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Sportsfan, he replied to my email too. The message is above (read from the bottom up), but my laptop doesn't work well with the zone so it's all jumbled.
[ Edited by AmpLee on Oct 21, 2011 at 2:13 PM ]
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Worst power rankings ever

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/rankings/nfl/

This guy moves the Bengals up 9 leap frogging us (who moved up 7) after they win at home against the Colts. Then leaves the Lions at #3. I am sorry, I just had to email this guy and call him out.

This is one of them stupid bloggers who will still have us rated tenth after we steamroll the Lions in the playoffs, b***hslap the Packers in the NFC Championship game and rout the New England Ninnies in the Super Bowl. You're not going to get any respect out of these people because they refuse to believe what is taking place before their very eyes.

Go look at MadDog's draft analysis of Aldon Smith for a local example of this type of behaviour.

Just don't let it bother you. Don't let the hate obscure what is real and what is nice. Who cares what he thinks? He's demonstrated his hate for the Niners -- that's nice -- yawn let's move on.
Originally posted by IWasWrongRubber:
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Worst power rankings ever

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/rankings/nfl/

This guy moves the Bengals up 9 leap frogging us (who moved up 7) after they win at home against the Colts. Then leaves the Lions at #3. I am sorry, I just had to email this guy and call him out.

This is one of them stupid bloggers who will still have us rated tenth after we steamroll the Lions in the playoffs, b***hslap the Packers in the NFC Championship game and rout the New England Ninnies in the Super Bowl. You're not going to get any respect out of these people because they refuse to believe what is taking place before their very eyes.

Go look at MadDog's draft analysis of Aldon Smith for a local example of this type of behaviour.

Just don't let it bother you. Don't let the hate obscure what is real and what is nice. Who cares what he thinks? He's demonstrated his hate for the Niners -- that's nice -- yawn let's move on.

Do you even watch football? How on earth are the Niners ranked lower than two teams they beat on the road?! It's hard to take your rankings seriously when you have the 3-2 Titans ranked ahead of the 5-1 Niners. And how convenient you have the Lions ranked the same even after they lost to the Niners at home. What a joke. I don't like to make generalizations, but maybe you should stick to hockey, eh? I've made a mental note that Scott Cullen is a complete joke when it comes to football analysis. Seriously, you're getting paid for this?

And the Niners were what, 4.5-point underdogs? You think that one game suddenly means that San Francisco would be favoured? I've been handicapping NFL games for 20 years and, I assure you, that's not how it works.



Why would Tennessee's record automatically mean they are worse than San Francisco? They haven't played the same teams.



I don't like to make generalizations either, so I won't. It's more credible that way.



Make all the mental notes you like. No one's forcing you to read my rankings. If you don't want to read them, don't; you won't be missed.



Regards,


So what they were underdogs. They were playing an undefeated team on the road. The Niners have had the most difficult schedule of all the 5-1 teams (including the team they just beat on their home turf that you rank 7 spots ahead of them). Does that mean anything? It's the fact that you still think the Lions and the Bengals are better teams than the Niners even though the Niners beat both teams at their home fields, that you lose credibility (assuming you had some to begin with). It's quite convenient that you say the Titans can be ranked higher than the Niners because they've played different teams, but when the Niners play teams (like the Lions and Bengals) and beat them, it seemingly means nothing. So what is it? Does it matter the teams have played or not? Because it's obvious there is a huge contradiction in your statement and your rankings. I'm seriously wondering if you've actually watched any Niners games this year aside from the Lions and maybe a few highlights. This team is legit and your twenty years handicapping means nothing if you can't note that, or how dominant their defense and special teams have been.

You're searching for contradictions where none exist. Head-to-head results aren't the be-all end-all when ranking all 32 teams. Otherwise, I'd have to explain why San Francisco is ranked ahead of Dallas, right? The head-to-head stuff runs in circles, so it's not as important as you would like to think.



Their dominant defence is ranked 13th in yardage against. That's slightly above average. Their offence is 28th in yardage, which is well below average.



I watched the Niners struggle for three-and-a-half quarters at home against a terrible Seattle team before pulling away with two punt return touchdowns – events that are highly unlikely to be repeated. I watched their second-half comeback against the Eagles and gave up part way through their horrific game against the Bengals. If that's not enough viewings of one team through six weeks, then best of luck to you in your coverage of 32 teams.



If you want to win based on defence and special teams, best of luck. It hasn't been a particularly successful formula so it's going to be an uphill fight.

