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Only with Alex Smith are the stats on NFL.com not a good enough indicator of his play. We must look at "advanced stats" and consider how poor his entire team is. I'm done.
Stats, rats! The only stat that matters in the NFL is win/loss and in that category my friend he is hot garbage.
So is Vernon Davis...and Patrick Willis...by that same logic, let's trade those losers!!!
Better still...
Our offense was a run first team last year right? So the Running Back is the most important position...
Franky...you gotta go!!!
Lol I guess Chris Johnson, Nnamdi Asamdsfkaa, Steven Jackson, Andre Johnson, MJD, Calvin Johnson, Cameron Wake, Arian Foster etc. are all hot garbage
QB is the most important position on the field.
You ever wonder why Elway gets praised for his 4th quarter comebacks? I mean, there were 10 other players on the field. Would you not say the coach or team should get praise for this stat? They don't. If the team loses and the QB did not play well, guess who gets the blame? The QB. Who was to blame for Pittsburgh losing this past SuperBowl? Pittsburgh.
I know it hurts, but the QB is and will always be the most important person on the field...he will get praised for winning and bashed for losing. Funny how people call QB's "winners"....."oh, he's a winner"....but they don't say the same for RB's, WR's, etc...
It's a team sport, but you have to be dumb as hell if you don't think the QB is far and away the most important player on the team and is more responsible than anyone else for the success of the team. QB is the heart of a team.
Find me a team that has won consistently with a poor QB. Yea, the Ravens won with Dilfer for one year, then struggled to find a starting QB for almost 10 years.
Alex is not the guy.
Well said man. These people act like QB isn't the most important position in ALL of sports. They probably have the same mentality as Sing.
I guess all you need to do is plug in any scrub at QB and put talent around him and you will go to the SuperBowl. I mean, all you need is good coaching, good OL play, and good recievers, right? I mean, it worked for the Cardinals right after Warner left and they put in Anderson, right? It worked for the Vikings this past year, right? The only reason favre had a drop-off in play was b/c of the people around him, not b/c he was too old or b/c he lost it. QB doesn't matter. Waste of a position. We should start using our punters and kickers as QBs so we could actually use that roster spot for a player who actually contributes.
Yea... Arizona and Minny are perfect examples of what poor QB'ing will do to your team.
I remember the Favre apologists last year. "His best receiver is Bernard Berrian". "The receivers are the reason why he stinks". Sound familiar? Well Percy Harvin came back, even got Randy Moss....and Favre was still throwing picks. Funny how crappy Randy looked the minute he had a poor QB or was phased out of the offense (NE). But people here still think the receiver makes the QB and not vice versa.
Yeah. I wonder whether anyone actually has stopped and pondered this: Maybe it's not our receivers making the QB look bad, but the other way around.
WOW! That actually makes a lot of sense and is a possible situation here in Ninerland.
You don't think it's funny that only Alex gets the "crappy receivers" excuse but JT O'Sullivan, Troy Smith and Shaun Hill...don't?
id hate to interrupt you r man love fest here
no one bashed hilll or sulliven and the excuse for crappy wr was 2005 and 2006 year when his best wr was antonio bryant and most consistant was arnaz battle
i agree this 2009 and 2010 season we have had decent to good wr target certainly not bad enough to warrant an "excuse"
also the thing isnt bad wr i the drops they make and i dont think ALL the blame can go on qb vernon davis and morgan seem to be doing fine crabtree has a problem of tipping wr to the opponent however part of the blame will fall on alex because he throws it a little fast (when i typed tht that sounds like a wr excuse)
amd good o line and good coaching go hand in hand with a great qb for every great qb you can name an all sar or a great coach and sing and nolan are hardly what you call a great coach and it had nothing to do with alex
nolan didnt have a clue about anything but defense he didnt know how to control the team how to command respect look at vernon davis the team was just out of control
sing was the opposite he had the respect of the team and knew how to discipline but knew nothing about x's and o's he was outcoached in almost all of the games
alex has his share of blame most of it probally is but you cant expect a young qb to succeed with a coach who doesnt know to teach and doesnt have an offensive gameplan
Why are you calling Antonio Bryant an awful receiver? He had 1000yards receiving in frigging Clevleand with Charlie Frye as his QB the year before and got 1400 yards the year after.
Brandon Lloyd wasn't an awful receiver either. Arnaz Battle was not a #1, I'll give you that...and there were some other bums. But lets not act like JT and Shaun had all world receivers.
Your whole great QB, great coach talk is bullcrap....
I was going to go into detail an list examples of how flawed your argument is but it's simply a waste of time since I've learned a long time ago, arguign with Alex stans is a waste of time.
LOL @ talking about Nolan and Sing...as if they were the reason why Alex was missing swing passes and slants.
i didnt call him awful but he is no #1 wr he is a number 2 at best i think he had some 800 yards with us or something
and qb - coach thing is not bull crap
the best example is matt cassel
im sure u would call belichick a good coach
he had 21 td and 11 int as a patriot
his first year in kc he had a pretty mediocore coach in herm edwards he had 16 td to 16 int
then had a great offensive minded coach in haley and had 27 td to 7 int
So a receiver that puts up 1400 yards in their career multiple times isn't a #1?
Now I've heard it all.
antonio bryant dude look up his stats
Yeah, I did. He had a 1000 yard season with TRENT DILFER. And another 1,200 season with the Bucs after he left us.
ok so 1000 and 1248 yards is 1400 yards in a 8 year career and u said he had 1400 yards multiple times? where did u go to school
his average yards per season is 707.42 yards
and just for a "fun fact" he had 733 yards with us
Ok, I read the other guy's post and read 1,400? Don't crucify me for it.
IDGAF about his career average. Stop trying to avoid the fact that he had 2 1,000 yard seasons with 2 different teams, one of them with TRENT DILFER.
What don't you understand about that? Bryant was a legitimate #1 receiver who was very talented but his off the field troubles and character concerns were what brought his career down. The guy had the talent and game needed to be a top 10 receiver in the league, hands down. Now, if you wish to deny that b/c it goes against your argument of Alex having weak receivers, thats fine. Still, I suggest you take off the biased glasses and look at the situation without tunnel vision.
, Lombardi...Alex would miraculously know how to play football? If you think Johnson coached up Troy, you're an idiot. It was Norv...and in order to be coached up you have to have some ABILITY.
