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Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Overall, I think Baalke's done a good job of managing the cap and acquiring good players for Harbaugh. I also have to point out he (Baalke) is the one constant between both Singletary's and Harbaugh's tenures as head coaches. Neither head coach has had a particularly great relationship with him. What I'm suggesting is it's possible Baalke's perhaps a bigger part of the rift between the FO and the bench than we think or may know of. I get Harbaugh's personality and Baalke's may not mesh that well. I agree JH should get a contract extension...but not as the highest paid head coach, because although he's led his team to 3 consecutive playoffs and one SB, his record pales in comparison to someone like Belichick, who has 3 Lombardi's and has kept his team among the NFL's elite for well over a decade. The other thing is I think it's time Jed York put on his big-boy panties and quell all the hoopla by telling both Baalke and Harbaugh "we're in this together and I expect cooperation at all levels to insure we win another Super Bowl".

Nice post!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Nice post!

X2
Baakle a liar and screwed over singletary
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Overall, I think Baalke's done a good job of managing the cap and acquiring good players for Harbaugh. I also have to point out he (Baalke) is the one constant between both Singletary's and Harbaugh's tenures as head coaches. Neither head coach has had a particularly great relationship with him. What I'm suggesting is it's possible Baalke's perhaps a bigger part of the rift between the FO and the bench than we think or may know of. I get Harbaugh's personality and Baalke's may not mesh that well. I agree JH should get a contract extension...but not as the highest paid head coach, because although he's led his team to 3 consecutive playoffs and one SB, his record pales in comparison to someone like Belichick, who has 3 Lombardi's and has kept his team among the NFL's elite for well over a decade. The other thing is I think it's time Jed York put on his big-boy panties and quell all the hoopla by telling both Baalke and Harbaugh "we're in this together and I expect cooperation at all levels to insure we win another Super Bowl".

What has Belichick ever accomplished without Brady? With Cleveland? Nothing. With Bledsoe? Nothing. At any other level of football? Nothing.

What has Harbaugh accomplished without Kaepernick? With Smith? NFC Championship appearance. In college? Orange Bowl victory. Div II? Turned the team around to win two consecutive league championships; not only that but developed / found Josh Johnson, a division II quarterback who was drafted in the NFL, and made several NFL rosters.

So again. What has Belichick ever done without Brady? NOTHING.

Brady is the legend. Not Belichick.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
What has Belichick ever accomplished without Brady? With Cleveland? Nothing. With Bledsoe? Nothing. At any other level of football? Nothing.

What has Harbaugh accomplished without Kaepernick? With Smith? NFC Championship appearance. In college? Orange Bowl victory. Div II? Turned the team around to win two consecutive league championships; not only that but developed / found Josh Johnson, a division II quarterback who was drafted in the NFL, and made several NFL rosters.

So again. What has Belichick ever done without A. Vinatieri? NOTHING.

A. Vinatieri is the legend. Not Belichick.

I agree + don't forget the footage
[ Edited by Negrodamus on Mar 1, 2014 at 9:35 PM ]
First of all, I think Baalke has done a Good Job drafting sans the 2012 Draft, BUT Harbaugh has done an EVEN better job coaching.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Overall, I think Baalke's done a good job of managing the cap and acquiring good players for Harbaugh. I also have to point out he (Baalke) is the one constant between both Singletary's and Harbaugh's tenures as head coaches. Neither head coach has had a particularly great relationship with him. What I'm suggesting is it's possible Baalke's perhaps a bigger part of the rift between the FO and the bench than we think or may know of. I get Harbaugh's personality and Baalke's may not mesh that well. I agree JH should get a contract extension...but not as the highest paid head coach, because although he's led his team to 3 consecutive playoffs and one SB, his record pales in comparison to someone like Belichick, who has 3 Lombardi's and has kept his team among the NFL's elite for well over a decade. The other thing is I think it's time Jed York put on his big-boy panties and quell all the hoopla by telling both Baalke and Harbaugh "we're in this together and I expect cooperation at all levels to insure we win another Super Bowl".

What has Belichick ever accomplished without Brady? With Cleveland? Nothing. With Bledsoe? Nothing. At any other level of football? Nothing.

What has Harbaugh accomplished without Kaepernick? With Smith? NFC Championship appearance. In college? Orange Bowl victory. Div II? Turned the team around to win two consecutive league championships; not only that but developed / found Josh Johnson, a division II quarterback who was drafted in the NFL, and made several NFL rosters.

So again. What has Belichick ever done without Brady? NOTHING.

Brady is the legend. Not Belichick.

Hellava POST man!!

Baalke has done a tremendous job with our team, so I really hope ownership steps in and makes the HarBaalke connection work and shut down the league-wide chatter of haters and former casualties left wounded by the Scarlet and Gold. Harballer is proven at EVERY level...even while developing QBs and enjoying success at San Diego State. Jimbo Bleeds "GOLDEN STATE" Football!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
Overall, I think Baalke's done a good job of managing the cap and acquiring good players for Harbaugh. I also have to point out he (Baalke) is the one constant between both Singletary's and Harbaugh's tenures as head coaches. Neither head coach has had a particularly great relationship with him. What I'm suggesting is it's possible Baalke's perhaps a bigger part of the rift between the FO and the bench than we think or may know of. I get Harbaugh's personality and Baalke's may not mesh that well. I agree JH should get a contract extension...but not as the highest paid head coach, because although he's led his team to 3 consecutive playoffs and one SB, his record pales in comparison to someone like Belichick, who has 3 Lombardi's and has kept his team among the NFL's elite for well over a decade. The other thing is I think it's time Jed York put on his big-boy panties and quell all the hoopla by telling both Baalke and Harbaugh "we're in this together and I expect cooperation at all levels to insure we win another Super Bowl".

