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Media and the 49ers

We're going to have to let it go. We're not the first team to get screwed by the officials in a Super Bowl and we won't be the last. As much as we love to hate them, the Seahawks fans had a legitimate beef too. They're still complaining after all these years, and I'm sure some of us will still be complaining years from now. But, it's over. I'm going to try to move on and get excited about next season. There's a lot to be excited and optimistic about.
The bigger issue to me is why the officials tend to let 'em play in the playoffs without many flags, but during the regular season it's raining yellow in just about every game, every Sunday. I'm also not a fan of rewarding officials who have the best scores at the end of the regular season...because no matter how good they are individually, they haven't worked together as a crew. I think rewarding the best overall crews is the better way to go...sure, you might get the occasional clunker of a single official in a crew, but overall they should be a better team.
Originally posted by cciowa:
it makes me sick to see how our defense played for the ENTIRE GAME
it makes me sick to come out and make a drive killing penalty right away
it made me sick to see turnovers and mistakes and to see our team implode on the biggest stage in the world in the first half
it make me sick to see one of our guys whif a tackle on a kickoff return, which has happened all year
it makes me sick to think of the lack of effort by moss
it makes me sick to think of no pass rush and no aldon smith
it makes me sick to see our coaches not give our team the best chance to win the game with what we do best, that makes me f**king sick to my stomach and will do so forever
it made me sick to see us get out coached and not prepared on the punt safety when we let him run around 8 precious seconds

You lose all credibility when you mention the two I bolded.

First off, when is giving up 6 total points in the second half horrible for the entire game?

Second, the punt safety where we had like 7 players held and tackled? Yeah, coaches fault on that too they should have been ready to be tackled.

SMH.
[ Edited by rondoman on Feb 11, 2013 at 3:05 PM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Not really. Its been talked about.

Who pointed out that it may not have been called because Miller was not taken to the ground? I don't recall anyone pointing that out here.
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Who pointed out that it may not have been called because Miller was not taken to the ground? I don't recall anyone pointing that out here.

This has been posted:

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira
On Jacoby Jones kick return there is no holding on a double team block unless the defender is taken to the ground. He wasn't.
Holding call is subjective as f**k. Really inconsistent.
Originally posted by nickbradley:
OK - King is wrong:On p. 63 of the rule book, its says that holding will not be called 'if the action is part of a double-team block in close line play', with the exception being that a hold can be called if the player goes to the ground.

correct me if I'm wrong, but is a kickoff return 'close line play'? NO!

As stated previously I am pretty sure the rule you are referencing is for regular downs and not kick returns. How could "close inline play" apply to men running down the field? Think about it.

This is the 3rd professional I have heard describe it that way. The likelyhood they are wrong and you right seems a bit far fetched, especially since as we have all seen the ref was starting right at the block aaaaaaand if you re-watch the play the Ravens players blocking Miller were clearly trying to hold him up off the ground. His feet come up off the ground several times.
[ Edited by WINiner on Feb 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Are we really still on this???

Yup, until the Niners win a sixth Super Bowl.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Who pointed out that it may not have been called because Miller was not taken to the ground? I don't recall anyone pointing that out here.

This has been posted:

Mike Pereira ‏@MikePereira
On Jacoby Jones kick return there is no holding on a double team block unless the defender is taken to the ground. He wasn't.

I must have missed that post and the subsequent discussion. If that is how the rule is written, it is a lame rule in a league full of lame rules that few if anyone understand. The NFL makes too many rule changes.
They could lock this to make room for more Alex vs Colin threads.
[ Edited by TheWooLick on Feb 11, 2013 at 4:13 PM ]
It doesnt matter how the rule is written the NFL will do what they want. I thought hands on an official was automatic ejection, look how that turned out.
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Originally posted by jrg:




John Harbaugh probably told his players that they aint gonna call s**t so just grab as much as possible.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by jrg:




John Harbaugh probably told his players that they aint gonna call s**t so just grab as much as possible.


great strategy too. push the envelope, make them make a call, if they do then u can tone it down a notch. potentially big reward if it pays off for u
Originally posted by crabman82:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by jrg:




John Harbaugh probably told his players that they aint gonna call s**t so just grab as much as possible.


great strategy too. push the envelope, make them make a call, if they do then u can tone it down a notch. potentially big reward if it pays off for u

This is the strategy a lot of teams are going with on both sides of the ball. As we've seen, the Seahawks DB's did it and the Falcons WR's push off to create space and the refs caught these type of infractions only a fraction of the time.

I think the Niners need to start doing this too. The refs will not call it every time so do it till they do. After that Super Bowl, more teams will adopt that same philosophy. The law of averages tells you you'd get away with it more times than not.

This is what happens when the NFL allows refs to pick and choose what calls to make, only to interpret no-calls as their way to claim that they're "letting them play". Every week in any random city with an NFL game, there will be a team that will feel like the 49ers did in the SB. Watching blatant sh*t go uncalled and getting the feeling like you're forced to eat it because this week, it's your turn.
[ Edited by 602_JamestownAve on Feb 11, 2013 at 9:44 PM ]
If Miller had just gone to the ground after not being able to make the tackle would they have called it?

Has anyone seen an explanation for no flag being thrown for holding on the safety play?
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