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Cant Carr just be cut, that dude was horrible in the carolina game last year, which we could have easily won. Troy Smith > david carr no doubt.
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by susweel:
Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues.....................

Even IF Andrew Luck had of come out this year AND the 49ers would have been able to draft him, we would still be developing this year.

We have a NEW HC, a NEW offensive system that ALL of our players have to learn. We also have a NEW DC, instilling a NEW defensive scheme. Players will have to learn this NEW scheme.

We are rebuilding. If you EXPECTED to be in the playoffs this year, you are being extremely optimistic.

It takes time to build a champion, it does not happen the first year in the NFL.

Just like the the Seahawks and Rams were rebuilding last year. We have a shot, as a whole I think we have the most tallented roster.

What were the Seahawks and the Rams record last year?

Did they make it to the Superbowl?

The Rams are still building a championship team. They are by far the closest out of the NFC West. They have their QB and he will only get better. He did a lot with only Amendola as his WR. If any of their drafted WR's pan out, watch out!

Seattle and Arizona will not be any better if they get Kolb, McNabb, Bulger or any other FA QB. They will still be going to a new team, learning a new system, playing with different players.

What does it matter if we win the NFC West? We are not going to be playing deep in the playoffs, and we will not be winning the Superbowl.

Has it ever happened in the history of the NFL? A new head coach instilling a new offense? I'm too lazy to do the research right now, but I am willing to bet not.

Oh, now were talking about winning the superbowl next year. I thought we were talking about this
" If you EXPECTED to be in the playoffs this year, you are being extremely optimistic."

Someone out of this crappy div. has to go.

Yes, and if you EXPECT it to be us, then you expect too much. We are learning a new system in an unusually short off season. We have not been able to have any OTA's, voluntary workouts, or even able to pass out the play books until Friday.

Bottom line is this: Don't EXPECT our first year HC, who is a NEW NFL HC, to turn this team into a playoff team in his first year. Give him some time. Would I be excited and happy if we made the playoffs? Certainly! Do I EXPECT it? Certainly not!

So making statements like; "Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues", as if we should EXPECT anything different is foolish.
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by CRABTREE:
Kaepernick is the real deal...Alex better study hard and find his heart like the tin man or he won't beat Kaepernick.

I agree on CK, but Alex is usually the pre-season MVP and as usual, people will say...

His arm looks stronger, vision is awesome, more athletic, he will pass for 3000 yrs in 2011, 30TDs and 10INT, he will make the probowl, etc, etc..
and at the start of the season he chokes.... let the booooos begin

The difference is that we have a true offensive head coach who has a history of developing QB's. Sure he hasn't done it in the NFL and he could flop just like any other big time college HC, but he is by far better than anything Alex has had since coming to the NFL.

Alex will not be able to fool Harbaugh like he did the other coaches. Harbaugh is going to watch Alex like a bird watcher.

I guess he fooled him already, he said Alice has a license to start.....

I don't recall Harbaugh saying that Alex will be the starter. He did say that he would be given a chance to compete for the starting role.

So; No, he did not already fool Harbaugh.
49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said he'd like to add one undisclosed undrafted QB. Club cannot enter into an agreement until lockout is lifted. Top undrafted QBs: Tolzien (Wisconsin), Devlin (Delaware), Froman (Louisville), Portis (California-PA), Potts (Texas Tech).

then I asked: any chance Froman's Bay Area roots give him edge?

And Maiocco answered: No. Harbaugh has his favorite. It has nothing to do with geography.

http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64518299026857984
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64535077593419776
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64537348838400000

It would be a young core, but I'm hoping Carr gets cut and we have Smith with two rookie qbs that Harbaugh feels good about.
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Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by susweel:
Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues.....................

Even IF Andrew Luck had of come out this year AND the 49ers would have been able to draft him, we would still be developing this year.

We have a NEW HC, a NEW offensive system that ALL of our players have to learn. We also have a NEW DC, instilling a NEW defensive scheme. Players will have to learn this NEW scheme.

We are rebuilding. If you EXPECTED to be in the playoffs this year, you are being extremely optimistic.

It takes time to build a champion, it does not happen the first year in the NFL.

Just like the the Seahawks and Rams were rebuilding last year. We have a shot, as a whole I think we have the most tallented roster.

What were the Seahawks and the Rams record last year?

Did they make it to the Superbowl?

The Rams are still building a championship team. They are by far the closest out of the NFC West. They have their QB and he will only get better. He did a lot with only Amendola as his WR. If any of their drafted WR's pan out, watch out!

Seattle and Arizona will not be any better if they get Kolb, McNabb, Bulger or any other FA QB. They will still be going to a new team, learning a new system, playing with different players.

What does it matter if we win the NFC West? We are not going to be playing deep in the playoffs, and we will not be winning the Superbowl.

Has it ever happened in the history of the NFL? A new head coach instilling a new offense? I'm too lazy to do the research right now, but I am willing to bet not.

Oh, now were talking about winning the superbowl next year. I thought we were talking about this
" If you EXPECTED to be in the playoffs this year, you are being extremely optimistic."

Someone out of this crappy div. has to go.

Yes, and if you EXPECT it to be us, then you expect too much. We are learning a new system in an unusually short off season. We have not been able to have any OTA's, voluntary workouts, or even able to pass out the play books until Friday.

Bottom line is this: Don't EXPECT our first year HC, who is a NEW NFL HC, to turn this team into a playoff team in his first year. Give him some time. Would I be excited and happy if we made the playoffs? Certainly! Do I EXPECT it? Certainly not!

So making statements like; "Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues", as if we should EXPECT anything different is foolish.

For one, to say it we'll be an unusually short off season is presumptuous. The judge could dissolve the stay or lock out this week. She already ruled that the lock-out is illegal.
Second, I'm pretty sure last year was Pete Carrol's first year. Not in the nfl but come on, going into last year we were the favorites to win the div. We're not that far off.