What are the Niners ranks in points scored and scored against? That should be a far more determinant statistic for their success, no? How are the Niners ranked in rush defense, QB pressures, sacks, passes defended, ints, offensive running game, etc. Sure, pick your yardage stats to prove your point, but it does nothing to prove why the Niners are 5-1. This while playing three tough road games.

While I don't believe head-to-head should be the be-all end-all, it should be relevant. Sure the Niners lost in OT to Dallas, but that is their only blemish. They absolutely dismantled a tough Tampa Bay team which you rank slightly behind them. And when I say they absolutely dismantled them, I'm not exaggerating it. It was the worst lost in Tampa Bay history and there are some abysmal TB teams in their history.

Seattle was the first game of the season for a team that had more of a disadvantage than almost any other team trying to learn a complete new system during a lockout shortened offseason. Sure, the game wasn't convincing, but it should at least prove more of a point that their special teams have dominated all opposition they've faced, in all facets of the game. Add to that, Seattle has been better than expected so the win should mean something no matter how they went about it. And if you remember, they didn't struggle for three and a half quarters. Seattle mounted a comeback before Ginn went off, but the Niners had dominated most of the game and were in the lead before Ginn went off.

You admit to giving up part way during the Bengals game, but why? If you look at defensive stats, these are two of the best defensive teams thusfar. Maybe you can't be enthralled in a game that offenses don't light it up, but to call it horrific proves the point you don't know what your're talking about. The game was a hard-fought gravel in the bellies defensive showdown. That's not always exciting to viewers, but it doesn't mean it was a bad game, or horrific in your words. I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed the defensive performances by both teams. But maybe that's me.

Defense and special teams have won many championships. I'm not saying that we're going to win a championship, but to ignore the Stealers, Ravens, and Tampa Bay championships in recent years is ignorant. We have a growing offense with many weapons and Alex Smith has played very well this year (much better than some of your teams' QBs ranked ahead of the Niners). It's okay to make an oversight. This team is for real, no matter what you think.

Good day.
[ Edited by AmpLee on Oct 21, 2011 at 2:52 PM ]
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by IWasWrongRubber:
Originally posted by SportsFan:
Worst power rankings ever

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/rankings/nfl/

This guy moves the Bengals up 9 leap frogging us (who moved up 7) after they win at home against the Colts. Then leaves the Lions at #3. I am sorry, I just had to email this guy and call him out.

This is one of them stupid bloggers who will still have us rated tenth after we steamroll the Lions in the playoffs, b***hslap the Packers in the NFC Championship game and rout the New England Ninnies in the Super Bowl. You're not going to get any respect out of these people because they refuse to believe what is taking place before their very eyes.

Go look at MadDog's draft analysis of Aldon Smith for a local example of this type of behaviour.

Just don't let it bother you. Don't let the hate obscure what is real and what is nice. Who cares what he thinks? He's demonstrated his hate for the Niners -- that's nice -- yawn let's move on.

Do you even watch football? How on earth are the Niners ranked lower than two teams they beat on the road?! It's hard to take your rankings seriously when you have the 3-2 Titans ranked ahead of the 5-1 Niners. And how convenient you have the Lions ranked the same even after they lost to the Niners at home. What a joke. I don't like to make generalizations, but maybe you should stick to hockey, eh? I've made a mental note that Scott Cullen is a complete joke when it comes to football analysis. Seriously, you're getting paid for this?

And the Niners were what, 4.5-point underdogs? You think that one game suddenly means that San Francisco would be favoured? I've been handicapping NFL games for 20 years and, I assure you, that's not how it works.



Why would Tennessee's record automatically mean they are worse than San Francisco? They haven't played the same teams.



I don't like to make generalizations either, so I won't. It's more credible that way.



Make all the mental notes you like. No one's forcing you to read my rankings. If you don't want to read them, don't; you won't be missed.



Regards,

You're searching for contradictions where none exist. Head-to-head results aren't the be-all end-all when ranking all 32 teams. Otherwise, I'd have to explain why San Francisco is ranked ahead of Dallas, right? The head-to-head stuff runs in circles, so it's not as important as you would like to think.



Their dominant defence is ranked 13th in yardage against. That's slightly above average. Their offence is 28th in yardage, which is well below average.



