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To me the contract demonstrates a mutually beneficial agreement. Kap didn't want to screw the franchise (e.g. Flacco), but he wanted a fair contract. I think both sides have to be satisfied with the final result.
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by 190836:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 190836:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by 190836:
Don't ever forget he was part of a team that brought you Nolan, Sing and years of misery.

Don't ever forget Walsh brought us Donahue.

Don't ever forget DeBartolo hired that scrub GM his first year.

s**t happens
Yeah, but Walsh and Eddie D brought us five SBs. Whats he done? Nothing!!!!

Marathe isn't the HC lol
You are the one who brought up Eddie D's example of Joe thomas's hiring. Was Eddie D a HC?. But ED set the path by hiring Bill Walsh and the rest is the history. What did this fool do? He and John York destroyed a once proud franchise for many years. Don't forget it.

What are you talking about?

**** Donahue. John York and Denise D. screwed up too, but Jed has turned it around. Paraag/Baalke/Harbs are doing fine under Jed.

We gotta give it some time before we start comparing Eddie D. (20 + years to win those Super Bowls). Let's see what Jed does (given 20+ years). Paraag works for Jed... when he was with John (what did you expect)
[ Edited by LVJay on Jun 6, 2014 at 7:12 PM ]
The cap, does anyone have specifics as to the negotiation rules and if there are any cut off dates. If there is no cut-off date, perhaps the direction that I would like to see the team navigate to is to try to negotiate another player's deal so that we take the cap hit this year, versus future years. Just something that could keep the cap in better shape for the long run, so the team can at least try to remain flexible with FA and drafting to keep the team competitive, just a perspective.


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Seeing as how this team has consistently been bad at replay challenges throughout the years, I wonder how much of this is still going on.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/10/23/the-curious-cases-of-heneghan-and-marathe-49ers-execs-doing-what-exactly/


As I've been reminded, in 2005, Marathe wrote what the 49ers brass termed a "How to Hire a Great Football Coach" guide during the search that resulted in Mike Nolan. He was very proud of it. Jed and John toted it around for weeks as if it were the Bible.

The hiring guide used regression analysis, historical models, statistical research, all that stuff… (Yes, the same methods that were used in 2003 and 2004 drafts, yielding Kwame Harris, Brandon Lloyd, Rashaun Woods)…

This system, Marathe told us in 2005, would of course lead to the hiring of THE PERFECT HEAD COACH. There was no smarter way to find a coach. He basically re-defined how to do it.

By hiring a man who had never been a head coach. Who had no idea about offense. Who had never run a personnel department.

THAT WAS THE PERFECT COACH?

That coach is now fired. His draft-analysis data hasn't seemed to help much, if McCloughan is using it or not, but if Marathe has Jed's ear, I'll bet McCloughan is using some of it.

Marathe is in that coaches booth and it doesn't seem like anybody can explain it or do anything about it. I hear again and again how others in the organization want him out of there, but there's no way to push back on Jed's buddy.

The replay-challenges are a joke. The timeouts are a joke. Nolan–Marathe's candidate–is now fired and not at all blamed for hiring Nolan.

And Marathe is more powerful than ever. He's involved with all aspects of the organization, more than ever, I'm told.

Um, Kawakami?

"The replay-challenges are a joke. The timeouts are a joke. Nolan–Marathe's candidate–is now fired and not at all blamed for hiring Nolan."

The final sentence doesn't make sense. People who aspire to possibly becoming journalists need to work on the English language. What I assume what he meant to say was, Nolan, who was Marathe's candidate, is now fired and Marathe has not been blamed for hiring him.

Happy to proofread your stuff in future, Timmy.

But like most of his other work it is largely invention and supposition.
Originally posted by English:
Um, Kawakami?

"The replay-challenges are a joke. The timeouts are a joke. Nolan–Marathe's candidate–is now fired and not at all blamed for hiring Nolan."

The final sentence doesn't make sense. People who aspire to possibly becoming journalists need to work on the English language. What I assume what he meant to say was, Nolan, who was Marathe's candidate, is now fired and Marathe has not been blamed for hiring him.

Happy to proofread your stuff in future, Timmy.

But like most of his other work it is largely invention and supposition.


A lot of this has been reported by other sources. Marathe has been well known to go into the coaches box during games, he also was heavily involved with the Nolan coaching search and developed the parameters for the "ideal star coach" during that search, also Walsh and McVay resented him because he turned down their draft moves due to his computer analysis indicating that they were not good ones....and then the 49ers went on to pick guys like Rashaun Woods.

I think its pretty clear that for a guy whose strengths are in regards to the business side of things and the salary cap, he has been far too involved in football and game management decisions.
Don't forget the Field Management Guide.

He may be a great cap guy but I am not impressed with his draft analytics, head coaching candidate analysis, clock guru work etc.
The only success under him and Jed has come with Harbaugh.
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We know he's the team President, cap architect, lead contract negotiator, and heads the analytics department. Anybody know why he doesn't get more attention publicly? How much power does he hold in the 49ers hierarchy? I've seen it speculated that he's above Baalke and played an even bigger role in the Harbaugh dysfunction. We haven't heard him do any interviews unless it's a Sloan Conference. If he's so powerful, how come we don't hear from him more?
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re-post from other thread

We know he's the team President, cap architect, lead contract negotiator, and heads the analytics department. Anybody know why he doesn't get more attention publicly? How much power does he hold in the 49ers hierarchy? I've seen it speculated that he's above Baalke and played an even bigger role in the Harbaugh dysfunction. We haven't heard him do any interviews unless it's a Sloan Conference. If he's so powerful, how come we don't hear from him more?

