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Do free agents want to play for the 49ers ?

Originally posted by TX9R:
Originally posted by 9erred:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by susweel:
Been thinking about this free agency and I've come to the conclusion that most free agents dont want to play for the 49ers.



The team hasn't been relevant in the NFL for almost a decade.
And it will take a premium FA price to overcome this, even then, by the time a player has been in the league 4 or 5 years, he wants to be on a team with a future.

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Ownership is known as cheap asses around the league.
I don't agree with cheap, just don't know what they are doing. You go from Daddy York who had NO CLUE how to run an NFL franchise to a 28 YOS college kid who had never run anything...and you expect players, via their agent's advice, to respect that? No way.
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Rookie HC and rookie GM.
Yep, that will get figured in. More the coach than the GM but don't overlook the agent's advice to the player about how the GM operates.
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Worst stadium in the NFL.
A factor but a lesser one.
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Cost of living is high and state taxes are high.
This is a HUGE one if you are comparing to states like Texas with no state income tax. It automatically means the 49ers have to pay 11% more than the Texans or Cowboys just to stay even in the bidding. Now that we are in a salary cap situation, that could well have been the deal breaker in the J. Joseph sweepstakes.

All us 49ers fans that live in California have chosen, or been forced to overlook some of the negatives of living here. We are here by choice or family or job, but for players who have multiple options in other states, they will look more critically at things like the cost of living and the highest tax rate in the nation.

We may get Asomugha. I will be surprised and delighted if we do, but for a lot of the rest of the FA pool, the fact that Spikes and Baas left so quickly when given the chance tells me that they do not see this franchise as having much chance for success. Others will see that and it will influence their decision.


The only way we really can get top notch players is if we over pay.


am I wrong on this one ???

You need to get players who grew up in the bay area and want to play in front of the hometown crowd, (ie Nedney, Brent Jones, etc). Heck if the niners focused on drafting players from Cal and Stanford, they might do all right.

Vastly over played sentiment. Pros want to get paid and work with a good organization. This whole guys from Cali thing is a myth. And if you focused on drafting from those schools, you'd have one sorry ass team. Yep, being a Cal guy didn't work out so well for Nnamdi.

BOTTOM LINE: Harbaugh and staff will have to work some wonders with the current roster to build some respect around the league. That is going to take some time. We are in the process of losing four starters from last season, all of them from important positions. More losses may be on the way. (Baas, Spikes, Franklin, Clements; assume Lawson and possibly Goldson) Even though there are some young players on the roster, it is highly unlikely they will perform as well as what has left. The result is that this will likely be a two year project to get this team to .500.

I don't mean to be Negative Nancy but this franchise just does not have much to appeal to a player with any kind of choices at all.
Originally posted by kray28:
Niners have a built a reputation....and it will take a long time to overcome that reputation.

Basically they have to build from within and become contenders. They will not get free agent freebies for sure.

So find, develop, and build your talent the old fashioned way. It all starts with a franchise level commitment to winning, one that simply doesn't exist now.[/quote]




With all due respect, if that was the case, we wouldn't have made the move for Harbaugh and sht canned Sing and his crew. (Have to start some where). I believe the FO understood we HAD to pump the brakes and move in a completely new direction, but like you said, we're not committed to winning.


[ Edited by ObePwnD on Jul 29, 2011 at 11:41:39 ]
Just for yucks, I put together a little worksheet showing what the salary caps would need to be for every NFL team based on cost of living in the area. The COLA was taken from this site and unlike many I looked at, factors in state and local taxes in addition to other major costs (food/utilities/etc). Of course this is an inexact science and based on generalized variables, but I think it's still interesting, and may help to demonstrate something that will affect the decisions of free agents when considering a new team. Jacksonville has the lowest aggregate costs of any of the NFL cities, and I used them as the base with a $120MM cap. I also factored in nearby cities where NFL players are likely to reside, so, for instance, I used Santa Clara for the 49ers, Scottsdale for the Cardinals, etc.

Sorry I don't know how to format this as a table in this forum, but you'll get the idea.

