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Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
Smith stinks. Just face it. O-line was garbage tonight. Totally unprepared to face the blitz. Should have been like the Raiders. Admit you blew it with the first pick and move on. Don't resign the problem. Unbelievable.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
After game 1, it is obvious ALex Smith doesnt have the accuracy to be extremely successful in the west coast offense. Too much of this offense relies on accuracy. ALex had three passing attempts where a good accurate throw would have resulted in a nice gain. He made one good accurate throw in three tries. Two of the throws were god awful. At least today, he was still doing the same things he has been doing for the past 6 years, that leads me to believe that he is the same old ALex.
After game 1, it is obvious that Colin Kaepernick is not nearly experienced/polished enough to to be our starter in 2011. He had some impressive plays, some rookie mistakes and some poor decisions. But he did he hit a couple slants very nicely. There is clearly potential here, but he is far too green IMO.
Sigh.
Originally posted by TheGoldDiggerrrr:for the most part....this
Originally posted by LeftBankeNiner:
Smith stinks. Just face it. O-line was garbage tonight. Totally unprepared to face the blitz. Should have been like the Raiders. Admit you blew it with the first pick and move on. Don't resign the problem. Unbelievable.
You can't start colin, and david carr was trash! Fixing the oline, and then getting weapons for colin, why he learns, and alex takes the hits it's ok with me.
Originally posted by 49erDynasty:
After observing many quarterbacks come and go across the league for decades, Alex Smith appears to be a quarterback that can be successful. Given a great offensive line, great defense and great system, he can probably be a Super Bowl quarterback at least in the mold of Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Dilfer. Then again, a great defense, great system, and great offensive line are the fundamentals of championship football. The tragedy in this is that after having defensive minded head coaches selecting players in drafts for the last several years, this defense still hasn't reached the higher echelons. That is a tremendous failure of the the previous coaching staff and decision makers. The defense is one area that should have been superb by now. It should have been able to win games despite limited output by the offense. Harbaugh's entrance replacing Nolan/Singletary should have been like Jon Gruden's in Tampa Bay when replacing Tony Dungy, with a top defense already established.
In regards to this defense, last season's loss to the New Orleans Saints immediately comes to mind. In 1981, when Joe Montana led the 49ers on a drive that culminated in "The Catch" by Dwight Clark, what happened subsequently is often overlooked. Danny White and the Dallas Cowboys were swiftly marching down field and if it had not been for an amazing open field tackle by Eric Wright, "The Catch" may have been as insignificant as the Vernon Davis catch to tie the game against New Orleans. Ronnie Lott, Montana and Clark often mention this play when speaking of the road to the first Super Bowl. With that in perspective, had the 49er defense held Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints like the 49er defense held Dallas in 1981, the 49ers would have had a legitimate chance to defeat the Super Bowl champions and build great momentum and confidence into the season.
Alex Smith has the mobility for a WCO quarterback and good passing ability when given time. Almost all weaknesses can be eliminated by a precisely orchestrated timing offense. If the coaching staff can immediately and significantly improve those aforementioned three faltering areas needed for championship caliber teams, Alex Smith could see a natural climb to success.
He isn't a quick trigger accurate, rocket armed quarterback like Dan Marino, that can jettison the ball within arms reach of his target on almost every play. For all the records and accolades, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre have only one Super Bowl victory, the same as Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson. In 80's-90's 49er mentality, football was like a race, where the first runner up, was the first loser. It was Super Bowl victory or failure. With that in mind, Dan Marino never even won a Super Bowl. The only player in current times that measures up to that 49er standard is Bay Area product, Tom Brady, who happens to belong to the most outstanding organization of the decade. That in itself should be indicative of the importance and necessity of an excellent, well rounded team. At a glance, Alex Smith has the right attributes to win within a superior system. As for Colin Kaepernick, it is too early to make any predictions. He has a lot to learn before he can be evaluated fairly and adequately. For him, it will take at least a full year of great coaching and practice. In the meantime, the team likely already has a quarterback that can win, as long as the rest of the organization can be stellar as they should be. That's the challenge for Harbaugh and his staff.
