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Originally posted by NatralBrnThrila:
This makes the most sense right now.

Like most others, I worry about Billick and his QB's, but unlike his f**king idiot predecessor, when a guy like him says he's learned from his past mistakes, I believe him. As far as guys capable of formulating and implementing an offensive attack go, there are few better in my mind. If we were to hire Billick my overall feeling would be "make it happen Cap'n"

Lewis has put together some sh*tty defenses in Cinci, but he's also put together some really good ones, so he has to be considered an upgrade. All Manusky's really ever done here thus far is play a soggy zone that gives up a ton of passing yards, and can't close out a 3rd down to get off the damn field half the time. Say what you will about Marvin, but at least he's not scared to let his corners play bump and run; that in itself is an immediate upgrade to our personnel. I'd like to see what he could do with this defense.

Add the simple fact that Billick has a television job to fall back on, which I'm sure the 9ers wouldn't mind him picking back up if the lockout goes down. This makes him the most qualified guy, with the least to lose in the event of a lockout; makes sense to me.

Again, soooooo much is riding on him getting it right with the QB this time. We absolutely, positively can't afford to whiff again. The offensive line and receivers better get their sh*t together if Billick comes here. I'm pretty sure he'll be drafting high to get his guy to groom, maybe behind a vet (although I don't know what caliber of vet we'd come away with in the off-season). All I do know is: I can't endure another Alexperience.

Lol you want Clement and Spencer to plan man? Lololol manusky plays zone because our db's can't play man, yet that DC's fault?
Originally posted by escobar49:
Browns are already waiting for the season to end to go after Gruden and I hope all niner fans would want Gruden over Billick. Last year the redskins wanted him. He's also turned down two college coaching offers from Miami and Tennessee. Cowher can get any job he chooses. Teams interested in him are the giants, dolphins, and the texans. Teams that may be interested in Billick. Our sorry 49ers

great points. I would LOVE the niners to follow the same thought pattern as two of the league's PREMIER organizations in cleveland and washington. They make no mistakes and get the job done. Truly at the front of the pack. Jeez. If you're going to play follow the leader and do what everyone else is doing, at least pick the ppl winning and not 2 of the worst franchises.
Originally posted by escobar49:
Brian Billick had the ravens at 5-11 in 2007 the year he was fired.

The following year he was replaced by a young "inexperienced" special teams coach named John Harbaugh.

The ravens went 11-5 in 2008.

They also added Flacco and Rice that year and in 2007 Kyle Boller was their leading passer since Steve McNair had an injury plagued season. In 06 with a healthy McNair they went 13-3 with McNair passing for 3,000 yards.

Billick isn't a sexy pick as Head Coach and has some question marks but given the realistic selection we have to choose from I don't think he's a bad pick if brings Lewis with him and if we lose out on Harbaugh.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by 49Fever:
I think he's one of the guys with the best inside info on the niners.
Here's his latest article. The idea of a Billick-Lewis combo sounds nice to my ears. The fact Billick worked with Walsh, Dennis Green and led the ravens to a SB title (with Trent Dilfer at QB for God's sake) is nice on his resume. He also was OC for that great Vikings offense in the nineties.
Lewis is one of the best D coach available if let go by the bungles

billick could never develop a qb with the ravens and that would concern me about his being niners next coach

Just a little FYI for you and the parrots that keep bringing this up. NFL head coaches DO NOT DEVELOP QUARTERBACKS. That isn't their job and isn't what they do all day long. Basing a head coaching hire on the ability or inability to develop a QB is stupid, plain and simple.

P.S. I never knew he wrote a book with Bill Walsh until today.
It is a classic. I received it as a Christmas present in 1998 when it was published. It has a foreword from Mike Holmgren when he was HC for the Packers. It is a comprehensive work that covers everything from working with the media and financial planning to organization structures, even give sample lectures to assistants and team. I highly recommend it. It is even a worthwhile read for anyone running any kind of business. It was originally published by Sports Publishing of Illinois. Don't know if it has been re-published or not.

