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49ers players bag on coaching staff
Nov 27, 2010 at 2:44 AM
- toppdogg32
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Finally....SOMEONE SAID 'BAG' instaead of 'BANG' (i.e.- The staff got "bagged" on NOT "banged" on.) If the world is gonna steal our slang.. at least say the fricken words right. FINALLY, somebody said the sh!t right !!
Nov 27, 2010 at 6:06 AM
- SybErkRimInAL
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it was bound to happen sooner or later. We have players that wanna win on this team, many of them. It's only natural for them to lash out at the main reason why our record is where it's at.
Nov 27, 2010 at 6:37 AM
- 190836
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Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by TheTruth:
I wish our beat writers would just post some of the things we zoners say week in and week out. Does it really take ELEVEN weeks to spell the obvious.
Those little nerds ( Barrows, Maiacco, Kawakami Killion) that call themselves football writers should be canned immediately. Now they talk tough, now they see the problem- STFU. Nedney would b***h slap all four of them together. We don't need cheerleaders, we have plenty of those ugly f**kers already, and they keep their mouths shut. I want the truth and I don't want it after us paying folks already figured it out! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude Barrows has been clowning the Singletary Filosophy since week 1 of last season. Maiocco is an unbiased, neutral guy, that's what he does and he's been mighty successful because of that stance. Eric Branch is also really good, we're lucky to have some pretty good beat writers. Don't get made at them because our coaching staff sucks the big one.
Eric Branch is a great reporter that goes unnoticed.
Nov 27, 2010 at 7:00 AM
- Sourball
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And Jerry Sullivan has not produced a single WR in all his many years with the team
I agree, sometimes coaches get good reps for coaching players with talent like he got his for Fitzgerald and Boldin, Mooch got his for being Favres QB coach etc. Maybe he made Josh Morgan a good blocker? Does Sullivan get credit for Brandon Lloyd?
The main point is that the entire coaching staff has failed but so have a lot of players. Don't you think that Clements would try a little bit harder on a real team, like if he played in NE or alongside Revis? The team also needs a "REAL" personell guy along with new coaches.
On a side note, how great would it have been to have drafted Justin Smith to play along side BY? I know he was drafted before the Niners picked but they would have made an incredible duo and the guy deserves to play on a winning team like the 49ers of old.
I agree, sometimes coaches get good reps for coaching players with talent like he got his for Fitzgerald and Boldin, Mooch got his for being Favres QB coach etc. Maybe he made Josh Morgan a good blocker? Does Sullivan get credit for Brandon Lloyd?
The main point is that the entire coaching staff has failed but so have a lot of players. Don't you think that Clements would try a little bit harder on a real team, like if he played in NE or alongside Revis? The team also needs a "REAL" personell guy along with new coaches.
On a side note, how great would it have been to have drafted Justin Smith to play along side BY? I know he was drafted before the Niners picked but they would have made an incredible duo and the guy deserves to play on a winning team like the 49ers of old.
Nov 27, 2010 at 10:59 AM
- susweel
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Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by unst4bl3:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:This, id take alex over Troy with a real OC, wait till next year when troy is still here with a diff oc, and looks worse than carr trying to run the offense.Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:Originally posted by Kolohe:
We need to turn the page and close the book on Sing, the entire coaching staff (except Tom Rathman) and Alex Smith and the rest of the QB's not named Troy Smith.
Seriously??
His play so far has been good enough to be at least a decent back-up on this team.
Let me guess, your still holding out hope for Alex D. Smith??
I would take him as a backup easy. Imagine if he had a decent coordinator.
I think Rubberneck36 is saying he'd take Troy not Alex as a back-up. But I'd take Troy Smith over Alex Smith all day, no questions asked.
With a good OC there's no way you take Troy over Alex. In the long run you're gonna need a guy who can throw from the pocket.
You mean like this:
Great, one play. And he looked like Nate Davis vs. Tampa.
Actually he looked more Alex Smith vs Tampa.
Nov 27, 2010 at 11:17 AM
- 49erRider
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Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by unst4bl3:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:This, id take alex over Troy with a real OC, wait till next year when troy is still here with a diff oc, and looks worse than carr trying to run the offense.Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:Originally posted by Kolohe:
We need to turn the page and close the book on Sing, the entire coaching staff (except Tom Rathman) and Alex Smith and the rest of the QB's not named Troy Smith.
Seriously??
His play so far has been good enough to be at least a decent back-up on this team.
Let me guess, your still holding out hope for Alex D. Smith??
I would take him as a backup easy. Imagine if he had a decent coordinator.
I think Rubberneck36 is saying he'd take Troy not Alex as a back-up. But I'd take Troy Smith over Alex Smith all day, no questions asked.
With a good OC there's no way you take Troy over Alex. In the long run you're gonna need a guy who can throw from the pocket.
You mean like this:
Great, one play. And he looked like Nate Davis vs. Tampa.
Actually he looked more Alex Smith vs Tampa.
I don't understand why everyone tries to bag on Nate Davis. He's looked bad in ONE (1) preseason game.