Maybe he isn't.

It's all just speculation.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Seeing as how this team has consistently been bad at replay challenges throughout the years, I wonder how much of this is still going on.

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/10/23/the-curious-cases-of-heneghan-and-marathe-49ers-execs-doing-what-exactly/


As I've been reminded, in 2005, Marathe wrote what the 49ers brass termed a "How to Hire a Great Football Coach" guide during the search that resulted in Mike Nolan. He was very proud of it. Jed and John toted it around for weeks as if it were the Bible.

The hiring guide used regression analysis, historical models, statistical research, all that stuff… (Yes, the same methods that were used in 2003 and 2004 drafts, yielding Kwame Harris, Brandon Lloyd, Rashaun Woods)…

This system, Marathe told us in 2005, would of course lead to the hiring of THE PERFECT HEAD COACH. There was no smarter way to find a coach. He basically re-defined how to do it.

By hiring a man who had never been a head coach. Who had no idea about offense. Who had never run a personnel department.

THAT WAS THE PERFECT COACH?

That coach is now fired. His draft-analysis data hasn't seemed to help much, if McCloughan is using it or not, but if Marathe has Jed's ear, I'll bet McCloughan is using some of it.

Marathe is in that coaches booth and it doesn't seem like anybody can explain it or do anything about it. I hear again and again how others in the organization want him out of there, but there's no way to push back on Jed's buddy.

The replay-challenges are a joke. The timeouts are a joke. Nolan–Marathe's candidate–is now fired and not at all blamed for hiring Nolan.

And Marathe is more powerful than ever. He's involved with all aspects of the organization, more than ever, I'm told.


This guy needs to stick to the cap, but Apparently that is not happening. The more time that goes along the more I have come to accept that the JH era was not the norm for the Niner FO...all the other York years appear to be the norm.
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Originally posted by English:
Maybe he isn't.

It's all just speculation.

Keep in mind that he got a promotion to President of the 49ers about the same time that things started to become public about the blowup between the front office and Harbaugh. There were some reported conflicts between the FO and Harbaugh about the new stadium (locker room use on non-game days, sunny vs shady side of the field, not rescheduling practice to attend stadium event, etc). Marathe was clearly in charge of the stadium project.

Marathe also negotiates all contracts for the 49ers, not the general manager.

Does anyone doubt that Marathe, with his position as 49er president, with a history of steady moveup in the organization wields a high degree of power in the organization.

If his position was business only I would not have expected too much of a problem, but clearly he is not limited to that with his participation in several places to on field activities. Now considering Harbaughs focus on details and having developed his plans, and considering Marathes participation in a number of areas tied to analytics (review calls, on field guide, coach recruitment), it is not surprising that these two would come into major conflict. It is also not surprising that in such a conflict that York would side with Marathe. It also fits with the comments that Balke was not the instigator of the conflict, but was Harbaugh's last defender in the FO.

It is also interesting that many of the leaks established the conflict between Harbaugh and Balke. I would not expect any leaks orchestrated by Balke to say that, but would not be surprised in they were orchestrated by Marathe.
Originally posted by rdc1:
sunny vs shady side of the field,



Something to look for on Sunday. Is the team going to cater to the high rollers or will they do right by the players and force the Packers to sit in the direct sun????
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Something to look for on Sunday. Is the team going to cater to the high rollers or will they do right by the players and force the Packers to sit in the direct sun????

I think at this point it is too late for them to change the home side. That decision had to be made before they sold the seat licenses and identified which side of the field was the 49ers side. However, it was certainly a point of contention between Harbaugh and the Office. The good news for the team is that it would not be easy for the team to make the change now that Harbaugh is gone.
Originally posted by rdc1:
Originally posted by English:
Maybe he isn't.

It's all just speculation.

Keep in mind that he got a promotion to President of the 49ers about the same time that things started to become public about the blowup between the front office and Harbaugh. There were some reported conflicts between the FO and Harbaugh about the new stadium (locker room use on non-game days, sunny vs shady side of the field, not rescheduling practice to attend stadium event, etc). Marathe was clearly in charge of the stadium project.

Marathe also negotiates all contracts for the 49ers, not the general manager.

Does anyone doubt that Marathe, with his position as 49er president, with a history of steady moveup in the organization wields a high degree of power in the organization.

If his position was business only I would not have expected too much of a problem, but clearly he is not limited to that with his participation in several places to on field activities. Now considering Harbaughs focus on details and having developed his plans, and considering Marathes participation in a number of areas tied to analytics (review calls, on field guide, coach recruitment), it is not surprising that these two would come into major conflict. It is also not surprising that in such a conflict that York would side with Marathe. It also fits with the comments that Balke was not the instigator of the conflict, but was Harbaugh's last defender in the FO.

It is also interesting that many of the leaks established the conflict between Harbaugh and Balke. I would not expect any leaks orchestrated by Balke to say that, but would not be surprised in they were orchestrated by Marathe.

This is exactly the angle people have ignored. Once he got promoted to President, things never seemed to improve.

A Michigan blog reported last year that Marathe was who Harbaugh wanted gone (moreso than Baalke).
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