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Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Can we give some props to Trent Baalke?

Originally posted by AthensGaNiner:
Again, I don't think we can grade Baalke's performance until we actually see some games played with the new guys. That being said, I've been really impressed with how we approached this FA period. As the economics lesson a few posts back pointed out, the market was flooded, and that enabled us to address needs without over spending. Baalke took advantage of a unique situation created by the lockout. I'd say fairly well played for a new GM.

I also like how we didn't over commit to our acquisitions. The more proven guys get 3 year deals, which allows the team time to address those spots for the future through the draft, while the guys with a question mark or two are on one year deals. It will be interesting to see how the FO handles that, in the event that Edwards or Rogers are having really strong years at the midpoint of the season.

Lastly, someone on here suggested that the Whitner vs Goldson situation involved more luck than anything. While I agree that Whitner's availability was fortunate, it should be noted that the team had intended to resign Goldson all along, but at a specific price. When it appeared that Goldson wasn't going to come off his demands for more money, the team went out and aggressively pursued another quality player to take his spot. They managed to essentially steal him from another team, and didn't have to break the bank to do so. So, while Whitner may not have been the plan from the start, I think this move shows a nice ability to react to a situation and adjust your plan to fit the circumstances. Or, as Gunny Highway would put it, "you improvise, you adapt, you overcome."

Overall, I'm impressed with the moves on paper. Let's see how they play out during the season.

I totally agree that it looks like a probable upgrade and at a reasonable price. I am also sure that the coaching staff was involved with selecting who fits their new schemes best too and that should be another plus. From scratching my head one week to a huge smile the next week ....... can't wait.
Is it just me or does Trent Baalke always have this look on his face that says "don't fu¢k with me". It's like a thousand yard stare that could pierce the soul of any agent at a negotiating table.

Trent has done a great job in free agency in my opinion. He has filled all of our big holes without overspending. That is all you could ask for from a GM.
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Originally posted by goodthings19:
Is it just me or does Trent Baalke always have this look on his face that says "don't fu¢k with me". It's like a thousand yard stare that could pierce the soul of any agent at a negotiating table.

Trent has done a great job in free agency in my opinion. He has filled all of our big holes without overspending. That is all you could ask for from a GM.

Trent could f*ck your mother and there would be nothing you could do about it. It would be a 1 year contract with no guarantees. Stone cold.
Everyone was failing him before the organization signed Edwards. No one, including myself, expected the Niners to go out and get a no. 1 WO. I'm just glad we have some level of competence in the front office now.

If Alex can figure out how to stop noodle-arming throws over the top, we might be a contender this season. It's going to be an interesting one.
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by goodthings19:
Is it just me or does Trent Baalke always have this look on his face that says "don't fu¢k with me". It's like a thousand yard stare that could pierce the soul of any agent at a negotiating table.

Trent has done a great job in free agency in my opinion. He has filled all of our big holes without overspending. That is all you could ask for from a GM.

Trent could f*ck your mother and there would be nothing you could do about it. It would be a 1 year contract with no guarantees. Stone cold.

He'd tell you, he has a plan and now he's executing it...close the f*ckin door!
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by goodthings19:
Is it just me or does Trent Baalke always have this look on his face that says "don't fu¢k with me". It's like a thousand yard stare that could pierce the soul of any agent at a negotiating table.

Trent has done a great job in free agency in my opinion. He has filled all of our big holes without overspending. That is all you could ask for from a GM.

Trent could f*ck your mother and there would be nothing you could do about it. It would be a 1 year contract with no guarantees. Stone cold.

lol i can see him and stone cold steve austin throwing back a beer togather after that!!!
I believe Baalke will save some money to resign the players he sees produce to longer contracts before they become free agents. Now there were no player except Baas that fit that description last year but there might be quite a few this next year.
I gave him a F for losing Franklin and Clements. The Edwards and Whitner grabs raised it up to a C-. I still dont think we will recover from Franklins loss but Clements is easily fixed with a aggressive pass rush. Ill be changing this again if we can get veteran NT later on.
Originally posted by jimmy49erfan:
I gave him a F for losing Franklin and Clements. The Edwards and Whitner grabs raised it up to a C-. I still dont think we will recover from Franklins loss but Clements is easily fixed with a aggressive pass rush. Ill be changing this again if we can get veteran NT later on.

