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davidboutte
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I'm not sure how Patrick Willis contract was structured. By no means do I want him anywhere but SF for his whole career. I read the article many of you read saying we have about 30M in cap space for 2012. It also mentioned Willis 2012 cap number was 17.7 million. Many stars around the league have restructured their deals to help the team. It doesn't mean he gets paid less, just adjusts the cap number to free up money. His salary is slated to be around 7 million but that cap number....ouch!
Do you guys think this is a bad idea?
Can anyone explain in more detail how these things work?
Here is the link:
http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-figure-to-have-30-million-in-cap-s?blockID=648076&feedID=5936
[ Edited by davidboutte on Feb 11, 2012 at 12:25 PM ]
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Oakland-Niner
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we've turned Willis into a CB.
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Janitor
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AB83Rules is the guy to ask for details, but I don't think it will be a problem.
You don't ask your arguably best player to restructure.
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Niners23
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Better to take the cap hit now when we have enough cap room to compete for some FA than in later years. We're fine.
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Gore_21
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
we've turned Willis into a CB.
Kind of but you remember last year how much the tight ends and especially the screens killed us? This year we kind of took him out of the game BUT he it's probably worth it to take RBs who are great at catching the ball out of the game and then those TEs who are better than ever. Really the only one that did well against him was Graham. He shut down a lot of guys this year that would normally have killed us.
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LaMattsBlue
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We talked about this, restructuring would be to Willis' benefit. If he were to, they would push the guaranteed part into later years which Willis' would be all for. Re-structuring doesn't mean taking less money.
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susweel
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30 million in cap space should enough get everything we need done.
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davidboutte
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
we've turned Willis into a CB.
Kind of but you remember last year how much the tight ends and especially the screens killed us? This year we kind of took him out of the game BUT he it's probably worth it to take RBs who are great at catching the ball out of the game and then those TEs who are better than ever. Really the only one that did well against him was Graham. He shut down a lot of guys this year that would normally have killed us.
I think Willis is worth every penny. No matter what scheme we run, or how he is used. He is the face of the franchise IMO. My question was if there was a way it would be mutually beneficial to he and the team.
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Oakland-Niner
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
we've turned Willis into a CB.
Kind of but you remember last year how much the tight ends and especially the screens killed us? This year we kind of took him out of the game BUT he it's probably worth it to take RBs who are great at catching the ball out of the game and then those TEs who are better than ever. Really the only one that did well against him was Graham. He shut down a lot of guys this year that would normally have killed us.
I dont disagree and you can't argue with the results, but I was kind of hoping he would turn into a Ray Lewis type (roaming the feild and putting fear in offenses). As it stands, he's doing a great job, but this isn't how he became the 4 time probowler. I think this year he made it on his name alone.
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80849er4life
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Pay the Man what he wants.....if he wants the whole city of Santa Clara.....you give it to him no questions asked.....
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susweel
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
we've turned Willis into a CB.
Kind of but you remember last year how much the tight ends and especially the screens killed us? This year we kind of took him out of the game BUT he it's probably worth it to take RBs who are great at catching the ball out of the game and then those TEs who are better than ever. Really the only one that did well against him was Graham. He shut down a lot of guys this year that would normally have killed us.
I dont disagree and you can't argue with the results, but I was kind of hoping he would turn into a Ray Lewis type (roaming the feild and putting fear in offenses). As it stands, he's doing a great job, but this isn't how he became the 4 time probowler. I think this year he made it on his name alone.
He had a good year he was very effective in shutting down the middle of the field.
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Bryant4everYoung
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
we've turned Willis into a CB.
Kind of but you remember last year how much the tight ends and especially the screens killed us? This year we kind of took him out of the game BUT he it's probably worth it to take RBs who are great at catching the ball out of the game and then those TEs who are better than ever. Really the only one that did well against him was Graham. He shut down a lot of guys this year that would normally have killed us.
I dont disagree and you can't argue with the results, but I was kind of hoping he would turn into a Ray Lewis type (roaming the feild and putting fear in offenses). As it stands, he's doing a great job, but this isn't how he became the 4 time probowler. I think this year he made it on his name alone.
He had a good year he was very effective in shutting down the middle of the field.
Yeah, and lets not forget he was knicked up when he played Graham.
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Gore_21
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Originally posted by susweel:
He had a good year he was very effective in shutting down the middle of the field.
Yeah, agreed... I don't think he made it on his name alone. He pretty much shut down most of the other team's top guys by shadowing them or in the TEs case just covering them. He still did his thing in the run game. It's just the way we used him and that's a big reason why he didn't get those splash #s. Still 97 tackles, 4 FF, 2 Sacks and 1 int in 13 games while covering a good chunk of the time is a really good season.
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susweel
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by susweel:
He had a good year he was very effective in shutting down the middle of the field.
Yeah, agreed... I don't think he made it on his name alone. He pretty much shut down most of the other team's top guys by shadowing them or in the TEs case just covering them. He still did his thing in the run game. It's just the way we used him and that's a big reason why he didn't get those splash #s. Still 97 tackles, 4 FF, 2 Sacks and 1 int in 13 games while covering a good chunk of the time is a really good season.
and he missed like 4 games.
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PA9erFaithful
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Willis is the consummate team guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he approached the FO about restructuring to get us some more cap space.