I watched the Niners struggle for three-and-a-half quarters at home against a terrible Seattle team before pulling away with two punt return touchdowns – events that are highly unlikely to be repeated. I watched their second-half comeback against the Eagles and gave up part way through their horrific game against the Bengals. If that's not enough viewings of one team through six weeks, then best of luck to you in your coverage of 32 teams.



If you want to win based on defence and special teams, best of luck. It hasn't been a particularly successful formula so it's going to be an uphill fight.

What are the Niners ranks in points scored and scored against? That should be a far more determinant statistic for their success, no? How are the Niners ranked in rush defense, QB pressures, sacks, passes defended, ints, offensive running game, etc. Sure, pick your yardage stats to prove your point, but it does nothing to prove why the Niners are 5-1. This while playing three tough road games.

While I don't believe head-to-head should be the be-all end-all, it should be relevant. Sure the Niners lost in OT to Dallas, but that is their only blemish. They absolutely dismantled a tough Tampa Bay team which you rank slightly behind them. And when I say they absolutely dismantled them, I'm not exaggerating it. It was the worst lost in Tampa Bay history and there are some abysmal TB teams in their history.

Seattle was the first game of the season for a team that had more of a disadvantage than almost any other team trying to learn a complete new system during a lockout shortened offseason. Sure, the game wasn't convincing, but it should at least prove more of a point that their special teams have dominated all opposition they've faced, in all facets of the game. Add to that, Seattle has been better than expected so the win should mean something no matter how they went about it. And if you remember, they didn't struggle for three and a half quarters. Seattle mounted a comeback before Ginn went off, but the Niners had dominated most of the game and were in the lead before Ginn went off.

You admit to giving up part way during the Bengals game, but why? If you look at defensive stats, these are two of the best defensive teams thusfar. Maybe you can't be enthralled in a game that offenses don't light it up, but to call it horrific proves the point you don't know what your're talking about. The game was a hard-fought gravel in the bellies defensive showdown. That's not always exciting to viewers, but it doesn't mean it was a bad game, or horrific in your words. I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed the defensive performances by both teams. But maybe that's me.

Defense and special teams have won many championships. I'm not saying that we're going to win a championship, but to ignore the Stealers, Ravens, and Tampa Bay championships in recent years is ignorant. We have a growing offense with many weapons and Alex Smith has played very well this year (much better than some of your teams' QBs ranked ahead of the Niners). It's okay to make an oversight. This team is for real, no matter what you think.

Good day.
PWNED
Wait, we beat Detroit and Cincinnati and they are higher, lmao. Typical idiots, plus its tsn.ca, lol. Aren't they together with ESPN? Aren't they like the espn of canada?
Unfortunately, NFL.com is not letting the 9ers fly under the radar any more. Bad preseason, while Harbaugh was concentrating on installing rather than winning, sent the team down three places. Couldn't find a number in Week three but the 9ers were in the group considered unworthy. It wasn't until the 9ers knocked off Detroit that they have gained some respect.

Preseason: 23

Week 1: 26

Week 2: 21

Week 3: Sell

Week 4: 22

Week 5: 17

Week 6: 5

Currently the 9ers are ranked 4th (Joe Theismann), 5th (Charlie Davis) and 6th (Steve Wyche). Don't really care but do think they should be top 7 or 8 at the worst.

Edit: Kirwan has the 9ers at #3. I don't usually pay attention to him but perhaps I will start!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 21, 2011 at 3:14 PM ]
Damn those Bucs are soooo much better than us. Josh Freeman looked really amazing today with those four picks!

Eat a fat dick LaCanfora you stupid piece of s**t.
And their coach is so much better than Harbaugh...Tony said!
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
And their coach is so much better than Harbaugh...Tony said!

That was made up.
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Damn those Bucs are soooo much better than us. Josh Freeman looked really amazing today with those four picks!

Eat a fat dick LaCanfora you stupid piece of s**t.

Lol
I doubt we move up/down much from the rankings this week (maybe one slot back, if).
We
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Damn those Bucs are soooo much better than us. Josh Freeman looked really amazing today with those four picks!

Eat a fat dick LaCanfora you stupid piece of s**t.

Well said, that guys a douche bag
Originally posted by SportsFan:
That was made up.


Originally posted by SportsFan:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
And their coach is so much better than Harbaugh...Tony said!

That was made up.


No, he actually compared the two and said Morris was the better coach.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
No, he actually compared the two and said Morris was the better coach.

We went over this. Pretty sure the original poster made it up. No way or reason for Dungy to say Morris is a better coach. Just wouldn't happen.