If he can stay healthy I think you will be surprised how well Sopoaga does as Franklins replacement. Rogers will be an upgrade over Clements. Whitner, Goodwin and Edwards were not only great signings but filled big needs. Baalke is doing a great job.
I think to grade Baalke's FA work, one has to look at each position and if there has been an overall upgrade or downgrade due to a signing or loss.

Hence, here is how I would grade Trent...

QB Because a third QB has not been added yet, he gets an incomplete here.
RB Only camp fodder added. No upgrade or downgrade ( no U or D).
OL May need another vet body before the season starts but as of now, no U or D.
WR I don't think anyone can argue that with Edwards signing, this is a big upgrade.
TE Adding Reuland and Cloherty were good moves, especially considering the injury to Byham....upgrade

DL Although it is still unknown how much losing Franklin will affect the defense overall, I think it is safe to say that this position has taken a bit of a hit.....downgrade.
LB Even though Spikes is a loss in terms of leadership and the team loses a pretty solid starter in Lawson, the team has added some good depth with Grant and Applewhite (and a possible stud in Aldon Smith). I think the group has been upgraded but at this stage, let's give this a break even grade (No U or D).
CB Even if you think the addition of Rogers offsets the loss of Clements, this unit has not been hurt. Personally, I feel this unit is better now but for the sake of argument...(no U or D).
S Again, adding Whitner and Williams give the group more leadership and talent so I feel this unit is better overall, even considering the loss of Goldson....upgrade.

Overall, I feel only one unit on the team has been really hurt in the FA period thus far and that is the DL, and the team may still take a step or two to improve it. With upgrades at WR, TE, and S, one would have to give Trent at least a solid B grade. I give him a B+ because I think he also slightly upgraded the CB position. Nice job overall.
[ Edited by nw9erfan on Aug 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM ]
Originally posted by Willisfn4life:
Originally posted by WWFGD:
Originally posted by goodthings19:
Is it just me or does Trent Baalke always have this look on his face that says "don't fu¢k with me". It's like a thousand yard stare that could pierce the soul of any agent at a negotiating table.

Trent has done a great job in free agency in my opinion. He has filled all of our big holes without overspending. That is all you could ask for from a GM.

Trent could f*ck your mother and there would be nothing you could do about it. It would be a 1 year contract with no guarantees. Stone cold.

He'd tell you, he has a plan and now he's executing it...close the f*ckin door!

Originally posted by nw9erfan:
I think to grade Baalke's FA work, one has to look at each position and if there has been an overall upgrade or downgrade due to a signing or loss.

Hence, here is how I would grade Trent...

QB Because a third QB has not been added yet, he gets an incomplete here.
RB Only camp fodder added. No upgrade or downgrade ( no U or D).
OL May need another vet body before the season starts but as of now, no U or D.
WR I don't think anyone can argue that with Edwards signing, this is a big upgrade.
TE Adding Reuland and Cloherty were good moves, especially considering the injury to Byham....upgrade

DL Although it is still unknown how much losing Franklin will affect the defense overall, I think it is safe to say that this position has taken a bit of a hit.....downgrade.
LB Even though Spikes is a loss in terms of leadership and the team loses a pretty solid starter in Lawson, the team has added some good depth with Grant and Applewhite (and a possible stud in Aldon Smith). I think the group has been upgraded but at this stage, let's give this a break even grade (No U or D).
CB Even if you think the addition of Rogers offsets the loss of Clements, this unit has not been hurt. Personally, I feel this unit is better now but for the sake of argument...(no U or D).
S Again, adding Whitner and Williams give the group more leadership and talent so I feel this unit is better overall, even considering the loss of Goldson....upgrade.

Overall, I feel only one unit on the team has been really hurt in the FA period thus far and that is the DL, and the team may still take a step or two to improve it. With upgrades at WR, TE, and S, one would have to give Trent at least a solid B grade. I give him a B+ because I think he also slightly upgraded the CB position. Nice job overall.