Nice post!

REAL SH^T bro agree. I just would hate to have HC Har to walk over a couple xtra mill a year (although its not my money and doesn't affect the CAP) and mainly "principle" and pride.....b/c Im not high on any NFL coach replacing him and duplicating his success. On the other hand I do believe, while I'm one of HARBS biggest fans and hate to nitpick b/c ALL great coaches make mistakes (including Sean P & Belck), but the last 2 decisions or lack thereof in the 2012 SB and 2013 NFCCG by not calling a TO with basically a rookie QB on the field with the game on the line-----should be factored into this equation when contract extensions to become highest paid coach in NFL are discussed.
so so job ..if you like a why we have lost in the past 3 post season ..one common factor a wr ....after giants nfc championship ...he has 2 draft to find another receiver ...we picked up .moss .mannigham..boldin & our problem is still not solved...
Originally posted by canadian49erfan:
None of the above, he has been trying, UFAs just do not want anything to do with SF.

This is based on what? Everyone knows the niners are interested in keeping their own and the front office and GM must think of the future and the Salary cap-otherwise we end up like when they first started the cap and we bled and died with carmen and dwight in charge.

Look at some of the UFA signings now a days that have failed more often than not including our own.

Too many people are into making a splash just to make THEMSELVES FEEL better about their team or as the saying goes all show no go or something without substance.
Originally posted by 15crabtree:
so so job ..if you like a why we have lost in the past 3 post season ..one common factor a wr ....after giants nfc championship ...he has 2 draft to find another receiver ...we picked up .moss .mannigham..boldin & our problem is still not solved...
You say so so, I say look at the system in place. I am sure a majority of teams and fans would like to have the last three seasons that the niners have had. We are not a passing system team and we are in the third year. 1 1/2 if you take from a QB starting in our system. While the others sucked Boldin was a great p/u, put the blame on where it lies, coaches put their players in a position to win we came up short. This includes Kyle Williams, coaching him right even on game day on what to do not to do especially in certain situations. Against the Ravens and Seattle- one more good play. If you are looking for Fritz or Megatron- theyare rare players and you have to be a loser to get one of those. Trade away the future for a Julio and get inconsisten team play like the Falcons?

I say he has been doing a really good job-not great. Soso is like for teams that are 8-8 to 10-6.
Baalke has done a standout job as GM. Harbaugh's ability to develop quarterbacks trumps anything that Baalke has done or will do.
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Baalke has done a standout job as GM. Harbaugh's ability to develop quarterbacks trumps anything that Baalke has done or will do.

Except he hasn't developed anyone yet. CK has tons of raw talent coming out of every pore in his body BUT he still leads a 30th ranked offense at the end of the day and ESPN the Magazine showed that Kaepernick had an accuracy rating of 54.6 percent under pressure last season, the worst mark in the NFL. Meanwhile, he was sacked on 20.2 percent of snaps when under duress, the fourth-worst rate among starters. Alex Smith used to be sacked a ton as well under Harbaugh's oversight but had a much higher completion percentage and spread the ball around much better but didn't have the explosive ability or upside CK has. Also, there are still many questions and concerns around CK's footwork, basic QB mechanics, one-read abilities, accuracy outside the sideline/intermediate passes, decision making esp. in the RZ, lack of use and accuracy in the short and deep passing game, etc. Let's also note too that CK was considered by many, most fans to have "regressed" last year.

Personally, with this archaic offense, I'd still need 2 more years before being in position to say, "Harbaugh developed CK."
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Baalke has done a standout job as GM. Harbaugh's ability to develop quarterbacks trumps anything that Baalke has done or will do.
You let us get Matt Millen in here and let us see him trump that! And a QB can't win by himself. He needs help from his GM as well in the form of a defense and a running game. Ask Peyton Rodgers Brees and Brady about that these last couple seasons. Just because Stafford throws for 5000 doesn't equate to chips!
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Mar 2, 2014 at 7:47 AM ]
Originally posted by BrianGO:
What has Belichick ever accomplished without Brady? With Cleveland? Nothing. With Bledsoe? Nothing. At any other level of football? Nothing.

What has Harbaugh accomplished without Kaepernick? With Smith? NFC Championship appearance. In college? Orange Bowl victory. Div II? Turned the team around to win two consecutive league championships; not only that but developed / found Josh Johnson, a division II quarterback who was drafted in the NFL, and made several NFL rosters.

So again. What has Belichick ever done without Brady? NOTHING.

Brady is the legend. Not Belichick.

Well, you could argue that they went 11-5 without Brady, let alone with matt Cassell. Brady and bellicheck are both legends.