Team Equivalent Cap

Arizona 148,176,127

Atlanta 153,838,116

Baltimore 146,402,255

Buffalo 158,963,363

Carolina 167,678,536

Chicago 136,423,043

Cincinnatti 176,307,161

Cleveland 175,644,595

Dallas 120,047,274

Denver 145,778,236

Detroit 142,127,216

Green Bay 158,359,708

Houston 120,041,456

Indianapolis 142,650,868

Jacksonville 120,000,000

Kansas City 125,350,708

Miami 120,040,001

Minnesota 165,188,278

New England 149,728,901

New Orleans 146,734,628

NY Giants 159,342,283

NY Jets 159,975,757

Oakland 174,644,565

Philadelphia 135,256,462

Pittsburgh 140,930,089

San Diego 174,426,377

San Francisco 174,550,744

Seattle 120,118,549

St. Louis 125,346,344

Tampa Bay 120,005,091

Tennessee 120,004,364

Washington 174,427,831
No love for SF.
Originally posted by susweel:
No love for SF.

*sigh*

I just want the season to start.
Originally posted by 49erThrowback:
Just for yucks, I put together a little worksheet showing what the salary caps would need to be for every NFL team based on cost of living in the area. The COLA was taken from this site and unlike many I looked at, factors in state and local taxes in addition to other major costs (food/utilities/etc). Of course this is an inexact science and based on generalized variables, but I think it's still interesting, and may help to demonstrate something that will affect the decisions of free agents when considering a new team. Jacksonville has the lowest aggregate costs of any of the NFL cities, and I used them as the base with a $120MM cap. I also factored in nearby cities where NFL players are likely to reside, so, for instance, I used Santa Clara for the 49ers, Scottsdale for the Cardinals, etc.

Sorry I don't know how to format this as a table in this forum, but you'll get the idea.

Team Equivalent Cap

Arizona 148,176,127

Atlanta 153,838,116

Baltimore 146,402,255

Buffalo 158,963,363

Carolina 167,678,536

Chicago 136,423,043

Cincinnatti 176,307,161

Cleveland 175,644,595

Dallas 120,047,274

Denver 145,778,236

Detroit 142,127,216

Green Bay 158,359,708

Houston 120,041,456

Indianapolis 142,650,868

Jacksonville 120,000,000

Kansas City 125,350,708

Miami 120,040,001

Minnesota 165,188,278

New England 149,728,901

New Orleans 146,734,628

NY Giants 159,342,283

NY Jets 159,975,757

Oakland 174,644,565

Philadelphia 135,256,462

Pittsburgh 140,930,089

San Diego 174,426,377

San Francisco 174,550,744

Seattle 120,118,549

St. Louis 125,346,344

Tampa Bay 120,005,091

Tennessee 120,004,364

Washington 174,427,831


Philadelphia 135,256,462

Pittsburgh 140,930,089

San Diego 174,426,377

San Francisco 174,550,744

I'm not sure what this proves but that's pretty good company no?
David Akers does
if fa will sign with teams like sea and ari then they will definately sign with the niners.
Not with Alex Smith as the QB
who have we offered a contract to? Other than Nnamdi and Kruetz all its been is interest
Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
Not with Alex Smith as the QB

I don't think Alex is the problem, I think its the unproven program in place. Think College recruiting, if a losing program is trying to recruit you, and they have a new coach and new staff.... You have no clue what you are about to get yourself into, maybe next offseason once players see what we have going on here they might jump over here.
Originally posted by sachie23:
who have we offered a contract to? Other than Nnamdi and Kruetz all its been is interest

Do we have any idea what the Nnambi offer looked like?
Originally posted by sachie23:
who have we offered a contract to? Other than Nnamdi and Kruetz all its been is interest

I hope we offer Burress something
Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Originally posted by PatrickWillisHOF:
Not with Alex Smith as the QB

I don't think Alex is the problem, I think its the unproven program in place. Think College recruiting, if a losing program is trying to recruit you, and they have a new coach and new staff.... You have no clue what you are about to get yourself into, maybe next offseason once players see what we have going on here they might jump over here.

but again, I don't even think the team is making offers. Just seems like a lot of "interest" and no action.
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by sachie23:
who have we offered a contract to? Other than Nnamdi and Kruetz all its been is interest

I hope we offer Burress something

Isn't the Giants steve smith still out there?