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2011 Season Post-Mortem: Thoughts after watching the season and looking forward.....

Originally posted by lamontb:
Brooks is a shaky situation as well. He'a easily the best OLB on the team, and there is no depth behind him at all. What if come next year and Aldon still can't play OLB? Then they have massive hole in the front 7. I don't think it should take much to sign Brooks.

Well what do you think the draft and free agency are for? Lol, if we lost him, you really think we wouldn't bring in a replacement or 2?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, Brooks is a must sign, no doubt. Only Ware, Smith, Suggs, Hali, Barwin, Miller, Barnes, Harrison, Orakpo, Woodley & Wake had more sacks and almost all of these guys are featured WILL OLB's. Brooks also lead the team in TFL, was, by far our best OLB run supporter at sealing the edge and overall, was our best coverage OLB (with or without S help). He did all the dirty work AND got the pressure/hits/sacks we needed. But the most important thing to note is that he and Justin Smith were the most durable taking almost every snap of 2011 and throughout the playoffs...the first time in his career. And he played, virtually, straight up all year with constant double-teamings opening up other guys such as the more flashy, Condor. What's important to note is that this is his first year as a starter and if we can sign him long term, no doubt he will play even better next year knowing the type of condition he needs to be in. Hopefully we can sign him LT, give him that security and vote of confidence and draft another OLB to spell him and Condor and keep them both fresh. But you just don't let a guy with 8 sacks at the SAM position who leads the team with TFL and is 6th on the team in total tackles walk. The team had already offered he and others contracts but they will probably test the market. Hopefully he will choose to stay and gets a fair deal.

IMO, you're overrating Brooks. He is not a "must sign." For the right price, sure. He's a nice player. But some team will likely see how legendary our defense was and see his 7 sacks and overpay to get him. He is a nice player, but he is not worth breaking the bank for. We could let him walk and bring in a draft pick and/or a free agent and the sky would not fall.
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, Brooks is a must sign, no doubt. Only Ware, Smith, Suggs, Hali, Barwin, Miller, Barnes, Harrison, Orakpo, Woodley & Wake had more sacks and almost all of these guys are featured WILL OLB's. Brooks also lead the team in TFL, was, by far our best OLB run supporter at sealing the edge and overall, was our best coverage OLB (with or without S help). He did all the dirty work AND got the pressure/hits/sacks we needed. But the most important thing to note is that he and Justin Smith were the most durable taking almost every snap of 2011 and throughout the playoffs...the first time in his career. And he played, virtually, straight up all year with constant double-teamings opening up other guys such as the more flashy, Condor. What's important to note is that this is his first year as a starter and if we can sign him long term, no doubt he will play even better next year knowing the type of condition he needs to be in. Hopefully we can sign him LT, give him that security and vote of confidence and draft another OLB to spell him and Condor and keep them both fresh. But you just don't let a guy with 8 sacks at the SAM position who leads the team with TFL and is 6th on the team in total tackles walk. The team had already offered he and others contracts but they will probably test the market. Hopefully he will choose to stay and gets a fair deal.

IMO, you're overrating Brooks. He is not a "must sign." For the right price, sure. He's a nice player. But some team will likely see how legendary our defense was and see his 7 sacks and overpay to get him. He is a nice player, but he is not worth breaking the bank for. We could let him walk and bring in a draft pick and/or a free agent and the sky would not fall.

Agree to disagree on this one friend. Brooks played a marathon season and Aldon played a sprint. Aldon is a very exciting OLB with a ton of potential but he was really only asked to do one thing and he did it exceptionally. Brooks on the other hand RIGHT NOW, is the best complete OLB we have by far.

You don't let a SAM OLB who played every down for you, took most of the double teams all year (allowing others to shine), had 8 sacks, was 1st in TFL (12), 3rd in QB pressures with 46 and 6th in total tackles walk. In one season he produced more than Manny Lawson did his entire career. And btw: this was his FIRST year under VF and as a FT starter. He also was our best coverage OLB and made many of the plays (but may not have gotten the stats to boot - ala Justin Smith; the only other guy who took every snap last year). This team values him greatly enough to offer him one of the first contracts months ago.

But who do you honestly think could replace that kind of production for next year? Name one other SAM in the entire NFL who had a better (well rounded) year.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-review-Linebackers?blockID=642700&feedID=5936
[ Edited by NCommand on Feb 1, 2012 at 3:15 PM ]
i would like for the team to go after nicks, then pick up a WR in the draft.. i think that would really work next year with our offense... i'm just saying

staley, iupati, goodwin, nicks, davis, ( this OLINE WOULD BE BEASTY!!!! )
then
davis and morgan/crabtree/ 1st round draft pick wr. maybe floyd or wright

