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Who were our offensive coordinators during the 1980s?

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Was not a huge fan during '95-96. Care to elaborate on Trestman? That sounds funny.
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From all the posts this is what i have come up with:

Sam Wyche: 1979-82

Paul Hackett: 1983 to 1985

Mike Holmgren 1986- 1991
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Was not a huge fan during '95-96. Care to elaborate on Trestman? That sounds funny.

Trestman was relatively inconsistent, and because of his personality drew a lot of complaints from the fans and some players. The loss in the playoff game against the Packers made de Bartolo so mad that he made an incendiary statement and Trestman was promptly fired afterwards.

Considering the fiasco that followed, Trestman was actually not bad at all. Mariucci & Mornhinweg's play-calling wasn't any better.

[ Edited by fastforward on Jan 8, 2011 at 16:16:15 ]
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Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Was not a huge fan during '95-96. Care to elaborate on Trestman? That sounds funny.

Trestman was relatively inconsistent, and because of his personality drew a lot of complaints from the fans and some players. The loss in the playoff game against the Packers made de Bartolo so mad that he made an incendiary statement and Trestman was promptly fired afterwards.

Considering the fiasco that followed, Trestman was actually not bad at all. Mariucci & Mornhinweg's play-calling wasn't any better.

He had a top 10 offense both years here. His downfall was the running game with Loville and Kirby. It killed that team because they could not run the ball at all.

1995: Scored 457 points (28.6/g), 1st of 30 in the NFL.

1996: Scored 398 points (24.9/g), 3rd of 30 in the NFL.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Was not a huge fan during '95-96. Care to elaborate on Trestman? That sounds funny.

Trestman was relatively inconsistent, and because of his personality drew a lot of complaints from the fans and some players. The loss in the playoff game against the Packers made de Bartolo so mad that he made an incendiary statement and Trestman was promptly fired afterwards.

Considering the fiasco that followed, Trestman was actually not bad at all. Mariucci & Mornhinweg's play-calling wasn't any better.

He had a top 10 offense both years here. His downfall was the running game with Loville and Kirby. It killed that team because they could not run the ball at all.

1995: Scored 457 points (28.6/g), 1st of 30 in the NFL.

1996: Scored 398 points (24.9/g), 3rd of 30 in the NFL.

Yea, looking back Trestman wasn't a bad OC at all considering he had no RBs and an aging OL. He still got a lot of production out of the passing game.

I'd take that guy over Knapp, Raye, and Hostler any day.
Originally posted by Jcool:

He had a top 10 offense both years here. His downfall was the running game with Loville and Kirby. It killed that team because they could not run the ball at all.

1995: Scored 457 points (28.6/g), 1st of 30 in the NFL.

1996: Scored 398 points (24.9/g), 3rd of 30 in the NFL.

That's the kind of STANDARD our team no longer follows. During our dynasty, we seemed to be #1 or #2 offense every single year. So crazy that a coordinator who has a top 5 offense in back-to-back seasons will get fired unceremoniously.

Nowadays, we're just happy to finish in the top half of the league in offense... I hope Harbaugh re-ignites the offense.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by fastforward:
Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Was not a huge fan during '95-96. Care to elaborate on Trestman? That sounds funny.

Trestman was relatively inconsistent, and because of his personality drew a lot of complaints from the fans and some players. The loss in the playoff game against the Packers made de Bartolo so mad that he made an incendiary statement and Trestman was promptly fired afterwards.

Considering the fiasco that followed, Trestman was actually not bad at all. Mariucci & Mornhinweg's play-calling wasn't any better.

He had a top 10 offense both years here. His downfall was the running game with Loville and Kirby. It killed that team because they could not run the ball at all.

1995: Scored 457 points (28.6/g), 1st of 30 in the NFL.

1996: Scored 398 points (24.9/g), 3rd of 30 in the NFL.

