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Alex Smith Thread

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 2, 2011 at 9:49 AM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Funny thing is, it's actually you who doesn't know what to look for on that play. The CBs head is not even turned when Alex Smith should have released the ball. A window is there. I wouldn't expect you to see that through those blinders though.

And just to boot my point, Mark Schlereth pointed out this exact same thing on NFL Live. I think the analysis of a Pro Bowl offensive lineman means something .

The CB was staring into the backfield the entire play. What are you talking about and who are you kidding?

Are you going to outright tell me that the CB was not facing the LOS that entire time?

An accurate throw and the WR is between the CB and the ball. The DB would have to go through the WR to make a play on the ball. This is a classic slant WCO play that has to be made.


Incredible assumptions being made here. Crabtree has been known to give CBs the right of way, so how the heck can you assume the ball would not have been picked off? Was the DB within five feet of where the ball would have been caught? If so the QB was justified to choose another option. You can second guess him all you want but it is meaningless unless you were in the film room with Harbaugh and Smith after the game.

If he is making terrible decisions you can bet JH is telling him during these sessions, which is what I care about.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 2, 2011 at 9:50 AM ]
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Funny thing is, it's actually you who doesn't know what to look for on that play. The CBs head is not even turned when Alex Smith should have released the ball. A window is there. I wouldn't expect you to see that through those blinders though.

And just to boot my point, Mark Schlereth pointed out this exact same thing on NFL Live. I think the analysis of a Pro Bowl offensive lineman means something .

The CB was staring into the backfield the entire play. What are you talking about and who are you kidding?

Are you going to outright tell me that the CB was not facing the LOS that entire time?

An accurate throw and the WR is between the CB and the ball. The DB would have to go through the WR to make a play on the ball. This is a classic slant WCO play that has to be made.


Incredible assumptions being made here. Crabtree has been known to give CBs the right of way, so how the heck can you assume the ball would not have been picked off? Was the DB within five feet of where the ball would have been caught? If so the QB was justified to choose another option. You can second guess him all you want but it is meaningless unless you were in the film room with Harbaugh and Smith after the game.

If he is making terrible decisions you can bet JH is telling him during these sessions, which is what I care about.

He has to let the ball fly here. An accurate ball right there would be a completion. The result was a sack otherwise and a killer.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Oct 2, 2011 at 9:52 AM ]
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
He has to let the ball fly here. An accurate ball right there would be a completion. The result was a sack otherwise and a killer.


If a QB can't make that throw, they don't deserve to be in the NFL. Of course this video evidence is a bit too damning for oldman's ego. Maybe he needs to change his spectacles?
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Funny thing is, it's actually you who doesn't know what to look for on that play. The CBs head is not even turned when Alex Smith should have released the ball. A window is there. I wouldn't expect you to see that through those blinders though.

And just to boot my point, Mark Schlereth pointed out this exact same thing on NFL Live. I think the analysis of a Pro Bowl offensive lineman means something .

The CB was staring into the backfield the entire play. What are you talking about and who are you kidding?

Are you going to outright tell me that the CB was not facing the LOS that entire time?

An accurate throw and the WR is between the CB and the ball. The DB would have to go through the WR to make a play on the ball. This is a classic slant WCO play that has to be made.


Incredible assumptions being made here. Crabtree has been known to give CBs the right of way, so how the heck can you assume the ball would not have been picked off? Was the DB within five feet of where the ball would have been caught? If so the QB was justified to choose another option. You can second guess him all you want but it is meaningless unless you were in the film room with Harbaugh and Smith after the game.

If he is making terrible decisions you can bet JH is telling him during these sessions, which is what I care about.

He has to let the ball fly here. An accurate ball right there would be a completion. The result was a sack otherwise and a killer.


We're asking too much of Alex to make that high percentage pass. Remember, he's in a new system with a new coach. He should just hold on to the ball, take the sack, and not risk an INT.
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
He has to let the ball fly here. An accurate ball right there would be a completion. The result was a sack otherwise and a killer.