One of the classic stories from Holmgren was about Walsh's insistence on perfection. Montana would throw a pass that was slightly behind Rice, and though Rice would catch the pass 99 times out of 100, Walsh would make them go back and run it again until Rice ran the precise path he should run and Montana hit him perfectly in stride. Walsh left no part of the play untouched. It was just as much on Rice to run the exact path at the exact time as it was for Montana to throw the ball to the precise spot.

Oh, for those days again...
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Originally posted by escobar49:
F*ck billick! Nolan and Singletary are billick clones!! Why the hell would we do this??? This guy is suppose to be an offensive coach but the ravens never had an offense with him there! Theres a reason why hes been working for the nfl network!!! If the niners hire this guy im putting all my niner stuff in a box and up in the attic until they hire a new coach.


The fans who want Billick are enamored that he wrote a book with Walsh. Big f**king deal. The only time he had a good offense was when he had probowlers and HoFers. If we hire him, I can't wait for the same fans to be calling for his head by year 2.

How many coaches do you know of that had a good offense where they DIDN'T have pro bowlers and Hall of famers? Bad argument there.

Billick is an ok second choice. I'd prefer other coaches, but I'd also like some kind of experience in this organization. The Ravens never looked great on offense, but they never aggressively pursued any big time offensive players. We have more talent on this team than the Ravens had on the offensive side of the ball and if we get a QB here, we would be able able to make some things happen next season. That is the biggest key. No coach can suceed in the NFL without a decent QB.
Originally posted by escobar49:
The difference is Cowher and Gruden have HC offers every year. I don't think Billick has even gotten 1 offer since he was fired.

In a recent interview Billick noted he had been contacted about HC deals but none were all that interesting, IIRC.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by NorCaL9er:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by daWest:
Originally posted by Joecool:
LOL. He will retain Alex and try to hit lightning in a bottle twice with crap QBs.

Word.

you guys make it like alex will want to come back to the 9ers next year..

he'll go away and in 2 years he'll be the quarterback of a playoff team

It's still his best chance to start.

These people sound so sure that he'll go somewhere else and be successful..They seem so sure. LOL

Depends of where he goes. If he goes somewhere with a competent offensive coaching staff and an actual NFL offensive line I guaranty he will!

do you guaranty it?

Lol. I wouldn't be so sure to GUARANTEE anything about Alex Smith. Just look at the Jets and Mark Sanchez. He has great talent around him, but he can't seem to get it done. Goes to show you that even if you have a great staff and supporting cast, the QB DOES MATTER.
You guys do know its spelt guaranty also right?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guaranty
He returned to coaching with San Diego State University, serving as the tight ends coach and recruiting coordinator for five seasons (1981–1985). After being named the offensive coordinator of Utah State University, Billick improved the second-worst offense in Division I-A into a top-ten offense in only three seasons (1986–1988).

Billick was then hired as the assistant head coach and tight ends coach at Stanford by Dennis Green, serving both roles for three seasons (1989–91).

National Football League
Assistant Coach

The Vikings made the playoffs during six of the seven seasons (1992–1998) that Billick spent with the team, and set several offensive records in the process. In 1998, Minnesota set a then-NFL record for most points scored in a season (556) (which has since been broken by the 2007 Patriots), and set a team record with 41 touchdown passes. His work under Minnesota head coach Dennis Green put Billick in the Sid Gillman coaching tree.

Head Coach
Baltimore Ravens

Billick became the second coach in Ravens history on January 19, 1999, when he was hired to replace Ted Marchibroda. He had a 85–67 record in nine seasons (1999–2007) with the team, including 5–3 in the playoffs.

Although Billick had the opportunity to interview for the head coaching job of the reactivated Cleveland Browns and was rumored to be their top candidate, he chose to interview with the Ravens first.[6] He signed with Baltimore in under 24 hours after his initial interview.

In his first season with the Ravens, Billick led the team to its first non-losing record (8–8) in the franchise's brief four-year history.