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by 49erDynasty:
After observing many quarterbacks come and go across the league for decades, Alex Smith appears to be a quarterback that can be successful. Given a great offensive line, great defense and great system, he can probably be a Super Bowl quarterback at least in the mold of Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Dilfer. Then again, a great defense, great system, and great offensive line are the fundamentals of championship football. The tragedy in this is that after having defensive minded head coaches selecting players in drafts for the last several years, this defense still hasn't reached the higher echelons. That is a tremendous failure of the the previous coaching staff and decision makers. The defense is one area that should have been superb by now. It should have been able to win games despite limited output by the offense. Harbaugh's entrance replacing Nolan/Singletary should have been like Jon Gruden's in Tampa Bay when replacing Tony Dungy, with a top defense already established.
In regards to this defense, last season's loss to the New Orleans Saints immediately comes to mind. In 1981, when Joe Montana led the 49ers on a drive that culminated in "The Catch" by Dwight Clark, what happened subsequently is often overlooked. Danny White and the Dallas Cowboys were swiftly marching down field and if it had not been for an amazing open field tackle by Eric Wright, "The Catch" may have been as insignificant as the Vernon Davis catch to tie the game against New Orleans. Ronnie Lott, Montana and Clark often mention this play when speaking of the road to the first Super Bowl. With that in perspective, had the 49er defense held Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints like the 49er defense held Dallas in 1981, the 49ers would have had a legitimate chance to defeat the Super Bowl champions and build great momentum and confidence into the season.
Alex Smith has the mobility for a WCO quarterback and good passing ability when given time. Almost all weaknesses can be eliminated by a precisely orchestrated timing offense. If the coaching staff can immediately and significantly improve those aforementioned three faltering areas needed for championship caliber teams, Alex Smith could see a natural climb to success.
He isn't a quick trigger accurate, rocket armed quarterback like Dan Marino, that can jettison the ball within arms reach of his target on almost every play. For all the records and accolades, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre have only one Super Bowl victory, the same as Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson. In 80's-90's 49er mentality, football was like a race, where the first runner up, was the first loser. It was Super Bowl victory or failure. With that in mind, Dan Marino never even won a Super Bowl. The only player in current times that measures up to that 49er standard is Bay Area product, Tom Brady, who happens to belong to the most outstanding organization of the decade. That in itself should be indicative of the importance and necessity of an excellent, well rounded team. At a glance, Alex Smith has the right attributes to win within a superior system. As for Colin Kaepernick, it is too early to make any predictions. He has a lot to learn before he can be evaluated fairly and adequately. For him, it will take at least a full year of great coaching and practice. In the meantime, the team likely already has a quarterback that can win, as long as the rest of the organization can be stellar as they should be. That's the challenge for Harbaugh and his staff.
Nice to see a well thought out post. Thanks man.
Originally posted by 49erDynasty:
After observing many quarterbacks come and go across the league for decades, Alex Smith appears to be a quarterback that can be successful. Given a great offensive line, great defense and great system, he can probably be a Super Bowl quarterback at least in the mold of Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Dilfer. Then again, a great defense, great system, and great offensive line are the fundamentals of championship football. The tragedy in this is that after having defensive minded head coaches selecting players in drafts for the last several years, this defense still hasn't reached the higher echelons. That is a tremendous failure of the the previous coaching staff and decision makers. The defense is one area that should have been superb by now. It should have been able to win games despite limited output by the offense. Harbaugh's entrance replacing Nolan/Singletary should have been like Jon Gruden's in Tampa Bay when replacing Tony Dungy, with a top defense already established.
In regards to this defense, last season's loss to the New Orleans Saints immediately comes to mind. In 1981, when Joe Montana led the 49ers on a drive that culminated in "The Catch" by Dwight Clark, what happened subsequently is often overlooked. Danny White and the Dallas Cowboys were swiftly marching down field and if it had not been for an amazing open field tackle by Eric Wright, "The Catch" may have been as insignificant as the Vernon Davis catch to tie the game against New Orleans. Ronnie Lott, Montana and Clark often mention this play when speaking of the road to the first Super Bowl. With that in perspective, had the 49er defense held Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints like the 49er defense held Dallas in 1981, the 49ers would have had a legitimate chance to defeat the Super Bowl champions and build great momentum and confidence into the season.