would keep williams and ginn as 4th and 5th wide outs

OR maybe pick up Garcon from colts at a good price.
[ Edited by bleeds9ersredandgold on Feb 1, 2012 at 6:42 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by andes14:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, Brooks is a must sign, no doubt. Only Ware, Smith, Suggs, Hali, Barwin, Miller, Barnes, Harrison, Orakpo, Woodley & Wake had more sacks and almost all of these guys are featured WILL OLB's. Brooks also lead the team in TFL, was, by far our best OLB run supporter at sealing the edge and overall, was our best coverage OLB (with or without S help). He did all the dirty work AND got the pressure/hits/sacks we needed. But the most important thing to note is that he and Justin Smith were the most durable taking almost every snap of 2011 and throughout the playoffs...the first time in his career. And he played, virtually, straight up all year with constant double-teamings opening up other guys such as the more flashy, Condor. What's important to note is that this is his first year as a starter and if we can sign him long term, no doubt he will play even better next year knowing the type of condition he needs to be in. Hopefully we can sign him LT, give him that security and vote of confidence and draft another OLB to spell him and Condor and keep them both fresh. But you just don't let a guy with 8 sacks at the SAM position who leads the team with TFL and is 6th on the team in total tackles walk. The team had already offered he and others contracts but they will probably test the market. Hopefully he will choose to stay and gets a fair deal.

IMO, you're overrating Brooks. He is not a "must sign." For the right price, sure. He's a nice player. But some team will likely see how legendary our defense was and see his 7 sacks and overpay to get him. He is a nice player, but he is not worth breaking the bank for. We could let him walk and bring in a draft pick and/or a free agent and the sky would not fall.

Agree to disagree on this one friend. Brooks played a marathon season and Aldon played a sprint. Aldon is a very exciting OLB with a ton of potential but he was really only asked to do one thing and he did it exceptionally. Brooks on the other hand RIGHT NOW, is the best complete OLB we have by far.

You don't let a SAM OLB who played every down for you, took most of the double teams all year (allowing others to shine), had 8 sacks, was 1st in TFL (12), 3rd in QB pressures with 46 and 6th in total tackles walk. In one season he produced more than Manny Lawson did his entire career. And btw: this was his FIRST year under VF and as a FT starter. He also was our best coverage OLB and made many of the plays (but may not have gotten the stats to boot - ala Justin Smith; the only other guy who took every snap last year). This team values him greatly enough to offer him one of the first contracts months ago.

But who do you honestly think could replace that kind of production for next year? Name one other SAM in the entire NFL who had a better (well rounded) year.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-review-Linebackers?blockID=642700&feedID=5936
The Niners should resign Brooks even if they have to over pay ALITTLE not to much, then they should draft a OLB this year and when parys contract ( i think he has 2 more years) is up let him walk and then we could have brooks bowman willis and smith. with a new OLB or MLB for depth.
Originally posted by bleeds9ersredandgold:
The Niners should resign Brooks even if they have to over pay ALITTLE not to much, then they should draft a OLB this year and when parys contract ( i think he has 2 more years) is up let him walk and then we could have brooks bowman willis and smith. with a new OLB or MLB for depth.

That would certainly be ideal, no doubt. Parys/Smith played well in their roles but now Aldon will have a full offseason on conditioning and learning how to be an every down WILL. If he becomes that WILL, do NOT expect him to have the same sack numbers he did this year. Remember, it's much easier for an OL to block you if he faces you every down and esp. if you are playing straight up (and has film on you like what happened to Haralson after his 8 sack season). But with all four LBers, there is a ton of skills and versatility. VF will have to be more creative to keep all four clean, exploit mismatches and destroy the QB! Both Smith/Brooks can play on the DL (anywhere) or OLB (on or off the LOS), and Brooks can also play TED/MIKE and rush from there. I imagine VF can start looking to move Willis/Bowman outside as well to create additional mismatches and confusion for the offense. The sky's the limit!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Agree to disagree on this one friend. Brooks played a marathon season and Aldon played a sprint. Aldon is a very exciting OLB with a ton of potential but he was really only asked to do one thing and he did it exceptionally. Brooks on the other hand RIGHT NOW, is the best complete OLB we have by far.

You don't let a SAM OLB who played every down for you, took most of the double teams all year (allowing others to shine), had 8 sacks, was 1st in TFL (12), 3rd in QB pressures with 46 and 6th in total tackles walk. In one season he produced more than Manny Lawson did his entire career. And btw: this was his FIRST year under VF and as a FT starter. He also was our best coverage OLB and made many of the plays (but may not have gotten the stats to boot - ala Justin Smith; the only other guy who took every snap last year). This team values him greatly enough to offer him one of the first contracts months ago.

But who do you honestly think could replace that kind of production for next year? Name one other SAM in the entire NFL who had a better (well rounded) year.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/niners-talk/post/49ers-review-Linebackers?blockID=642700&feedID=5936

First of all, he had 7 sacks, not 8 (and only 1 over final 6 games)...also, he was barely ever, if ever, double teamed. We got J. Smith, A. Smith, Sopoaga, and McDonald...o-coordinators aren't sitting there saying that BROOKS is the guy they need to double...in our nickel D where we have the Smiths, RayMac, and Brooks on the d-line, teams aren't saying "ok, left tackle, take Aldon, left guard, block Justin, center, you got RayMac....but I want the right guard AND the right tackle to block Brooks." That's just not how teams prepare for us. The Smiths, Sope, and RayMac all saw FAR more double teams than Brooks...whether it be 2 o-linemen, or a TE or back chipping. And although he played most snaps, let's not get carried away here by saying he played EVERY snap...i.e. he certainly wouldn't be on the field when we ran our 3-2-6 dime D.
[ Edited by andes14 on Feb 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM ]
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