. Hes not worth the cap money he cant stay healthy he can easily be replaced in the draft or FA.

2. My second point is a slightly off topic but worth mentioning now we have no real 3rd receiver this type of sh*t falls on Balkee he knew we were going to be short handed at receiver and did nothing about it. Boldin was more the 2 Harbaugh brothers.

Patton and Mcdonald and Osgood are in no way ready for a play off push right now but what makes me mad is Balkee knew we were very thin at receivers and good players for example Kennan Allen 66 Receptions 957 and 8 TD's were RIGHT THERE! on the board and Balkee drafts Mcdonald instead and players who never even saw the field this year. Knowing your so thin at a position and you do very little about it is confusing to me. And im afraid next year will be the same. They will cheap out not sign Boldin and his replacement will be another AJ Jenkins in the draft. I hope Harbaugh and staff have a more hands on approach on who we sign and don't not just Balkee.

After the rush of FA and the draft our depth chart was

Crabtree
Boldin
Bum Juice
Patton
Bum Juice
Bum Juice


plus camp bodies.

That isn't that "thin" or "bad" of a depth chart but then the injury to Crabtree happened when they finally traded Jenkins for Baldwin they knew they had someone that could at least so something worthwhile in the NFL.

Like the other poster said, at TE we had VD and a bunch of nobodies. At WR we were fine and just waiting to see how healthy The problem is actually that we don't develop/give opportunities to our younger players and backups. It is a philosophy that would've been perpetrated by Harbaugh/Roman and the rest of the offense no matter how Baalke drafted.

Can you imagine if we had picked Keenan Allen? He just told the media that after a dull training camp and preseason he honestly thought about walking away from football when he didn't do anything in Week 1 of the season. Now you can argue that money and sound mind won out but since Michael Floyd went down he got the opportunity he wanted and is playing insane now. He said he couldn't take being a role player because he had never done that.

Had we picked him for all we know he would've quit on the organization because of this belief of redshirting or easing our players in. I honestly believe Jenkins quit on the team as well, even if he wasn't physically fit for the nfll, he had history of self doubt and the team and his family had to pull teeth to get him to show something in the final 2 years of college. Then he comes the 9ers were they tell him he has to get in the weight room and redshirt his rookie year? Nobody wants to hear that kind of talk.

Even if people bring up Aldon being used as a pass rush specialist as a counterpoint to this, he still played more than 50% of the teams defensive snaps his rookie year. Why the team didn't put Jenkins in on special teams and freaskishly obvious passing situations is beyond me.

*fixed

If you knew this was our roster (except Patton) before the draft, then we should have been drafting WR early and often

I'm not sure this is a Baalke problem.... as good a GM as he is, I HIGHLY doubt he is that terrible at picking WRs... I just won't accept that

My guess is that Baalke isn't the only voice on draft day... and since Harbaugh prefers his WRs to block more often than not, I blame him for our terrible track record in drafting and developing WRs... Harbaugh wants to run smash mouth... he don't want no Chris Carters up in here, all they do is catch touchdowns!!
[ Edited by Big_Daddy on Dec 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM ]
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