Originally posted by boast:
f**k Dexter Manley!
This. Why didn't he bring this up when Walsh was still around? What a f*cking coward.
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Originally posted by boast:
f**k Dexter Manley!
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
McKittrick practically invented the low block at the knees. So yeah, the team did push the envelope of what's legal. Just ask Howie Long. It's no surprise that this accusation came from a defensive player. Which is strange for younger fans that wasn't from the 80's , because bounties are usually from the defensive side. But back in the 80's our offense was deemed by the league's defenses as 'finesse'. So imagine their surprise when they got owned physically by our offense. And usually their best defensive player was targeted. Dexter Manley, Mike Singletary, Lawrence Taylor, and others were all targeted to let them know they can't intimidate our offensive players. Tom Rathman embodied this attitude. Just because they are offensive players don't mean that they can't deliver a hit.
Walsh would design a play not necessarily just to gain yardage. Sometimes it's designed to knock the other team's best defensive player on his ass. So in a sense there was a bounty.
This is what Dexter Manley is really crying about as of late.
This is completely wrong, Micittrick did not invent the chop block, the old "high low", that my friend was a perfectly legal block from the time they invented the game until it was banned in the late 1980's! The chop was a key part of running the Green Bay sweep as taught by Vince Lombardi, that same sweep was the bread and butter of the Bill Walsh running attack. Blocking low is still legal, and as a coach I highly recommend it! Smaller fast O-linemen cutting fast aggressive defenders, is VERY effective when it comes to the run game. Nothing dirty about it.
Bill Walsh never wasted a play sending a message, he sent a message every play, the Niners small, fast, and fierce offensive lines, were a cornerstone to the dynasty!
Originally posted by fister30:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
I believe Dexter was the poster child for uneducated college athletes, wasn't he the guy who could not read, write or do basic math? Caused quite a scandal back then, as I believe he played 4-5 years of college ball!
Sprinkle a little cocaine on this story and you have Dexter's biography.
Originally posted by WillistheWall:Carmen never said they rewarded players in anyway for hurting people. In the rebuttal of that article Carmen denies they did any such thing. They may have incentives for tackles made and interceptions built into contracts, but not for taking out a player and hurting them. That and monetary rewards outside the contract of a player.
Meh it wouldn't surprise me if Walsh did have a pay/performance system going, where they rewarded guys for INTs, nice blocks, etc. I think Carmen Policy even admitted that they would reward guys for that stuff. Even hits like knock the wind out of a guy etc. But I think the big difference is the Saints attempted to seriously injure guys, which most teams didn't. I mean there is a video out there of Scott Fujita diving with his shoulder right at Steve Smith's knee, where he is more or less blatantly trying to rip up the guy's knee. He didn't succeed but the intent is still there. They were actively trying to injure Favre in that game, yeah most of the hits were legal but some of them were illegal too and those are the ones a person should have a problem with. Overall the whole 2 situations are quite a bit different. I doubt Bill Walsh ever paid Ronnie Lott to maim another player, although Ronnie injured some people on his own because he was a real tough player.
Originally posted by AthensGaNiner:
I love what Policy had to say about this: "If we had a bounty system for big hits, Ronnie Lott would own his own island in the Caribbean by now."
Manley has problems, and needs help.