All this talk about HC...who will be our QB??

Cam Newton............

The next big Ben................

[ Edited by D-NOTTE on Jan 7, 2011 at 10:44:45 ]

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Cam Newton............

The next big Ben................

Yea but I heard we gotta pay his dad something like $180,000 just to interview him.

Originally posted by midrdan:

Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I am surprised there is not much mention, if any, for Vince Young, who in 2005 owned the Rose bowl. With a new coach, a new start, he could be terrific.

The other point is , our QB is not a problem is harbaugh is signed, because of all the things he does well, coaching up Qbs is his forte. I don't think it matters who is qb if we sign harbaugh, because he can make anybody look great. Vince young remains intriguing to me and it is hard to believe they just dropped him. Wow. I would take a flyer on vince in a heartbeat.

I think it's because people are just scared of the drama that comes with him. If he wouldn't have those issues, he would be a perfect fit for us, but at the same time I don't think Titans would've let him go.

I still think it would be worth taking him, despite all of his issues. I mean, Vick had ISSUES and I was in favor of the 9ers taking a shot with him as well. He's turning out all right.

My list of choices for QB:

1. Vince Young + Draft QB

2. Josh Johnson + sign either of the Smiths (or Boller) to back him up

3. Kyle Orton + Draft QB (this would cost the 9ers a 3rd round pick most likely)

4. McNabb + Draft QB

5. Kolb (this would cost the 9ers a 1st round pick most likely)

I'm not sold on Kolb. I really think Vince Young is a winner. And if we sign Harbaugh then Josh Johnson probably has the most upside of any QB out there. He's young though so trading for him would be the equivalent of drafting a QB. Which is why we'd need an experienced back up. Paging Shaun Hill?

On Vince Young: He is not a viable option.

Jeff Fisher is a veteran coach with a rep for being a "players coach" and at the same time fair and disciplined. If Young can't get along with Fisher it should send a message of warning.

Also, Titan TE Bo Scaife who also played with Young at Texas was quoted on Wednesday as saying that the emotional issues that Young has were in evidence at Texas as well. His statement was that "some things just can't be corrected. Time to move on."

So it appears that Young's issues are not new and not conducive to an organization and team that has had more than its share of high drama.

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:

Originally posted by D-NOTTE:
Cam Newton............

The next big Ben................

Yea but I heard we gotta pay his dad something like $180,000 just to interview him.

Excellent groaner! You deservethis.

Originally posted by Jakemall:

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:
We don't need a great QB. We need a capable QB. Great QB's are made with solid coaching, solid play calling, a strong offensive line, an above average RB and a solid set of receivers to catch the ball. I believe we almost have all of those. Our offensive line (barring any injuries) will be very strong next year. We have one of the best TEs in the league. Crabtree and Morgan have potential to be a very good 1-2. And although Frank is getting older, he still has it. We need the coaching, play calling, and a capable QB.

Side note regarding our offensive line:

Although we didn't have very many huge offensive plays, it seemed like we had even less holding penalties. I could be waaay off on this, but with a young and inexperienced (Davis and Iupati) offensive line, i was expecting a lot of holding penalties this year. any thoughts?

We are all agreed we need someone "good" to start and play until a rookie is ready to play. I think we are all also in agreement we don't want to make the same mistake with a new rookie that we made with Alex Smith by starting him before he is ready to play.

So, from the list I posted earlier, who would you choose and what would you give up to get them?

Also note, any draft pick you give up is another need that will not be filled.

I know i am going to be given hell for this, but i would not mind seeing Alex back. And yes, i can make all of the Alexcuses in the book. He never had consistent coaching, he never had an offensive HC, he was thrown under the bus by nowin and dingleberry, blah blah blah. If he goes to another team so be it. But if no one else wants him (which i guess is a red flag right there), we should sign him to a one year deal. And if Harbaugh is our coach, maybe he can QB Guru his a$$ into shape. The pickens seem mighty slim out there for a QB right now.

The bolded is the big issue, but I would like to stay away from another Alex discussion in this thread.

So do you have a preference from the other available remedies?

You are absolutely right. Alex need not apply in this thread. My bad. If harbaugh is our coah, I would like so see the niners make a play for josh johnson, bucs backup. He is familiar with harbaughs system, harbaugh really liked him, and I don't think we would have to give up a lot. Maybe a 4th rounder. Freeman looks like the franchise over there. If harbaugh is not our coach, then I have no clue.

I don't understand how you want to have a sincere discussion about next year's qb without at least entertaining the idea of Alex for one more season. It's very realistic. I'm not saying it's a good or bad idea in this post...but it is a reasonable one. Sure there's enough other threads on Alex, but let's face it, he's one of the best available and he's familiar with the other players on offense.

I do not disagree that the discussion may wind up with Alex as an option, perhaps even the best option, however, if we are even going to consider that option, a thorough exploration and discussion of all other options should precede it. Just my opinion...

Hey everyone,

I've been a Niners fan since I was 5, and being a Mizzou Alum, I am also a huge Tigers fan.

So I have to ask:

How would you feel about the Niners picking up Blaine Gabbert in the draft?

Kyle orton easily.

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Kyle orton easily.

Are you willing to give up a 2nd this year for him?

Originally posted by Napman85:
Hey everyone,

I've been a Niners fan since I was 5, and being a Mizzou Alum, I am also a huge Tigers fan.

So I have to ask:

How would you feel about the Niners picking up Blaine Gabbert in the draft?

If he is available in the 2nd round.

I have this weird issue with any 9er QB and I was wondering if anyone else thought like me. We have had great QB's here in san fran. But they have also had great QB names. Joe Montana. Steve Young. I don't know where I'm going with this but I want our next QB to have a great QB name. Sorry...weird tangent.

Talks are at this point that Blaine Gabbert will be the #1 QB to go in the draft, so I wouldn't expect him to go 2nd round, but you never know. I think current talks are top 5 pick overall.

Which after watching him play at MU, I can say he definitely has the physical tools and is a smart coach-able guy, but I don't know if he would be ready to start... JMO.

ALEX SMITH!!

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:
I have this weird issue with any 9er QB and I was wondering if anyone else thought like me. We have had great QB's here in san fran. But they have also had great QB names. Joe Montana. Steve Young. I don't know where I'm going with this but I want our next QB to have a great QB name. Sorry...weird tangent.

Jeff Garcia was a pretty slick name, too.

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by AyYoJoey:
I have this weird issue with any 9er QB and I was wondering if anyone else thought like me. We have had great QB's here in san fran. But they have also had great QB names. Joe Montana. Steve Young. I don't know where I'm going with this but I want our next QB to have a great QB name. Sorry...weird tangent.

Jeff Garcia was a pretty slick name, too.

Jeff Garcia is a good name. A little too generic for me though. When i here the name Jeff Garcia, i think of of the QB and the short mexican comedian. And when i hear Joe Montana and Steve Young, i think of greatness.

[ Edited by AyYoJoey on Jan 7, 2011 at 11:25:27 ]

Originally posted by NinerPain2010:
What do you guys think about trading for Brady Quinn?

I have always thought that he would be a late bloomer... in the right system / coach I think this guys could be a gamer.

Only if we hire McDaniels, lol. And if we do hire McD I'm probably going to find a new team to support.