Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Eskendale:
I honestly don't think any praise is truly due until Smith either sees double teams or makes a Von Miller / Clay Matthews impact. At best Aldon is an Ahmad Brooks, someone who comes off the bench and gets sacks (as he did playing for Manny Lawson); how is Ahmad doing now? Brooks certainly didn't translate his potential into a dominate season this year, although he's pretty solid. Our best pass rusher is Justin Smith, who gets most of the attention.
Makes me wonder if Aldon will pull a Suh when he starts to see double-teams and fails to dominate
WTF? This is one ignorant post newbie. Aldon can ONLY produce when he is on the field and when he is on the field, his presence is felt. That is all you can ask of a raw rookie right now and he is growing his overall game each week. I do agree we are over-praising him b/c many of those sacks have come d/t others getting double-teamed. But some have not and right now, he's providing consistent pressure and has made differences in games. To be fair and objective, I have noticed consistent pressure outside by all three OLB's all year and more often than not, the QB just steps up and throws or runs for gains up the middle and that should never happen with Sopoaga/Willis/Bowman in the middle of the field. If we get that Ngata-type in the middle of the field (a guy who can not only command double teams, stuff the run but also gets a consistent middle push as a two-gapper, those plays go for big time sacks, QB hurries, TO's and 3 and outs. Your comments on Brooks are just straight ignorant. Until Fangio employs a more exotic scheme, the front five is playing about as vanilla and straight-up as it comes and is still producing quite well given those circumstances esp. when you consider guys such as Brooks and Justin Smith are playing every single snap under constant double teams and are still leading the team in TFL, QB hits/pressures/hurries, sacks, tackles and are critical in sealing the edges in leading the #1 ranked rush defense. They are making TONS of plays despite not showing up in the stats categories.
I am not a newbie, and I have been on this forum for about six years, but my old name Stillincollege had been deleted due to inactivity with posting. No need to disqualify my statements through an inaccurate assumption :P.
It's obvious that Fangio could manufacture sacks through scheme, but I don't think that is how we need to play our defense in order to get a pass-rush at this point.
The topic was pass-rush, it wasn't overall effectiveness in our defense. I didn't mention all the forced fumbles or stoutness in run-defense that Ahmad brooks showed in coming off the bench in years past. The reason why we drafted Aldon Smith was because we wanted the anti-Manny Lawson, someone who could pass-rush. I made a direct comparison between Aldon and Ahmad because many in Ninertalk gushed over his pass-rushing ability as if he'd be the second coming of Reggie White, opining that he just needed more time on the field (whom does that remind you of?).
In the four games we had against good teams, the Lions, the Giants, the Cowboys, and Ravens, only in the Lions game could I single out Aldon as a main reason why we won. On the whole, our pass-rush failed in the other three games, where Eli beat himself, Flacco enjoyed Thanksgiving without any form of harassment, and Romo had time to carve us up. 49ers teams in the past have enjoyed sack-number inflation through playing woeful teams such as the Rams and others, but as fans we've all lamented the fact that in big games the pass-rush doesn't usually show up.
Aldon is a good player, we already agreed on the notion of giving over-excessive praise, and this is the only point that matters. In no way did I disparage our defense's performance, and my comment about Brooks had more to do with his past role as a situational pass-rusher (similar to Aldon) and how pass-rushing becomes more much difficult once you are actually a starter and start seeing double-teams here and there. Indeed, Aldon has been contributing to our overall defense, otherwise he'd be riding the bench right now. Does that make him a great role player? Absolutely. Does that make him a great player? No, because most great players play 3 downs, make sacks in the 4th quarter like a DeMarcus Ware or tips like a Justin Smith when the gas-tank is on empty; he hasn't proven any of these things yet. Aldon Smith is a block in the 49ers' victory arch right now, but not the keystone of this defense! When he warrants such status as a pass-rusher, even as a situational pass-rusher, he deserves all the praise he can get.
We are all 49ers fans here, so we hope, as homers, that Aldon will be the next best thing since sliced bread