Originally posted by Natewillis2252:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Again I said not to bring up the SF and Philly bs and you did anyway. Just like the media cant forget the past so you watch his every move to make a story out of nothing. And im not comparing Owens playing career to Rice or Irvin's im pointing out the diva portion of it, most WR's are divas and whats in the past should stay in the past, to bring up what he did 10 years ago is dumb. And he was released my Dallas because they weren't winning in the playoffs and he was 34 years old with a huge contract, thats what the organization said, so that is fact to me, but people like yourself or iwaswrongrubber and media types will always say its because Owens has worn out his welcome and at 37 years old Cinncy was looking to go younger (bad example). And please don't question my love for Rice or any 49er, Rice is my favorite 49er of all time and always will but at the same time my point was all WR's are baby's and probably always will. Of course Owens did things that were over the top that aren't comparable to Rice and Irvin but again he did them 10 years ago! to compare the Owens in SF and Philly to the Owens in Dallas, Buffalo and Cincinnati is like comparing Saddam to Gandhi.
If you don't know the diff between Irvin/Rice yelling at their teammates and Owens, then I don't know what to tell you.
How many times was Irvin released because he didn't get along with his teammates? How many times was Rice released for that reason?
Owens wasn't released in SF (but he burned his bridges), but he was let go from Philly in the middel of the year, released in Dallas (the same team that kept Irvin when he was snorting Cocaine with Hookers), and freakin CINCINATTI didn't keep him.
Owens is the definition of a Cancer. To compare him to Irvin or Rice yelling at theur teammates tells me you simply don't understand.
I know I shouldn't be talking to a wall, because a wall doesn't listen, but here goes.
You cannot compare T.O. to Rice or Irvin -- and you did. You also cannot make the blanket statement that "most wide receivers are divas," because they're not. In fact, I'd venture to say that most of them are not. They are hardworking members of a team. I will back you up on the argument that, for a period in time, a lot of media attention was focused on the relatively few handful of diva-types -- which only served to create more and more of them.
Braylon Edwards was a DIVA. He still is very much a DIVA. This is why he's no longer playing NFL Football and I truly believe that San Francisco was Braylon's last stop. You just don't get that many chances in the NFL -- and Braylon has washed up and out in three locations. Ever heard of Three Strikes and You're Out? I don't think Braylon has, but he's going to find it very hard to latch on with a new team next season.
The NFL is doing its level best to shed the diva types from rosters. That's why Moss isn't playing anymore. It's why nobody is interested in T.O. It's why Braylon is now in street clothes. And it's one reason why Crabtree has worked so damn hard this season -- because he had that diva tag and wanted to shed it, badly. I think he has.
Everyone knows what a cancer T.O. was. Every player knows what a cancer he was. He's a lesson and example that other players don't want to follow. Because T.O. will never be remembered for his spectacular playing ability. He'll never been remembered for "The Catch II" that powered us past Green Bay. He won't be remembered for anything other than his stupid, silly antics and the fact that he was a locker room cancer.
Money had nothing to do with the fact why he washed up and out in Philly. It had nothing to do with why he washed up and out of Dallas, Cincy or Buffalo. You are deluding yourself if you think differently. T.O. was a stain on the NFL. That's what he was. It's all he'll ever be. Nobody wants him. Nobody will sign him. There's a reason why. It's not because he's washed up and his skills are gone. I don't think they are.
But you pay far too high a price for someone like that on your roster. The proof is in his track record. He just couldn't stop being a cancer. I don't feel sorry for him. In fact, I think he's an idiot. He wasted so much God given talent that it makes me shake my head.
But you're just plain wrong if you don't believe, for an instant, that T.O. was terrible for football.