Very nice look at each position of the team and I agree. I think Harbaugh will make this a very competitive, fast and hungry team every time they take the field
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
I think to grade Baalke's FA work, one has to look at each position and if there has been an overall upgrade or downgrade due to a signing or loss.

Hence, here is how I would grade Trent...

QB Because a third QB has not been added yet, he gets an incomplete here.
RB Only camp fodder added. No upgrade or downgrade ( no U or D).
OL May need another vet body before the season starts but as of now, no U or D.
WR I don't think anyone can argue that with Edwards signing, this is a big upgrade.
TE Adding Reuland and Cloherty were good moves, especially considering the injury to Byham....upgrade

DL Although it is still unknown how much losing Franklin will affect the defense overall, I think it is safe to say that this position has taken a bit of a hit.....downgrade.
LB Even though Spikes is a loss in terms of leadership and the team loses a pretty solid starter in Lawson, the team has added some good depth with Grant and Applewhite (and a possible stud in Aldon Smith). I think the group has been upgraded but at this stage, let's give this a break even grade (No U or D).
CB Even if you think the addition of Rogers offsets the loss of Clements, this unit has not been hurt. Personally, I feel this unit is better now but for the sake of argument...(no U or D).
S Again, adding Whitner and Williams give the group more leadership and talent so I feel this unit is better overall, even considering the loss of Goldson....upgrade.

Overall, I feel only one unit on the team has been really hurt in the FA period thus far and that is the DL, and the team may still take a step or two to improve it. With upgrades at WR, TE, and S, one would have to give Trent at least a solid B grade. I give him a B+ because I think he also slightly upgraded the CB position. Nice job overall.


- GOOD POST.......I like to add on what you posted plus you missed a few.

Ian Williams - Is looking like a great pick up on the NT spot. I'm hoping that Sopoaga can be a good NT, but we shall see. The last time he tried it, he wasn't that good, but that was a long time ago. Also I think Soaps was wasted as a DE. That guy would not be good in screens. I think Ray Mcdonald becoming a starter is key. The guy is fast and can play the run and rush the passer.

Aldon Smith - You can say we upgraded the DL and LB by picking him.

David Akers - Nedney is a big loss, and right away Baalke signs one of the best kickers in the league. Great pick up.

Dashon Goldson - I actually met Dashon Goldson in LA. I think the guy has got BIG HEAD disease. Supposedly the niners offered Goldson more money than Ray McDonald and he got 20 Million.....so I think the guy is getting bad advice. It sucks that he is now forced into a position and has to go elsewhere, but at least the 49ers weren't being cheap. I'm hoping that Reggie Smith can be our interception FS.

Overall Baalke is doing a fantastic Job. I admit I was a little bit pissed in the beginnnig of FA, and when Joseph and Ndami signed.....I was really concerned that we weren't going to get Carlos Rogers and then that started the Domino affect.

I think too that changing some of the leaders (clements, spikes, franklin, Goldson) gives the 49ers a chance to forge their new identity and move forward and not cling to last years defense. I'm hoping for a PASS RUSH this year. It's been a really long time since we had any "consistent" pass rush. (Charles Haley was the last real threat).
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
I think to grade Baalke's FA work, one has to look at each position and if there has been an overall upgrade or downgrade due to a signing or loss.

Hence, here is how I would grade Trent...

QB Because a third QB has not been added yet, he gets an incomplete here.
RB Only camp fodder added. No upgrade or downgrade ( no U or D).
OL May need another vet body before the season starts but as of now, no U or D.
WR I don't think anyone can argue that with Edwards signing, this is a big upgrade.
TE Adding Reuland and Cloherty were good moves, especially considering the injury to Byham....upgrade

DL Although it is still unknown how much losing Franklin will affect the defense overall, I think it is safe to say that this position has taken a bit of a hit.....downgrade.
LB Even though Spikes is a loss in terms of leadership and the team loses a pretty solid starter in Lawson, the team has added some good depth with Grant and Applewhite (and a possible stud in Aldon Smith). I think the group has been upgraded but at this stage, let's give this a break even grade (No U or D).
CB Even if you think the addition of Rogers offsets the loss of Clements, this unit has not been hurt. Personally, I feel this unit is better now but for the sake of argument...(no U or D).
S Again, adding Whitner and Williams give the group more leadership and talent so I feel this unit is better overall, even considering the loss of Goldson....upgrade.

