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Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:


Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Skip Bayless, Rome, Ralph, Cohn, Les Crain...it's a well honored tradition.

You know, I'm going to be spitting up feathers for a week for all the crap I talked about Baalke. Sorry Maddog, I was with you to the end brother, but now I have seen the light....
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.

To answer your question Maddog about why the little interest in these guys, you don't actually know that there was little interest in them. Edwards screwed himself out of a decent contract somewhere because he always seems to find trouble. As far as the other guys, maybe they had an idea of where they wanted to play or live around. When these guys sign somewhere, it isn't just about them, but most have families to think about and such.
[ Edited by Willisfn4life on Aug 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM ]
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
AdamSchefter Adam Schefter
49ers committed $16 mil in 2011 to Akers, Rogers, Goodwin, Whitner, Edwards, Williams. Raiders committed $16 mil in 2011 to Michael Huff.

Management is looking good.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
K...I hate to be a killjoy, but we do need to calm down a bit. LOL!!

I like the moves they made but there is a reason all of these guys were available for bargain prices. I think it was a good move to get into the secondary market and fill up on bargain priced players, but we didn't just get into the Super Bowl. ;-)

I hope all these moves work out, but we need to slow down a bit and see how this all plays out.

The reason being... almost every team was over the cap and couldn't sign anyone.
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.

Well thank you. My girlfriend is so wrong about me being a loser for posting on the zone.
If Kap ends up being awesome, i will BBQ the crow my self, season it, and eat it everyday for dinner. He's already looking good, so am firing up the grill
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
It's okay, you don't have to be right all the time. No one here gets a paycheck from the NFL. There's nothing wrong with being JUST a fan; that's all of us.

I agree. It seems some people here don't root for their team anymore...they are more concerned about rooting for their own opinions. Some people only care about being right and winning arguments, even if it means the team suffers. Personally, I would love to be proven wrong about certain things as long as the 49ers benefit in the end. It sucks that some people hope for failure just so they can say "I told you so".

For those coming out to "eat crow", I respect that you can get over your past opinions and be excited for our team. At the end of the day, its ok to be wrong especially if the team is better for it.
I just can't believe all these former top 10 draft picks the team is signing. I know some are good and some not so good, but its like having 2 to3 draft picks in the first rnd from 05 and 06 all over again.
2005- alex at one, braylon at three, and rodgers at nine.
2006- vernon at six and donte at eight.
We'll see....
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.

Well thank you. My girlfriend is so wrong about me being a loser for posting on the zone.

There's a lot of wives/GFs saying the same thing. Bet they spend at least an hour a day on Facebook though. I tell my wife this is Facebook for 49er fans, and the bonus is, we don't have to see each other's faces
Originally posted by mandy49er:
I just can't believe all these former top 10 draft picks the team is signing. I know some are good and some not so good, but its like having 2 to3 draft picks in the first rnd from 05 and 06 all over again.
2005- alex at one, braylon at three, and rodgers at nine.
2006- vernon at six and donte at eight.
We'll see....

2007 - ted ginn at nine , willis at eleven (add in staley and that's 3 1st rounders in 2007)
Originally posted by brizznasty:
Originally posted by mandy49er:
I just can't believe all these former top 10 draft picks the team is signing. I know some are good and some not so good, but its like having 2 to3 draft picks in the first rnd from 05 and 06 all over again.
2005- alex at one, braylon at three, and rodgers at nine.
2006- vernon at six and donte at eight.
We'll see....

2007 - ted ginn at nine , willis at eleven (add in staley and that's 3 1st rounders in 2007)

theyre accumulating talent that this coaching staff can actually cultivate. our previous 3 coaches failed with many draft picks i believe because they didnt know what the hell they were doing. i wouldnt be surprised to see some of the underachievers from the last few years start to look really good
Originally posted by WRATHman44:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.

Well thank you. My girlfriend is so wrong about me being a loser for posting on the zone.

There's a lot of wives/GFs saying the same thing. Bet they spend at least an hour a day on Facebook though. I tell my wife this is Facebook for 49er fans, and the bonus is, we don't have to see each other's faces

Just show her that last post and give a little bit of background, if she doesnt geta kick out of that she aint right for you.

But yeah, I get the same sh*t too for this site being the default for the web browser. I just tell her to go watch Jersey Slore (sloot + wh*re combined), True Life: I wanna be a 16 yo spoiled wh*re or real housewives of bumf#ck egypt cause thats soo much cooler.
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Originally posted by mandy49er:
I just can't believe all these former top 10 draft picks the team is signing. I know some are good and some not so good, but its like having 2 to3 draft picks in the first rnd from 05 and 06 all over again.
2005- alex at one, braylon at three, and rodgers at nine.
2006- vernon at six and donte at eight.
We'll see....

