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Aldon Smith vs Oher

  • sfout
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Originally posted by Shaj:
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
That was really sweet! It seemed everytime aldon was in he was able to put some heat on...no idea why they used him so little but there's no excuse outside of injury.

he's being used the same way we used Fred Dean and Charles Haley, right? 3rd down pass rushers...

interesting fact for you. 4 of Aldon's sacks are on 1st down, 1 on second down, and 2.5 on 3rd down.
Originally posted by sfout:
interesting fact for you. 4 of Aldon's sacks are on 1st down, 1 on second down, and 2.5 on 3rd down.
That stat is kind of meaningless in this argument. Just because he said 3rd down dies not onlyon that down he also said like haley and dean who were just pass rush specialist.
Originally posted by trogdor:
Did anyone else see the play when Smith put Oher on his backside? Smith didn't do a whole lot in the game, but I thought that play was pretty impressive. Kid clearly has a bright future.

I agree... Show alot of promise.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Ya that was pretty impressive especially considering Oher is in the 98th percentile in protective instincts.

Lol funny as he'll dude funny as hello !!!!
Originally posted by RDB4216:
He also had a pretty thunderous tackle late in the game. He's shown a lot of speed, now he's starting to show more strength too.

I actually think his strength is what makes him special. His ability to bend the corner is slightly above average, but his ability to drive the tackle backwards is what makes him unique.
  • GORO
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The little I saw of Aldon in the game, I wished he would stay in more.

Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Ya that was pretty impressive especially considering Oher is in the 98th percentile in protective instincts.

Nice, Blindside reference..
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Nov 26, 2011 at 8:04 AM ]
Originally posted by Shaj:
he's being used the same way we used Fred Dean and Charles Haley, right? 3rd down pass rushers...

Charles Haley was an ever down defender for the 49ers.
He still needs to hit the weight room for an entire off season. After one off season, Aldon will be kicking butt on a regular basis. Right now he can not stand up to the constant pounding of an every down OLB.
  • kush
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
He is what he is....a guy who is pretty much a 4-3 DE right now, which is his role in the nickle, when he comes in. He didn't show much in a pass rush last night, but made a couple good tackles on run plays (the one at the end of the 3rd quarter was solid). To me, last night was a mixed performance, but nothing that altered the team's fate.

He is a guy who shows bursts of excitement, but is not a consistent all-around player right now. His coverage skills are raw, and that is why he is almost completely limited to rushing off the edge in nickle situations.

In the last month, he is probably the fourth best OLB in this draft, behind Von Miller, Ryan Kerrigan, and Brooks Reed. These guys are making a larger impact than Smith, mostly due to the number of snaps. However, his career is young. I'd just like to see the 7th overall pick get on the field more.

You have a little write up like this in every Aldon Smith thread that comes up. It's like you're slowly trying to make yourself look correct, one thread and sack less game at a time. Just get over it please. He is not the 4th best OLB right now. You say he's inconsistent, I say he has had a tremendously positive impact when he's played and his playing time has been lessened by a lack of creativity and necessity on defense. Can you think of a play where he gets beaten badly? Gives up the edge and gives up a big run? Gets beaten in coverage? No, you just assume because he's not playing it's because he's not good and isn't worth the number 7 pick. Put a sock in it.
7.5 sacks with 5 regular season games to go.

leads the team in sacks.

still a rookie, and still learning a new position.

I'd say the guy looks damn good, and was well worth the #7 pick in the draft.

IMHO.
I was more impressed seeing Gore laying a couple people out while blocking!
  • mike
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Originally posted by bubbleguts:
I was more impressed seeing Gore laying a couple people out while blocking!

I guess you missed the one where he picked up the wrong guy and let someone come straight up the middle for the sack.
Tons of talent and getting better. He's learning, making a mistake here and there. When it all comes together - watch out.
Originally posted by Baugh_Area:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
He is what he is....a guy who is pretty much a 4-3 DE right now, which is his role in the nickle, when he comes in. He didn't show much in a pass rush last night, but made a couple good tackles on run plays (the one at the end of the 3rd quarter was solid). To me, last night was a mixed performance, but nothing that altered the team's fate.

He is a guy who shows bursts of excitement, but is not a consistent all-around player right now. His coverage skills are raw, and that is why he is almost completely limited to rushing off the edge in nickle situations.

In the last month, he is probably the fourth best OLB in this draft, behind Von Miller, Ryan Kerrigan, and Brooks Reed. These guys are making a larger impact than Smith, mostly due to the number of snaps. However, his career is young. I'd just like to see the 7th overall pick get on the field more.

You have a little write up like this in every Aldon Smith thread that comes up. It's like you're slowly trying to make yourself look correct, one thread and sack less game at a time. Just get over it please. He is not the 4th best OLB right now. You say he's inconsistent, I say he has had a tremendously positive impact when he's played and his playing time has been lessened by a lack of creativity and necessity on defense. Can you think of a play where he gets beaten badly? Gives up the edge and gives up a big run? Gets beaten in coverage? No, you just assume because he's not playing it's because he's not good and isn't worth the number 7 pick. Put a sock in it.

Yeah I don't get all the negative connotations. As if he is still trying to justify his draft board.

Brooks Reed...really?

Reed:
27 tackles
5 sakcs
2 pass defended

Agent Smith:
20 tackles
7.5 sacks
1 FF
4 Pass defended
1 Safety

And smith is doing that with limited playing time. Aldon also has a s**t load of hurries. Many tackle for losses. Multiple rookie of the week awards etc... You can hardly state all Aldon's accomplishments in one breath.

Who is making a bigger impact on the game? Smith contributed to the Lions win with the safety and the sack fumble.
You missed on this one. Just let it go and enjoy those beastly numbers from a rookie learning a new position and getting limited playing time,
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Nov 26, 2011 at 2:06 PM ]