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Mike Iupati

Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
AB projects we'll have $20+ mil in cap space next year. That's more than enough cash to extend Iupati and hopefully a few others.

That's great news. There will be enough for Iupati, Kaepernick and maybe Crabtree to boot.


Are you suggesting 20 mil is enough to sign Iupati, Kap and Crabtree? Or do you mean when paired with other players who we let walk?
[ Edited by BrianGO on Jul 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM ]
Originally posted by 60sfan:
In the era of the NFL salary cap, tough decisions have to be made. It is not an indictment against any player's ability. It would be nice to have hall of fame players at every position but no team can afford it. The question becomes which position is easier to replace. I happen to think guard is is one of the easier positions to replace. Which of the 22 starter positions is easiest in your mind to replace?

I think the team is in great shape for the future, but the reality is we WILL lose some players in the next few years; good players. As long as we keep our best core and draft well, we can stay at the top of the league.

My prediction is Gore, Whitner, Rodgers, Goodwin, Crabtree, T Brown and MAYBE Iupati and/or Brooks depending on a bunch of factors. That still leaves us with Kap, Aldon, J Smith, A Davis, Culliver, Staley, RayMac, Vernon, Wills, Bowman, Boone and a bunch of promising young guys. Our last draft was excellent, and we continue to do a good job of picking up additional picks for future years.
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
I think Iupati is going to be easier to sign then people think. Guy comes from very little money and SF is as close as you can get in the NFL to your family and friends still living in the Samoan islands. He doesn't seem like the type to want the label of being the highest paid at the position. All just a hunch of course since I don't know the guy

Great point! Soap wanted to stay a niner exactly because of that but wasn't offered a deal from the niners. But I know Iupati will accept a deal from the niners partly because he wants to stay close to home.
I'm a big Iupati fan but you pay for tackles not guards. Unless he's going for the moon I think he stays. In order to compete on an every year basis the roster must to be cost effective.
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
I thought about this and I am sure iupati agent is pushing for Mike to be the highest paid OG in the league. Maybe we say not here because we may have another Alex Boone somewhere on this roster. Long term we may not be able to pay all the OL at the top of the league and keep the team together. We have a lot of high picks next year and maybe we plan to use them replacing pricy free agent defectors and gain a 3rd rd comp for him. Just think we picked AD before Iupati that year because we considered positional value over the fact that Mike was the consensus best G. I am not surprised that we locked up AD first as a result
Agree 100%. He can walk and receive a compensatory 3rd for him. Looney or Kilgore will take over or a high draft pick.

CK7
Aldon
both higher priority for FA.

Seattle did not re sign Hutchinson, and he left for Minnesota and did nothing until AP came to the vikings. Guards like IUpati are special, but you cannot break the bank for a guard.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pay him and let Crabtree go and Carlos Rogers if necessary.
This right here! Let's be real you wouldn't let larry allen go in his prime would you. No No you dam well wouldn't... And we shouldn't with mike. Crabtree is coming off a injury, carlos is getting old, and if kap is a legit franchise qb like tom brady is we don't need elite wr to catch the ball we need guys who can block for a hour and give colin time to throw or open up holes to run.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Are you suggesting 20 mil is enough to sign Iupati, Kap and Crabtree? Or do you mean when paired with other players who we let walk?

Iupati and Kaepernick and MAYBE Crabtree. The most lucrative guard contract in the NFL was about a $5mil cap hit in its first year. If they can get away with about an $8 mil cap hit in the first year of a Kaepernick contract, that would still leave another $7 mil for Crabtree. It's possible, but agree that it's not probable because there will be other contracts to work out as well.
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pay him and let Crabtree go and Carlos Rogers if necessary.
This right here! Let's be real you wouldn't let larry allen go in his prime would you. No No you dam well wouldn't... And we shouldn't with mike. Crabtree is coming off a injury, carlos is getting old, and if kap is a legit franchise qb like tom brady is we don't need elite wr to catch the ball we need guys who can block for a hour and give colin time to throw or open up holes to run.

That's it. Iupati and Kaep > Crabtree and Carlos Rogers.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Are you suggesting 20 mil is enough to sign Iupati, Kap and Crabtree? Or do you mean when paired with other players who we let walk?

Iupati and Kaepernick and MAYBE Crabtree. The most lucrative guard contract in the NFL was about a $5mil cap hit in its first year. If they can get away with about an $8 mil cap hit in the first year of a Kaepernick contract, that would still leave another $7 mil for Crabtree. It's possible, but agree that it's not probable because there will be other contracts to work out as well.


I don't like the idea of super back loading our big contracts. It helps you keep players in the short term, but hurts your team badly in the long run. We will be fine if we just keep our core and draft well.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Pay him and let Crabtree go and Carlos Rogers if necessary.
This right here! Let's be real you wouldn't let larry allen go in his prime would you. No No you dam well wouldn't... And we shouldn't with mike. Crabtree is coming off a injury, carlos is getting old, and if kap is a legit franchise qb like tom brady is we don't need elite wr to catch the ball we need guys who can block for a hour and give colin time to throw or open up holes to run.

That's it. Iupati and Kaep > Crabtree and Carlos Rogers.


That's fine, but Iupati, Crabtree and Carlos Rodgers combined make less then what Kap will ask for.
I'm curious what AB honestly thinks the 49ers can do? The way we're set up now, can we definitely keep more of our key core players - will we have enough space to sign long-term Iupati, Kap, Crabtree, Aldon Smith, and Crabtree? Some beat writers don't think so (especially Maiocco)...they think Crabtree is probably gone. If I had to pick three of these four, I'd say extend Iupati, Kap, and A. Smith. However, if we could somehow figure out how to keep Crabtree (assuming he fully recovers from his injury)...he was really starting to become a top-of-the-line WR but more than that, he really fits into what we do (blocks well), is clutch when we need a big third down converted, and has really built up chemistry with Kap.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
That's fine, but Iupati, Crabtree and Carlos Rodgers combined make less then what Kap will ask for.

I'm not sure Kap is a Flacco-type who will knowingly ruin his team's cap situation for years to come for a few extra million in the short term. He seems more like a team guy than that to me. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.
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Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
That's fine, but Iupati, Crabtree and Carlos Rodgers combined make less then what Kap will ask for.

I'm not sure Kap is a Flacco-type who will knowingly ruin his team's cap situation for years to come for a few extra million in the short term. He seems more like a team guy than that to me. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.

dudes getting paid 740k this year. lol pretty sure he's gonna want his money
I think the thread starter wanted replies.
Well you got it buddy.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
That's fine, but Iupati, Crabtree and Carlos Rodgers combined make less then what Kap will ask for.

I'm not sure Kap is a Flacco-type who will knowingly ruin his team's cap situation for years to come for a few extra million in the short term. He seems more like a team guy than that to me. I may be wrong, but I don't think so.


Even if you discount every Super Bowl winning quarterback:

In 2014 and beyond:
Romo is over 20mil per
Staford is over 20 mil per

Every "franchise" quarterback is going to make 20+ mil per in 2014 and beyond unless they're still on their rookie deal. It's just what the situation is. NFL contracts are like computers, by the time you get one, it's already obsolete.