The next season, Baltimore finished with a 12–4 record and earned its first playoff berth. Prior to reaching the playoffs, Billick forbade his players from using either the term "playoffs" or the term "Super Bowl," with the idea of keeping them focused on winning each game instead of on their more distant prize. Billick felt this approach would help them reach that prize, and went so far as to fine Tony Siragusa for violating this rule. In response, the players borrowed the term "Festivus" from the television series Seinfeld for the playoffs, and the term Festivus Maximus for the Super Bowl. When they reached the playoffs, Billick lifted this ban. The Ravens took advantage of their vaunted defense, which allowed an NFL record-low 165 points in the regular season (for a point differential of 168; the Ravens also led the league in turnover differential at plus-23), during the playoffs to advance to and win Super Bowl XXXV.

Billick led the Ravens to a 10–6 record and a victory over the Miami Dolphins in a 2001 wild card playoff game before losing to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the Divisional Round. Baltimore finished 7–9 and missed the playoffs in 2002, but bounced back in 2003 with a 10-6 record and the franchise's first division title; the key game of this season was a wild 44–41 overtime win over the Seattle Seahawks in which the Ravens scored 20 unanswered points from the 10:14 mark of the fourth quarter through overtime; the win launched the then 5–5 Ravens into the division title. The Ravens lost to the Titans, 20–17, in the Wild Card Round of the playoffs.

The Ravens missed the playoffs in 2004 (9–7) and 2005 (6–10) before bouncing back in the 2006 season. Billick fired offensive coordinator Jim Fassel on October 17, 2006, assuming the role for the remainder of the season, as the Ravens earned a franchise best 13–3 record, won the AFC North and earned the first playoff bye in team history. Baltimore, however, lost to eventual Super Bowl champions, the Indianapolis Colts, 15–6, in the divisional round.

Billicks Head coaching Numbers

Team Year Regular Season Post Season
Won Lost Ties Win % Finish Won Lost Win % Result
BAL 1999 8 8 0 .500 3rd in AFC Central - - - -
BAL 2000 12 4 0 .750 2nd in AFC Central 4 0 1.000 Super Bowl XXXV Champions
BAL 2001 10 6 0 .625 2nd in AFC Central 1 1 .500 Lost to Pittsburgh Steelers in Divisional Round
BAL 2002 7 9 0 .438 3rd in AFC North - - - -
BAL 2003 10 6 0 .625 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Tennessee Titans in Wild-Card Round
BAL 2004 9 7 0 .563 2nd in AFC North - - - -
BAL 2005 6 10 0 .375 3rd in AFC North - - - -
BAL 2006 13 3 0 .813 1st in AFC North 0 1 .000 Lost to Indianapolis Colts in Divisional Round
BAL 2007 5 11 0 .313 4th in AFC North - - - -
BAL Total 80 64 0 .556 5 3 .625
Total[14] 80 64 0 .556 5 3 .625
[edit] Coaching tree

NFL head coaches under whom Brian Billick has served:

* Dennis Green, Minnesota Vikings (1992-1998)

Assistant coaches under Brian Billick that became NFL head coaches:

* Jack Del Rio, Jacksonville Jaguars (2003–present)
* Marvin Lewis, Cincinnati Bengals (2003–present)
* Mike Nolan, San Francisco 49ers (2005–2008)
* Rex Ryan, New York Jets (2009–present)
* Mike Singletary, San Francisco 49ers (2008–2010)
* Mike Smith, Atlanta Falcons (2008–present)

[ Edited by leakyfausett on Jan 1, 2011 at 15:34:48 ]
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^^^^ Because i knew nothing about Billick before you posed that
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by NorCaL9er:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by daWest:
Originally posted by Joecool:
LOL. He will retain Alex and try to hit lightning in a bottle twice with crap QBs.

Word.

you guys make it like alex will want to come back to the 9ers next year..

he'll go away and in 2 years he'll be the quarterback of a playoff team

It's still his best chance to start.

These people sound so sure that he'll go somewhere else and be successful..They seem so sure. LOL

Depends of where he goes. If he goes somewhere with a competent offensive coaching staff and an actual NFL offensive line I guaranty he will!

do you guaranty it?