Nov 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM
- susweel
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Originally posted by 49erRider:Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by binary2nd:Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by unst4bl3:Originally posted by Rubberneck36:This, id take alex over Troy with a real OC, wait till next year when troy is still here with a diff oc, and looks worse than carr trying to run the offense.Originally posted by Kolohe:Originally posted by CrAnKD4TCRabTree:Originally posted by Kolohe:
We need to turn the page and close the book on Sing, the entire coaching staff (except Tom Rathman) and Alex Smith and the rest of the QB's not named Troy Smith.
Seriously??
His play so far has been good enough to be at least a decent back-up on this team.
Let me guess, your still holding out hope for Alex D. Smith??
I would take him as a backup easy. Imagine if he had a decent coordinator.
I think Rubberneck36 is saying he'd take Troy not Alex as a back-up. But I'd take Troy Smith over Alex Smith all day, no questions asked.
With a good OC there's no way you take Troy over Alex. In the long run you're gonna need a guy who can throw from the pocket.
You mean like this:
Great, one play. And he looked like Nate Davis vs. Tampa.
Actually he looked more Alex Smith vs Tampa.
I don't understand why everyone tries to bag on Nate Davis. He's looked bad in ONE (1) preseason game.
seriously
Nov 27, 2010 at 12:18 PM
- 9erfanAUS
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Ya, concurrently, I have no idea why people still think Nate Davis might be able to turn it around and become a serviceable quarterback.
A good majority of the Webzone feared that Davis would be claimed off waivers and placed on a 53 man roster, but alas, 31 other teams have passed on him. Doesn't that say a lot?
And 1 bad preseason game?
2009 Preseason stats:
29/49 59.1% 314 yards 6.4yards/attempt 2TDs 1INT
2010 Preseason stats:
23/44 52.3% 301 yards 6.8 yards/attempt 1TD 2INT
Seems mediocre to me.
-9fA
A good majority of the Webzone feared that Davis would be claimed off waivers and placed on a 53 man roster, but alas, 31 other teams have passed on him. Doesn't that say a lot?
And 1 bad preseason game?
2009 Preseason stats:
29/49 59.1% 314 yards 6.4yards/attempt 2TDs 1INT
2010 Preseason stats:
23/44 52.3% 301 yards 6.8 yards/attempt 1TD 2INT
Seems mediocre to me.
-9fA
Nov 27, 2010 at 12:39 PM
- susweel
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Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:
Ya, concurrently, I have no idea why people still think Nate Davis might be able to turn it around and become a serviceable quarterback.
A good majority of the Webzone feared that Davis would be claimed off waivers and placed on a 53 man roster, but alas, 31 other teams have passed on him. Doesn't that say a lot?
And 1 bad preseason game?
2009 Preseason stats:
29/49 59.1% 314 yards 6.4yards/attempt 2TDs 1INT
2010 Preseason stats:
23/44 52.3% 301 yards 6.8 yards/attempt 1TD 2INT
Seems mediocre to me.
-9fA
Yah he's about as good as Smith is in the pre season.
Nov 28, 2010 at 7:05 AM
- Dshearn
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Originally posted by leakyfausett:Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by leakyfausett:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by 9erfanAUS:Originally posted by English:Originally posted by Frisco69ers:Originally posted by AJ_Larrea954:
Everybody in our coaching staff sucks. Point blank after these last 6 games they better all be gone
wrong Jerry Sullivan is great
so is Tomsula and Mike Solari will get it together
What has Sullivan done to justify being called great?
Agreed. Not a big fan of Sullivan at the moment. For all the supposed respect that he commands around the league, he hasn't accomplished much during his time here.
The only coaches worth keeping are Hoener and Tomsula.
-9fA
Not given up on Solari yet. Yet.
Solari is handcuffed by the scheme and the fact that the other teams know the plays being run. The o-line gets a lot of criticism but they don't always get a fair shake considering this 3rd grade offense we are running.
Solariexcuses
Come up with something useful the "Nameexcuses are getting old. If you put the best o-line in the nfl in our scheme against defenses that are being tipped to the play they would struggle to. When retard fans at home know the play being run before the snap you are asking the line to somehow blow up a defense that is zeroed in on the coming play that is asking a lot.
You mean....like how the 92 cowboys can run emmitt smith over the rg over and over in the playoffs with a separated shoulder?
The best olines in the world make coaches win.
Thats the problem.....they dont have that line
Nov 28, 2010 at 7:50 AM
- smithgdwg
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Originally posted by Sourball:
And Jerry Sullivan has not produced a single WR in all his many years with the team
I agree, sometimes coaches get good reps for coaching players with talent like he got his for Fitzgerald and Boldin, Mooch got his for being Favres QB coach etc. Maybe he made Josh Morgan a good blocker? Does Sullivan get credit for Brandon Lloyd?
The main point is that the entire coaching staff has failed but so have a lot of players. Don't you think that Clements would try a little bit harder on a real team, like if he played in NE or alongside Revis? The team also needs a "REAL" personell guy along with new coaches.