[ Edited by KID9R on May 1, 2011 at 09:43:44 ]
Originally posted by global_nomad:
49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said he'd like to add one undisclosed undrafted QB. Club cannot enter into an agreement until lockout is lifted. Top undrafted QBs: Tolzien (Wisconsin), Devlin (Delaware), Froman (Louisville), Portis (California-PA), Potts (Texas Tech).

then I asked: any chance Froman's Bay Area roots give him edge?

And Maiocco answered: No. Harbaugh has his favorite. It has nothing to do with geography.

http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64518299026857984
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64535077593419776
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64537348838400000

It would be a young core, but I'm hoping Carr gets cut and we have Smith with two rookie qbs that Harbaugh feels good about.

I hope carr gets cut too. Likely, the undrafted rookie QB will be on practice squad. I will bring back Troy Smith also.
Originally posted by RedWaltz24:
MBachCSN Mindi Bach
Some fans may not like it, but Alex Smith's return to 49ers a good move: he has Harbaugh's playbook and can run workouts w/ teammates ....

MBachCSN Mindi Bach
...while lockout continues. Kaepernick can't do that and Carr is expendable if they pick up another veteran QB in free agency

MBachCSN Mindi Bach
Of course, it's still up to Alex Smith if he resign with the team. It's a move of faith on Harbaugh's part

Who cares if Alex already has a playbook? It's been shown time, and time, and time, and time, and time again that he can't learn an offense in a single season. His own college coach basically said he can't run an offense until he learns every little part of it, then he will excel. So he has no advantage over any other QB that might come here. By the time Alex finally masters an offense, Kaeperick might be ready...to retire.
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Originally posted by global_nomad:
49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said he'd like to add one undisclosed undrafted QB. Club cannot enter into an agreement until lockout is lifted. Top undrafted QBs: Tolzien (Wisconsin), Devlin (Delaware), Froman (Louisville), Portis (California-PA), Potts (Texas Tech).

then I asked: any chance Froman's Bay Area roots give him edge?

And Maiocco answered: No. Harbaugh has his favorite. It has nothing to do with geography.

http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64518299026857984
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64535077593419776
http://twitter.com/#!/MaioccoCSN/status/64537348838400000

It would be a young core, but I'm hoping Carr gets cut and we have Smith with two rookie qbs that Harbaugh feels good about.

Josh Portis
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by susweel:
Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues.....................

0-16, ANDREW LUCK HERE WE COME

Well, aren't some of you the same who bought into the 49ers winning the NFC by a large margin last year. What changed?
Originally posted by nvninerfan1:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by susweel:
Looks like the team is basically using 2011 season as developmental year. The playoff drought continues.....................

0-16, ANDREW LUCK HERE WE COME

Well, aren't some of you the same who bought into the 49ers winning the NFC by a large margin last year. What changed?

People only thought that because our division was garbage. It's still garbage but it can't remain that bad forever.

It's going to be an interesting year. We start the season against Seattle but then we don't face a division opponent until Week 11. 4 out of the last 5 games are division games too. If the division plays out like it's had the past few years we're in good shape, but if one team gets hot by the time those division games come up we could be in way too big of a hole.
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Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by DynastyPart2:
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by CRABTREE:
Kaepernick is the real deal...Alex better study hard and find his heart like the tin man or he won't beat Kaepernick.

I agree on CK, but Alex is usually the pre-season MVP and as usual, people will say...

His arm looks stronger, vision is awesome, more athletic, he will pass for 3000 yrs in 2011, 30TDs and 10INT, he will make the probowl, etc, etc..
and at the start of the season he chokes.... let the booooos begin

The difference is that we have a true offensive head coach who has a history of developing QB's. Sure he hasn't done it in the NFL and he could flop just like any other big time college HC, but he is by far better than anything Alex has had since coming to the NFL.

Alex will not be able to fool Harbaugh like he did the other coaches. Harbaugh is going to watch Alex like a bird watcher.

I guess he fooled him already, he said Alice has a license to start.....

I don't recall Harbaugh saying that Alex will be the starter. He did say that he would be given a chance to compete for the starting role.

So; No, he did not already fool Harbaugh.

Just by giving Alex "The Cat" Smith another chance to come back, he's been fooled. We need a fresh start.....
I think we should move on from Alex as much as the next guy but I think it's foolish to think you know more than Harbaugh.

Its just funny...when Harbaugh signed he was god of coaches. Then the minute he supports one player or the other..."dood he haz teh man crush on Alecks..."..."He is teh stoopid rookee coach."
Lot of s**t can change dramatically when FA starts:

Matt Hasselbeck
Josh Johnson
Colin Kaepernick

Armed mercenaries will raid Alex Smith's home, "Brazil" style, and retrieve that playbook.
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by fakers23:
Looks like Alex will win the starting job by default again..

sucks to be niner fans.

maybe for you, I cant wait to see Smith with some REAL coaching. IMO he is gonna have some huge games in 2011.
I doubt that Carr stays on the roster. Wouldn't be surprised to see a guy like Josh Johnson picked up, and apparently coach is already eying a UDFA QB to come in, as well. I doubt that we're still potential landing spots for Hasselbeck or Palmer, although I would welcome their addition to the roster. I'd guess our camp roster looks like this at QB:

Alex Smith, Josh Johnson-type, Colin Kaepernick, UDFA QB

My preference would probably be for the following:

Matt Hasselbeck, Alex Smith, Colin Kaepernick, UDFA QB

Perfect WCO mentor for Kaepernick, Smith available for when Hassebeck gets hurt(it'll happen), Kaepernick there to learn, UDFA on the p-squad

Just my
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