Originally posted by Joecool:Originally posted by dtg_9er:Originally posted by Joecool:So how does that explain the better QB's with first year WR's or WR's they never worked with before?
49ers don't have the greatest talent at WR, but we do have a lot of talent overall at the position. We also have a running game where teams play 8 or 9 in the box. That makes it even easier to pass. Drew Brees has been playing extremely well since his 2nd year in the league. He also went through OC turnover and Head Coach turnover in his first 4 years.
This is a case by case situation but there are factors that involve Smith's limitations and that don't. For instance, QBs who have exceedingly strong arms can wait a bit longer for their guys to come open. This may be a big factor in helping young talented receivers succeed. On the other hand, if a team has been set for some years they can welcome a young guy in and include him with the vets.
Cruz (2nd year) is a good example of a young guy being successful. UDFA did not play much in 2010 due to hamstring. Why has he succeeded? Eli has been in the system for years with the same coach, a young burner comes in and does well in his second year. Who is Smith's Cruz? Williams? He didn't even get to the second team until injuries moved him up and now he is injured.
To put this in perspective, Jerry Rice was drafted 16th overall and caught 8 passes his first 8 games...not per game, but total. He finished with 49 total catches playing with the best QB in history. That was a great first year for a WR in those days but he was criticized for drops and lack of production. Every picture (or player) has a story.
Williams has Cruz-like talent. If he were on another team and used as an example of another QB doing well with him, the excuse would be that look at how good that team's WR's are in that Williams wasn't even able to crack the starting roster until injuries bumped him up.
To another post above about 1 or 2 WR's along with a TE. Brees only had Gates and 1 other slightly above average TE early on but he produced. Alex has had Vernon + another 1000+ WR but ALL of them suddenly diminished while Smith was their QB. I have listed the WR's who got 1000 yards the year prior to working with Alex Smith.
Also consider Delanie Walker, the brain of our receivers/tight ends. A coach like Belichick with Tom Brady would do wonders with this kid and his smarts. Harbaugh used him as a very effective key cog in our offense. Some of you only see their stats but don't see how dangerous these guys are or can be. To me, Alex is the only one holding these guys back as the evidence has been there every year with the actual talent around him.
Calvin Johnson? Why didn't Shaun Hill do with Calvin that Stafford did? Why did Hill only equal his stats he had with the 49ers with Calvin? QB's need to get the ball to, I can't stress this more, an NFL open receiver. Alex does not.
You continue to ignore the injuries. Calvin Johnson was injured during the year Hill had to take over. Which explains his lower numbers but still way better than anyone of our WRs. I'm done responding to you. You just don't get how injuries play a big part in production. Until you can get that part of it, your arguments are invalid. Btw how many big gains and touchdowns did penalties by kwame Harris and others did we lose out on?