Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:
Originally posted by elhebrewhammer:
"WE WANT CARR" proved to me that the majority of the fans at The Stick on that night have NO CLUE what they are talking about.
And I love David Carr. I'm a Fresno State fan and will always like the guy and remember his college days. He's simply not a great NFL player and Alex Smith is DRAMATICALLY better than anyone else on the roster at QB...unfortunately I might add.
I consider myself to be a dedicated, knowledgeable fan. I'm in here at least 10 times a day and read every single article that comes through the wire. I watch all of the videos on 49ers.com and watch the NFL Network at least 1 hour per day, mostly NFL Total Access.
I was at the game looking around at all of the frustrated fans. At my family who had gone to have a good time and enjoy a good game, only to be frustrated and disappointing another f**king time. Another $1000 to go to the ball park down the drain!
I yelled my ass of for Carr. What fans like you don't understand to this day is that it wasn't so much that Carr was the answer, it was the fact that it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that Smith wasn't. If Troy had been dubbed 2nd string QB at the time, although awkward, it would have been "We want Smith!", or more appropriately "We want Troy!".
Point; bad example. Move on from this. Bandwagon or not, it does not take a truly dedicated fan to realize the obvious sometimes. This was as obvious as it gets.
Um....no. Chanting for Carr was one of the dumbest things I've seen in all my years as a 49ers fan.
On that day...on NATIONAL TV no less...I was EMBARRASSED to be a 49er fan. It wasn't because the Niners were bad (and they had been to that point), it was because the crowd at the 'stick was proving just how spoiled and uninformed they were.
As for the original question, my experience is that the average 49ers fan is pretty UNinformed. The average Raider fan is worse (many can't name a player on the team and just like the colors), but AVERAGE Niner fans I'd bet wouldn't rank in the top 20 in te NFL.
Much of this has to do with living in a nice climate where there is alot to do besides going to a football game. More still is people who were spoiled by 20 years of greatness and they have no idea how the other half lives.
You really think voicing your displeasure on these forums is more effective than thousands voicing our opinion in front of the people who can actually do something about it? It was been 8 years of this bulls**t and we were fed up. It sent a pretty damn strong message and they did something about it.
I am more embarrassed to have Alex on the field and be the laughing stock of the NFL because everybody else sees what this organization has failed to see year after year.
Uninformed? The results on the field speak louder than anything else! That's what all fans, bandwagon or not, all see.
Did I say that?
I said it was embarassing. Are you under the impression that calling for David Carr actually made a difference? Yeah, thats why Alex Smith will be a 49er AGAIN this year.
No matter what you think of Alex, he is a FAR better QB than David Carr. To chant for David Carr does NOTHING but make you look stupid. All that the chanting accomplished was making the already bad team into even more of a laughing stock than they already were.
Yes. Uninformed. Most people could show up to games every weekend and still not have the first clue what they are looking at. I've spoken to SeasonTicket holders who are completely freakin' clueless. They couldn't even name all the starters.
You keep thinking this is an Alex vs Carr argument and it never was. The reason people called for Carr was because he was next in line. At that point it was anybody except Alex. What gives you the right to call anybody dumb or stupid for chanting, screaming, or writing it?
I'm done. We clearly have two very different opinions and this is pointless.
I didn't say you or they are stupid or dumb. I said the ACTION was stupid AND dumb.
You say its not about Alex vs. Carr...and I believe you. That's the problem. Its completely uninformed and "dumb" to think that a perenial horrible QB David Carr would be SOO much better than Alex when outside of a BAD fumble, Alex actually hadn't been playing that poorly.
THAT'S my ENTIRE point. The fans in the stands that day were just looking for someone to rail against to make them feel better. They didn't care that there wasn't a better option. They just wanted SOMETHING different without understanding what that meant. THAT is UNINFORMED.
THAT is why NFL coaches don't listen to fans. They're nuts.
See... Why is this so hard for others to understand?