On a side note, how great would it have been to have drafted Justin Smith to play along side BY? I know he was drafted before the Niners picked but they would have made an incredible duo and the guy deserves to play on a winning team like the 49ers of old.
You must have not seen the memo.
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Nov 28, 2010 at 7:52 AM
- Dajanksta
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I don't think I like any of our coaches except rb coach. It seems like they all under perform and have been for years now.
Nov 28, 2010 at 8:40 AM
- carl
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Like it or not, this is Singletary's team until the season is over. And like it or not, Singletary has managed to make himself irreplaceable this season because he's surrounded by inexperienced or incompetent coaches. And he's low on coaching staff as well. That is insight into what his other team management decisions have been and their probable outcome.
Hopefully the 49ers organization has learned that they are not wise enough to hire noobs to run the team. Hopefully they clean house on the teams management and try to get some more experienced people making decisions.
And yes, it's very very frustrating to see the 49ers make absolutely zero adjustment to their game plan. It's obvious they don't know how to do it. At least offensively. The game against the Buc's was a f**king joke and I wasn't laughing.
Hopefully the 49ers organization has learned that they are not wise enough to hire noobs to run the team. Hopefully they clean house on the teams management and try to get some more experienced people making decisions.
And yes, it's very very frustrating to see the 49ers make absolutely zero adjustment to their game plan. It's obvious they don't know how to do it. At least offensively. The game against the Buc's was a f**king joke and I wasn't laughing.
Nov 28, 2010 at 8:52 AM
- 49erFaithful6
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Originally posted by carl:
Like it or not, this is Singletary's team until the season is over. And like it or not, Singletary has managed to make himself irreplaceable this season because he's surrounded by inexperienced or incompetent coaches. And he's low on coaching staff as well. That is insight into what his other team management decisions have been and their probable outcome.
Hopefully the 49ers organization has learned that they are not wise enough to hire noobs to run the team. Hopefully they clean house on the teams management and try to get some more experienced people making decisions.
And yes, it's very very frustrating to see the 49ers make absolutely zero adjustment to their game plan. It's obvious they don't know how to do it. At least offensively. The game against the Buc's was a f**king joke and I wasn't laughing.
Very true.
What's funny is that the one guy that could have possibly saved Singletary's tenure with San Francisco was turned away by Sing because they didn't see eye-to-eye... Mike Martz.
Martz knows x's and o's and with Martz and Sing as interim coach the team won games.
Sing ditched Martz, pursued Scott Linehan, failed to get him, then got Raye, went 8-8, kept Raye throughout the offseason, canned him very early this year, and the team simply does not understand how to coordinate offensively.
Meanwhile Martz is on 7-3 Chicago.
Nov 28, 2010 at 9:08 AM
- carl
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:Originally posted by carl:
Like it or not, this is Singletary's team until the season is over. And like it or not, Singletary has managed to make himself irreplaceable this season because he's surrounded by inexperienced or incompetent coaches. And he's low on coaching staff as well. That is insight into what his other team management decisions have been and their probable outcome.
Hopefully the 49ers organization has learned that they are not wise enough to hire noobs to run the team. Hopefully they clean house on the teams management and try to get some more experienced people making decisions.
And yes, it's very very frustrating to see the 49ers make absolutely zero adjustment to their game plan. It's obvious they don't know how to do it. At least offensively. The game against the Buc's was a f**king joke and I wasn't laughing.
Very true.
What's funny is that the one guy that could have possibly saved Singletary's tenure with San Francisco was turned away by Sing because they didn't see eye-to-eye... Mike Martz.
Martz knows x's and o's and with Martz and Sing as interim coach the team won games.
Sing ditched Martz, pursued Scott Linehan, failed to get him, then got Raye, went 8-8, kept Raye throughout the offseason, canned him very early this year, and the team simply does not understand how to coordinate offensively.
Meanwhile Martz is on 7-3 Chicago.
Yes, agree 100%
Singletary was quick to forget who got him the job in the first place: Mike Martz.
Sure, after Nolan got fired Singletary told Manusky to dumb down the defense and left Manusky alone. At the time that seemed genius, in hindsight that was all Singletary could do because he has no idea how to run a defense.
As for Mad Mike Martz, I knew our team was going to fail when he was not resigned. He's done an outstanding job in Chicago and Shaun Hill has been putting up the points in lowly Detroit. And you're right, who did we replace those guys with? Jimmy Raye and David Carr. Wow! F**KING WOW!
One of the things I recall Singletary not liking about Martz was that he wouldn't run the ball. And sure, Martz didn't use Vernon Davis much because he needed the extra pass blocker. But we scored points with a backup QB, a bad offensive line and subpar receivers. And for that, we let Martz leave and signed a "Yes Man" in Jimmy Raye, who ran the ball just as Singletary wanted.
I'm very happy for Mike Martz and Shaun Hill. I wish they were still with us. We would be 7-3, if not better.