If a QB can't make that throw, they don't deserve to be in the NFL. Of course this video evidence is a bit too damning for oldman's ego. Maybe he needs to change his spectacles?

I dont know abou that fellas, the db is in position to break on the ball. That could easily be a pick or a deflected ball.

Look at the positioning of the DBs legs under the score board. He is ready to take off.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Oct 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM ]
Originally posted by Leathaface:
If a QB can't make that throw, they don't deserve to be in the NFL. Of course this video evidence is a bit too damning for oldman's ego. Maybe he needs to change his spectacles?


So, there are two DBs as close to the ball as the receiver and that's OK with you? The CB, who knows Smith has to get rid of the ball quickly because his line is so bad, will jump the route and score an easy TD...not what I would want to see.

If you are going to suggest that Crabtree would fight for the ball I would ask you to show me one play in the past two years where he has done this.

Edit: Can't see the safeties but I assume there is one covering deep?
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 2, 2011 at 9:59 AM ]
What is stopping the CB from running forward to cut off the slant and make a pick? Are you kidding? Look at the CB's feet and body language. THAT is worth the risk? Hellz no.

Enjoy the game all... GO NINERS !!!!
Originally posted by oldman9er:
What is stopping the CB from running forward to cut off the slant and make a pick? Are you kidding? Look at the CB's feet and body language. THAT is worth the risk? Hellz no.

Enjoy the game all... GO NINERS !!!!

Feet look like the CB is in starting blocks! Body is leaning forward not backpeddling. Hmm!

Edit: just noticed the MLB(?) is on his way toward the slant as well.
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Oct 2, 2011 at 10:03 AM ]
Originally posted by backontop:
Alex Smith
2 TD's (should be 3 at the least) 1 INT 68.9%(correction from 69.8%) completion percentage 504 yards and a 2-1 team record.

Cam Newton
4TD's 4 INT's 59.8% completion percentage 1,012 yards and a 1-2 team record


Sorry but Alex Smith still wins. Better TD/ INT ratio, better completion % and better team record.

Why does it have to be Smith > Newton or Newton > Smith? Why can't it be a win for both players & their respective teams?

400 yards & a loss is still a win for Newton & Carolina because he's a rookie QB who's shown promise. The Panthers have a player who can potentially be great one day and is making an early impact for them. Yes, they're losing now but it leaves them hopeful for the future because they might have found their franchise QB.

Smith's efficient (but not explosive) play is still a win for Smith & SF because he didn't lose games for us. Despite the quality of opponents, we're at 2-1 with Smith not giving 2 of those wins away. Yes, the wins weren't impressive but 2 wins after 3 games is still 2 wins.

What I'm trying to say is that those 2 QBs don't have anything to do with each other...different teams, different situations, different opponents, different systems, etc. Arguing whose better based on Newton's 3 games and Smith's 3 games (and past career) doesn't prove who's the better player...and it irrelevant in regards to the 2011 49ers.
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Originally posted by candlestick49er:
Why does it have to be Smith > Newton or Newton > Smith? Why can't it be a win for both players & their respective teams?

400 yards & a loss is still a win for Newton & Carolina because he's a rookie QB who's shown promise. The Panthers have a player who can potentially be great one day and is making an early impact for them. Yes, they're losing now but it leaves them hopeful for the future because they might have found their franchise QB.

Smith's efficient (but not explosive) play is still a win for Smith & SF because he didn't lose games for us. Despite the quality of opponents, we're at 2-1 with Smith not giving 2 of those wins away. Yes, the wins weren't impressive but 2 wins after 3 games is still 2 wins.

What I'm trying to say is that those 2 QBs don't have anything to do with each other...different teams, different situations, different opponents, different systems, etc. Arguing whose better based on Newton's 3 games and Smith's 3 games (and past career) doesn't prove who's the better player...and it irrelevant in regards to the 2011 49ers.

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