Overall, I feel only one unit on the team has been really hurt in the FA period thus far and that is the DL, and the team may still take a step or two to improve it. With upgrades at WR, TE, and S, one would have to give Trent at least a solid B grade. I give him a B+ because I think he also slightly upgraded the CB position. Nice job overall.

good post and I agree. Who knows, with RayMac out there more we might be better on the DL too. I wish we couldve kept Franklin and benched Soap for Raymac. Would've gave us depth and a better combo IMO
Originally posted by Oldschool9erfan:
Originally posted by nw9erfan:
I think to grade Baalke's FA work, one has to look at each position and if there has been an overall upgrade or downgrade due to a signing or loss.

Hence, here is how I would grade Trent...

QB Because a third QB has not been added yet, he gets an incomplete here.
RB Only camp fodder added. No upgrade or downgrade ( no U or D).
OL May need another vet body before the season starts but as of now, no U or D.
WR I don't think anyone can argue that with Edwards signing, this is a big upgrade.
TE Adding Reuland and Cloherty were good moves, especially considering the injury to Byham....upgrade

DL Although it is still unknown how much losing Franklin will affect the defense overall, I think it is safe to say that this position has taken a bit of a hit.....downgrade.
LB Even though Spikes is a loss in terms of leadership and the team loses a pretty solid starter in Lawson, the team has added some good depth with Grant and Applewhite (and a possible stud in Aldon Smith). I think the group has been upgraded but at this stage, let's give this a break even grade (No U or D).
CB Even if you think the addition of Rogers offsets the loss of Clements, this unit has not been hurt. Personally, I feel this unit is better now but for the sake of argument...(no U or D).
S Again, adding Whitner and Williams give the group more leadership and talent so I feel this unit is better overall, even considering the loss of Goldson....upgrade.

Overall, I feel only one unit on the team has been really hurt in the FA period thus far and that is the DL, and the team may still take a step or two to improve it. With upgrades at WR, TE, and S, one would have to give Trent at least a solid B grade. I give him a B+ because I think he also slightly upgraded the CB position. Nice job overall.


- GOOD POST.......I like to add on what you posted plus you missed a few.

Ian Williams - Is looking like a great pick up on the NT spot. I'm hoping that Sopoaga can be a good NT, but we shall see. The last time he tried it, he wasn't that good, but that was a long time ago. Also I think Soaps was wasted as a DE. That guy would not be good in screens. I think Ray Mcdonald becoming a starter is key. The guy is fast and can play the run and rush the passer.

Aldon Smith - You can say we upgraded the DL and LB by picking him.

David Akers - Nedney is a big loss, and right away Baalke signs one of the best kickers in the league. Great pick up.

Dashon Goldson - I actually met Dashon Goldson in LA. I think the guy has got BIG HEAD disease. Supposedly the niners offered Goldson more money than Ray McDonald and he got 20 Million.....so I think the guy is getting bad advice. It sucks that he is now forced into a position and has to go elsewhere, but at least the 49ers weren't being cheap. I'm hoping that Reggie Smith can be our interception FS.

Overall Baalke is doing a fantastic Job. I admit I was a little bit pissed in the beginnnig of FA, and when Joseph and Ndami signed.....I was really concerned that we weren't going to get Carlos Rogers and then that started the Domino affect.

I think too that changing some of the leaders (clements, spikes, franklin, Goldson) gives the 49ers a chance to forge their new identity and move forward and not cling to last years defense. I'm hoping for a PASS RUSH this year. It's been a really long time since we had any "consistent" pass rush. (Charles Haley was the last real threat).

Great post, I didn't think of it in the way of bringing some new guys to kind of change the attitude and culture along with Harbaugh and his coaches