Lol. I wouldn't be so sure to GUARANTEE anything about Alex Smith. Just look at the Jets and Mark Sanchez. He has great talent around him, but he can't seem to get it done. Goes to show you that even if you have a great staff and supporting cast, the QB DOES MATTER.
You guys do know its spelt guaranty also right?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guaranty

Spelt? Oh really.

[ Edited by leakyfausett on Jan 1, 2011 at 15:46:37 ]
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by blunt_probe:
Originally posted by escobar49:
F*ck billick! Nolan and Singletary are billick clones!! Why the hell would we do this??? This guy is suppose to be an offensive coach but the ravens never had an offense with him there! Theres a reason why hes been working for the nfl network!!! If the niners hire this guy im putting all my niner stuff in a box and up in the attic until they hire a new coach.


The fans who want Billick are enamored that he wrote a book with Walsh. Big f**king deal. The only time he had a good offense was when he had probowlers and HoFers. If we hire him, I can't wait for the same fans to be calling for his head by year 2.

How many coaches do you know of that had a good offense where they DIDN'T have pro bowlers and Hall of famers? Bad argument there.

Billick is an ok second choice. I'd prefer other coaches, but I'd also like some kind of experience in this organization. The Ravens never looked great on offense, but they never aggressively pursued any big time offensive players. We have more talent on this team than the Ravens had on the offensive side of the ball and if we get a QB here, we would be able able to make some things happen next season. That is the biggest key. No coach can suceed in the NFL without a decent QB.

I don't know about that. If he can't develop an O without proven players, why bring him here? We have no QB, and he obviously can't develop one. He was with the ravens for almost a decade, and you're telling me it's not his fault they never went after anyone? He's the one that chose to stick with Boller. As a so called "offensive guru" you'd think he know better, and should have gotten more out of his players. Billick is obviously an "ok" pick for the fans who have become accustomed to York-esque type moves.

[ Edited by blunt_probe on Jan 1, 2011 at 15:45:32 ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
^^^^ Because i knew nothing about Billick before you posed that

You can thank me later.
Originally posted by DaveWilcox:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by 49Fever:
I think he's one of the guys with the best inside info on the niners.
Here's his latest article. The idea of a Billick-Lewis combo sounds nice to my ears. The fact Billick worked with Walsh, Dennis Green and led the ravens to a SB title (with Trent Dilfer at QB for God's sake) is nice on his resume. He also was OC for that great Vikings offense in the nineties.
Lewis is one of the best D coach available if let go by the bungles

billick could never develop a qb with the ravens and that would concern me about his being niners next coach

Just a little FYI for you and the parrots that keep bringing this up. NFL head coaches DO NOT DEVELOP QUARTERBACKS. That isn't their job and isn't what they do all day long. Basing a head coaching hire on the ability or inability to develop a QB is stupid, plain and simple.

If you don't think BW had a hand in developing Montana or Young, you're mistaken.

That is an exception not the norm Dave.
Originally posted by mayo49:
If we don't get Harbaugh, Billick would be a nice fall back.

Option as is JIM, Option B is Billick. But why would i want B when i can have A!!!
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by NorCaL9er:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by daWest:
Originally posted by Joecool:
LOL. He will retain Alex and try to hit lightning in a bottle twice with crap QBs.

Word.

you guys make it like alex will want to come back to the 9ers next year..

he'll go away and in 2 years he'll be the quarterback of a playoff team

It's still his best chance to start.

These people sound so sure that he'll go somewhere else and be successful..They seem so sure. LOL

Depends of where he goes. If he goes somewhere with a competent offensive coaching staff and an actual NFL offensive line I guaranty he will!

do you guaranty it?

Lol. I wouldn't be so sure to GUARANTEE anything about Alex Smith. Just look at the Jets and Mark Sanchez. He has great talent around him, but he can't seem to get it done. Goes to show you that even if you have a great staff and supporting cast, the QB DOES MATTER.
You guys do know its spelt guaranty also right?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guaranty

Spelt? Oh really.