Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
My bad, double post.
Well, I do not see him fold under pressure. He has taken some big time hits this year and courage is not a factor as far as I am concerned. As far as rolling out and throwing the ball away, it is my opinion that this is coaching. He is being told--look for A or throw the ball away if option is not there. At Utah he rolled right and threw incredibly accurate passes down the field...even as he was being hit.
Nolan's idea of offense was, "Don't screw up." What a depressing coaching move. Typical defense guy talking about QBing. Singletary came in and said don't worry we are going to run the ball down their throats. When that did not happen, Smith was left to try and figure out plan B. When they went to the spread his play improved. When Johnson took over and started telling Smith to think pass first, he improved. That's the way I saw it.
Once again, you are assuming here. You have absolutely no proof of this.
Assuming? I have watched him hold the ball until a 320 pound DLman lands on top of him. He didn't duck, dive, run...he stood there and tried to find a receiver. That is not an assumption, it is something we all saw. Nolan was quoted as saying that he told the offense that the D was so good that the offense just needed not to screw up. Again, not an assumption. Singletary told the world that the 9ers were not trying to fool anyone but were going to play smash mouth football. One of our members actually kept track and just about every first down play was a run up the middle...not for just one game, but every game. Again, not an assumption.
After Johnson took over for Raye the O opened up and Smith looked very free wheeling. Once again, not assumption. By the last game of the year Smith was in sync and his QB rating was what? 117 or so? So how do I see what I see? With my eyes.
You're assuming on the point about the coaches telling him to play cautious. Thats his nature. If you're a real QB and not a robot, you will fire the ball to the open receiver when you see one. When you're on the field, that's all you think about, or should be thinking about.
And anyway, when did he have the 117 rating, again? Oh yeah, against the Cardinals. Remind me of a time he put up big numbers against a good team...
Once again, in Utah he was a free wheeling QB. Did you watch any of his games? He ran quite a bit and threw out of sprints and roll outs. He was always on the move. So, Nolan, in his infinate wisdom, decided that he should stand behind the center like a statue and throw on third and long. Brilliant! Now, can he regain the movement he had in college? Don't know. But it will be fun to see if Harbaugh talks him into staying.
Edit: NO...second game of the season? Rating wasn't as good but I thought he played well. And then Seattle with a rating of 130. I know, not a good team but they did win a playoff game so...
Edit Two: Correction--his rating rating against Az was 107 not 117.
NO has a s**t defense. THey allowed 41 points to SEA in the playoffs and sucked all season long. So basically, his top 3 games were against teams with s**t defenses, which is a fact.
All three teams you listed had much better coaching than the 9ers and yet Smith was able to have good games against that superior game planning. NO held Pitt to ten points so Smith must be a much better QB than Big Ben? Stats are wonderful things!
They have s**tty defenses. Period. DOesn't matter who their coaches are b/c we all know the Hawks and the Cards have some of the worst defenses in the league. Please don't even try to deny that.
Link?
Just checked NFL.com for you. NO listed as #4 defense.
Well, I stand corrected. But what did he have that game, a rating of 82 and 2 costly picks? (I know, I know, they weren't his fault).
But what about the other two teams, seattle and az? You obviously forgot about that, right?
I left them out to give you a come back!
Glad you stand corrected though, as Smith threw a late hail Mary, if I remember correctly that was intercepted and Crabtree played volleyball with another. Please don't say that tipped balls are the QB's fault, because Crabtree tipped balls that were in his bread basket...not too high to catch. And as Jerry Rice said once, "If I can get a finger on it, it's mine!"
Just for fun, let's look at how some other really bad QBs did against NO.
Big Ben 66.8
Ryan 77.9
Favre 71.7
A young guy, old guy and in his prime guy all had worse games than Smith against NO. But, I know, stats don't mean anything and you know what you know.