Alex Smith has the mobility for a WCO quarterback and good passing ability when given time. Almost all weaknesses can be eliminated by a precisely orchestrated timing offense. If the coaching staff can immediately and significantly improve those aforementioned three faltering areas needed for championship caliber teams, Alex Smith could see a natural climb to success.
He isn't a quick trigger accurate, rocket armed quarterback like Dan Marino, that can jettison the ball within arms reach of his target on almost every play. For all the records and accolades, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre have only one Super Bowl victory, the same as Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson. In 80's-90's 49er mentality, football was like a race, where the first runner up, was the first loser. It was Super Bowl victory or failure. With that in mind, Dan Marino never even won a Super Bowl. The only player in current times that measures up to that 49er standard is Bay Area product, Tom Brady, who happens to belong to the most outstanding organization of the decade. That in itself should be indicative of the importance and necessity of an excellent, well rounded team. At a glance, Alex Smith has the right attributes to win within a superior system. As for Colin Kaepernick, it is too early to make any predictions. He has a lot to learn before he can be evaluated fairly and adequately. For him, it will take at least a full year of great coaching and practice. In the meantime, the team likely already has a quarterback that can win, as long as the rest of the organization can be stellar as they should be. That's the challenge for Harbaugh and his staff.
Originally posted by BobS:
Originally posted by 49erDynasty:
After observing many quarterbacks come and go across the league for decades, Alex Smith appears to be a quarterback that can be successful. Given a great offensive line, great defense and great system, he can probably be a Super Bowl quarterback at least in the mold of Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Matt Hasselbeck or Trent Dilfer. Then again, a great defense, great system, and great offensive line are the fundamentals of championship football. The tragedy in this is that after having defensive minded head coaches selecting players in drafts for the last several years, this defense still hasn't reached the higher echelons. That is a tremendous failure of the the previous coaching staff and decision makers. The defense is one area that should have been superb by now. It should have been able to win games despite limited output by the offense. Harbaugh's entrance replacing Nolan/Singletary should have been like Jon Gruden's in Tampa Bay when replacing Tony Dungy, with a top defense already established.
In regards to this defense, last season's loss to the New Orleans Saints immediately comes to mind. In 1981, when Joe Montana led the 49ers on a drive that culminated in "The Catch" by Dwight Clark, what happened subsequently is often overlooked. Danny White and the Dallas Cowboys were swiftly marching down field and if it had not been for an amazing open field tackle by Eric Wright, "The Catch" may have been as insignificant as the Vernon Davis catch to tie the game against New Orleans. Ronnie Lott, Montana and Clark often mention this play when speaking of the road to the first Super Bowl. With that in perspective, had the 49er defense held Drew Brees and the New Orleans Saints like the 49er defense held Dallas in 1981, the 49ers would have had a legitimate chance to defeat the Super Bowl champions and build great momentum and confidence into the season.
Alex Smith has the mobility for a WCO quarterback and good passing ability when given time. Almost all weaknesses can be eliminated by a precisely orchestrated timing offense. If the coaching staff can immediately and significantly improve those aforementioned three faltering areas needed for championship caliber teams, Alex Smith could see a natural climb to success.
He isn't a quick trigger accurate, rocket armed quarterback like Dan Marino, that can jettison the ball within arms reach of his target on almost every play. For all the records and accolades, Peyton Manning and Brett Favre have only one Super Bowl victory, the same as Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson. In 80's-90's 49er mentality, football was like a race, where the first runner up, was the first loser. It was Super Bowl victory or failure. With that in mind, Dan Marino never even won a Super Bowl. The only player in current times that measures up to that 49er standard is Bay Area product, Tom Brady, who happens to belong to the most outstanding organization of the decade. That in itself should be indicative of the importance and necessity of an excellent, well rounded team. At a glance, Alex Smith has the right attributes to win within a superior system. As for Colin Kaepernick, it is too early to make any predictions. He has a lot to learn before he can be evaluated fairly and adequately. For him, it will take at least a full year of great coaching and practice. In the meantime, the team likely already has a quarterback that can win, as long as the rest of the organization can be stellar as they should be. That's the challenge for Harbaugh and his staff.
So Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl if the whole team carries him?
Championship!Originally posted by BobS:So Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl if the whole team carries him?
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:Wow class is in session love this post!!!
Most unnoticed aspect of Kaep's time in the game (and something you know only Harbaugh probably saw on the film), was Kaep's pocket-hitching, and quick progression judgement/route-reading advances. -During the 2nd/3rd quarter Colin was pretty sagacious (for all the chaos, he did not look lost one bit in the pocket). Towards the 4th it seemed like his receivers were not meeting their routes on time/miscommunication issues (specially within those 2 interceptions in the 4th; Ronald Johnson was pretty horrible in this game).
Although this play made my eyes widen (it's been shown in many highlight reels), before Colin was sacked on a play in the 3rd quarter (after Snyder rolled over); Kaep displayed some astounding pocket-maneuvering. -You don't see this s**t out of (rookie) system-based shotgun-heavy/pistol QBs within even their first preseason games (didn't see it out of neither Alex Smith, Gabbert, nor Tebow). -Colin was bouncing within the pocket through his progressions like a more nimble/quick-footed Matt Matt Schaub.
FRAMES ONE-TWO:
3 STEP-DROP FROM CENTER
BACK-FOOT DOWN
FRONT-FOOT ARCHED
BACK POSTURE ADJACENT TO ARCHED BACK FOOT
EYES/HEAD STRAIGHT/FORWARD
SHIN SEPARATION; ADJACENT
FRAME THREE:
2-STEP HITCH/BOUNCE (FORWARD) INTO POCKET
40 DEGREE TURN TO QB’S LEFT-SIDE
FIRST READ: KENDALL HUNTER (NOT OPEN/ATTENTIVE OF ANYTHING; 7 YARDS AHEAD OF SCRIMMAGE LINE)
FRAME FOUR:
TWO STEP DROP;BACK
TWO HITCH STEP; FORWARD-LEFT
SECOND READ: TED GINN (Y-SLOT; IN DOUBLE-COVERAGE UP A STRAIGHT POST-ROUTE)
FRAME FIVE-SIX:
HITCH STEP FORWARD
BODY POSTURING 20 DEGREES LEFT TOWARDS RONALD JOHNSON
THIRD READ: RONALD JOHNSON (SPLIT-END; CURLING A RIGHT-SLANT BACK TO COLIN; OPEN FOR A 10-12 YARD GAIN/FIRST DOWN)
*SACKED BEFORE PASS TO RONALD JOHNSON*
Posture, posture, posture.
I've never once seen Alex Smith (with all the time in the world) go through 3 progressions (yet alone 2) within a 00:02:50 second time gap. -That play was an easy first down from Kaep to Ronald Johnson if Snyder hadn't collapsed like a rag doll.
Originally posted by AirJordanXI:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:Wow class is in session love this post!!!
Most unnoticed aspect of Kaep's time in the game (and something you know only Harbaugh probably saw on the film), was Kaep's pocket-hitching, and quick progression judgement/route-reading advances. -During the 2nd/3rd quarter Colin was pretty sagacious (for all the chaos, he did not look lost one bit in the pocket). Towards the 4th it seemed like his receivers were not meeting their routes on time/miscommunication issues (specially within those 2 interceptions in the 4th; Ronald Johnson was pretty horrible in this game).
Although this play made my eyes widen (it's been shown in many highlight reels), before Colin was sacked on a play in the 3rd quarter (after Snyder rolled over); Kaep displayed some astounding pocket-maneuvering. -You don't see this s**t out of (rookie) system-based shotgun-heavy/pistol QBs within even their first preseason games (didn't see it out of neither Alex Smith, Gabbert, nor Tebow). -Colin was bouncing within the pocket through his progressions like a more nimble/quick-footed Matt Matt Schaub.