You're right. I forgot about those RBs. I think De Bartolo overreacted that year. Not only Trestman was fired, but Seifert was also pushed out (the 49ers FO didn't actually do that but after being told that he was head coach only for one more year before being replaced by Mariucci, Seifert had little choice but resigning.) That was the end of the great 49ers defense that lasted almost a decade. Mariucci was competent offensive-wise, but his defensive teams were never as good as the teams under Seifert.
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Originally posted by Wubbie:
Originally posted by Jcool:

He had a top 10 offense both years here. His downfall was the running game with Loville and Kirby. It killed that team because they could not run the ball at all.

1995: Scored 457 points (28.6/g), 1st of 30 in the NFL.

1996: Scored 398 points (24.9/g), 3rd of 30 in the NFL.

That's the kind of STANDARD our team no longer follows. During our dynasty, we seemed to be #1 or #2 offense every single year. So crazy that a coordinator who has a top 5 offense in back-to-back seasons will get fired unceremoniously.

Nowadays, we're just happy to finish in the top half of the league in offense... I hope Harbaugh re-ignites the offense.

Testman after SF:

Cardinals:

1998: Scored 325 points (20.3/g), 15th of 30 in the NFL.

1999: Scored 245 points (15.3/g), 30th of 31 in the NFL.

2000: Scored 210 points (13.1/g), 29th of 31 in the NFL

Not sure you can take anything out of that the Cardinals had some of the worst teams and players in the league then.

Raiders:

2002: Scored 450 points (28.1/g), 2nd of 32 in the NFL.

2003: Scored 270 points (16.9/g), 26th of 32 in the NFL.

2003 was just a bad year for Oakland... Gannon only started 7 games and you had Rick Mirer as QB and Tyrone Wheatley as RB.

Montreal Alouette:

2008: 12-4 Record Lost Grey Cup

2009: 15-3 Record Won Grey Cup

2010: 12-6 Record Won Grey Cup
Although the Niners had OC's come and go, the constant was Walsh and his system. That was the beauty of the dynasty, the consistency. That's why getting Harbaugh is so huge, because now no matter who our OC is, the offense will remain the same. The key will be getting a long term QB so he and Harbaugh can establish something consistent over time. An offensive minded head coach allows for a revolving door of OC's without affecting the offense much.
Who needs an OC when the HC and QB draw plays in the grass durring a time out?

Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Sam Wyche was in 1981, then Paul Hackett and Sherm Lewis in 84.

Wrong, Bill Walsh had NO Offensive Coordinator, HE did the job! Denny Green has said he was but he wasn't! Bill invented the sustem and he called the plays and made out the game plan! Read his book, Building a Champion, it's all there!
From what I have seen on videos and read, walsh would let the offensive coodinators write up the game plan and walsh would tweak it. During the game, the OC would be up in the stands calling plays, but if walsh that there was something better he would change it.

Even his infamous scripted plays, people thought he never deviated from it, for the most part he wouldn't, but once in a while he did.

The same for the draft. There was someone that the scouts had pegged, but walsh then intervened and said there has to be somebody else he looked at who was left and liked Don Griffins speed, so they chose Griffin instead...the rest was histiory
It's one of the reasons that York hired Nolan. He wanted a defensive minded coach. Under Mooch, the defense had really gone down. Erickson was a mess. I seem to remember the FO taking a more defensive approach when they were searching for Erickson's replacement. Now, they're going back the other way (rightfully so).
Let's set the record straight or history for that matter. It was the Senior Dork that hired nolan and not Jed. You can't lump the two together. With that said young Jed IS responsible for giving Sing his chance. Sing blew it because his off philosophy was caveman like and he was stubborn about it.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
1979-82 Sam Wyche
1983-1988 Walsh/Assistants/Paul Hackett/Sherm Lewis/Homlgren (Before Holmgren took the OC title when Seifter took over in '89, Walsh called most of his own plays, and relied upon assistants who eventually became OCs).

1989-1991 Mike Holmgren
1992-1994 Mike Shanahan
1995-1996 Marc Trestman (Was fired in public by Eddie D during a conference, lol.)
1997-2000 Marty Mornhinweg

Sorry, I am amazed that someone actually either remembers or found a way to find this out.

For all of you "new found" fans you should check out the outcome of the '84 Superbowl.

If I have to say more, you may need your diaper changed.