2007 - ted ginn at nine , willis at eleven (add in staley and that's 3 1st rounders in 2007)

Should pick up revis while we're at it
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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It is heartnening to see the Niners make these last minute moves. Adding Goodwin, Whitner and Edwards helps our team's chances a lot more in 2011 than the roster we had a couple days ago. Some notes to go with BrianGo's listing of free agent players signed by the team, in addition to Corcoran, who was also signed:

Braylon Edwards- A nice potential addition to the WR's. 53 receptions in 2010 was not impressive, but 17.1 yards/catch and 7 TD's is nice. Living in Ohio, and watching a ton of Browns' games over the years, I have to say "Buyer Beware". The kid is an underachiever, and has hands of stone. Ted Ginn hands of stone. But, certainly worth the risk for the money, especially with Crabtree down for awhile. Edwards, who is never going to win the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award, still has to clear a potential legal hurdle, as mentioned from Fox News in the story below today:

NFL free agent Braylon Edwards could face legal trouble Thursday for his role in a fight that broke out at a bar in Birmingham, Mich., early Monday, the Detroit Free Press reported.

A statement from South Bar, in downtown Birmingham, implicated Edwards in the incident that saw two of his cousins charged with felonious assault after allegedly attacking two bouncers with a pocket knife and a fork.

"Braylon Edwards was present and involved, but it's an ongoing police investigation, so at this time, we don't have any further information," the bar confirmed Tuesday.

The Free Press also reported that "privately, employees at South Bar said Edwards was spurring on his cousins rather than trying to get them to stop fighting."

Edwards' cousins, brothers Tre Lenard Wright, 19, and Edmund Jerrell Wright, 22, both pleaded not guilty Monday.


Donte Whitner- Another big name acquisition who has underachieved, like Edwards, but presents good value in this contract, especially when analyzing the Niners' secondary. Like Edwards, the team really did not have much interest in retaining him, and like Edwards, did not have big interest to be picked up around the league.

He's still young, and can be a guy who holds the fort for two years, but Buffalo fans were not heartbroken over his departure, which should temper some Niners' fans enthusiasm. A good, but not great player.

Johnathan Goodwin- As mentioned last night on the Goodwin thread, he's going to be 33 during this season, and the Saints left him to walk. He was the 7th, 8th, 9th center (if someone can verify that would be great) to sign in free agency. Might hold up two years, and the best part is that it frees Snyder to replace Rachal. Got a lot of help in NO with their two monster All-Pro guards.

Carlos Rogers- As in common with the previously mentioned threesome, not much interest around the league. Definitely a second or third tier CB at this point, and nowhere near the level of Asomugha, Joseph, Taylor, or even Carr...but miles better than T. Brown. So, another good one year signing.

Antwan Applewhite- He is a roster filler, a guy who is a team's fourth OLB. Not worthy of being excited.

Larry Grant- A big hustle guy who will compete for a backup ILB role. Good special teamer.

I get the idea that many want a collective crow eating to take place on the board. I'm not sure why this is so important to them. Some are calling for people to aplogize. Now, that is bizarre. Maybe they believe Trent Baalke is a genius, and the master plan fell into place. Maybe they just want to dismiss any criticism against ownership. I guess Trent and Jed have many relatives on the board.

Well, I can guarantee that this was not the master plan. This was not even the backup to the master plan or the backup to the backup to the master plan. It was a complete failure up front, with a mad scramble to pick up big-named players who are in the back side of their career, or have massively underachieved. A celebration for big-named guys that virtually nobody wanted in free agency is not a reason for an "aha" moment, or a demand for crow-eating.

Will the acquisitions help the team? I think so. Edwards brings a big play ability, but will also crush your heart. However, fans have to ask themselves: why was there so little interest around the league for him? The same goes for Whitner and Rogers. All of them are better than the current man on the roster,so this makes me happy. But is any a "difference maker", someone who will take a team to the next level? No.

That is my opinion.

Now, on to Taylor Mays. And... suddenly, without warning, the "aha" crowd goes defeaningly silent.

Cheers.

I don’t know why everyone gets so worked up about your posts you when you are clearly joking. I love this shtick you have perfected. You know, the one where you come off as this insufferable douche bag, who thinks he is smarter than everyone else, who refuses to ever acknowledge when he is wrong, who creates these “big boards” and player analysis based solely on the regurgitated material from true professionals, who is so desperate for attention that he intentionally creates flawed, exaggerated, inflammatory arguments just to pit himself against everyone else, who is clearly the Will Hunting of college and pro football who toils away in OH grading papers when in reality he is the greatest football mind since Bill Walsh just waiting for his big break. You should be lauded for creating this persona; it really brings some levity to the zone. I mean can you imagine if someone like that really existed?? Cheers

Hoovtrain...one of the greatest posts I have ever read on this forum...well done.

Well thank you. My girlfriend is so wrong about me being a loser for posting on the zone.

There's a lot of wives/GFs saying the same thing. Bet they spend at least an hour a day on Facebook though. I tell my wife this is Facebook for 49er fans, and the bonus is, we don't have to see each other's faces

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