FRAMES ONE-TWO:
3 STEP-DROP FROM CENTER
BACK-FOOT DOWN
FRONT-FOOT ARCHED
BACK POSTURE ADJACENT TO ARCHED BACK FOOT
EYES/HEAD STRAIGHT/FORWARD
SHIN SEPARATION; ADJACENT
FRAME THREE:
2-STEP HITCH/BOUNCE (FORWARD) INTO POCKET
40 DEGREE TURN TO QB’S LEFT-SIDE
FIRST READ: KENDALL HUNTER (NOT OPEN/ATTENTIVE OF ANYTHING; 7 YARDS AHEAD OF SCRIMMAGE LINE)
FRAME FOUR:
TWO STEP DROP;BACK
TWO HITCH STEP; FORWARD-LEFT
SECOND READ: TED GINN (Y-SLOT; IN DOUBLE-COVERAGE UP A STRAIGHT POST-ROUTE)
FRAME FIVE-SIX:
HITCH STEP FORWARD
BODY POSTURING 20 DEGREES LEFT TOWARDS RONALD JOHNSON
THIRD READ: RONALD JOHNSON (SPLIT-END; CURLING A RIGHT-SLANT BACK TO COLIN; OPEN FOR A 10-12 YARD GAIN/FIRST DOWN)
*SACKED BEFORE PASS TO RONALD JOHNSON*
Posture, posture, posture.
I've never once seen Alex Smith (with all the time in the world) go through 3 progressions (yet alone 2) within a 00:02:50 second time gap. -That play was an easy first down from Kaep to Ronald Johnson if Snyder hadn't collapsed like a rag doll.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Most unnoticed aspect of Kaep's time in the game (and something you know only Harbaugh probably saw on the film), was Kaep's pocket-hitching, and quick progression judgement/route-reading advances. -During the 2nd/3rd quarter Colin was pretty sagacious (for all the chaos, he did not look lost one bit in the pocket). Towards the 4th it seemed like his receivers were not meeting their routes on time/miscommunication issues (specially within those 2 interceptions in the 4th; Ronald Johnson was pretty horrible in this game).
Although this play made my eyes widen (it's been shown in many highlight reels), before Colin was sacked on a play in the 3rd quarter (after Snyder rolled over); Kaep displayed some astounding pocket-maneuvering. -You don't see this s**t out of (rookie) system-based shotgun-heavy/pistol QBs within even their first preseason games (didn't see it out of neither Alex Smith, Gabbert, nor Tebow). -Colin was bouncing within the pocket through his progressions like a more nimble/quick-footed Matt Matt Schaub.
FRAMES ONE-TWO:
3 STEP-DROP FROM CENTER
BACK-FOOT DOWN
FRONT-FOOT ARCHED
BACK POSTURE ADJACENT TO ARCHED BACK FOOT
EYES/HEAD STRAIGHT/FORWARD
SHIN SEPARATION; ADJACENT
FRAME THREE:
2-STEP HITCH/BOUNCE (FORWARD) INTO POCKET
40 DEGREE TURN TO QB’S LEFT-SIDE
FIRST READ: KENDALL HUNTER (NOT OPEN/ATTENTIVE OF ANYTHING; 7 YARDS AHEAD OF SCRIMMAGE LINE)
FRAME FOUR:
TWO STEP DROP;BACK
TWO HITCH STEP; FORWARD-LEFT
SECOND READ: TED GINN (Y-SLOT; IN DOUBLE-COVERAGE UP A STRAIGHT POST-ROUTE)
FRAME FIVE-SIX:
HITCH STEP FORWARD
BODY POSTURING 20 DEGREES LEFT TOWARDS RONALD JOHNSON
THIRD READ: RONALD JOHNSON (SPLIT-END; CURLING A RIGHT-SLANT BACK TO COLIN; OPEN FOR A 10-12 YARD GAIN/FIRST DOWN)
*SACKED BEFORE PASS TO RONALD JOHNSON*
Posture, posture, posture.
I've never once seen Alex Smith (with all the time in the world) go through 3 progressions (yet alone 2) within a 00:02:50 second time gap. -That play was an easy first down from Kaep to Ronald Johnson if Snyder hadn't collapsed like a rag doll.
Originally posted by Godsleftsock:
Originally posted by BobS:Championship!
So Alex Smith can win a Super Bowl if the whole team carries him?