Originally posted by Archie:It would be much easier to follow your thoughts if you would post BELOW the last previous comment.
He was still better than Alex Smith. If Flacco is so mediocre then Alex Smith must be below poor. Flacco is a quality player at the qb position, not a superstar but a quality player, whereas Alex Smith is not. I agree with other posters Flacco got the job because of money politics and because he is a good player. I don't think Troy got cut for bad performance. Heck, Kurt Warner would never had a chance to start if Trent Green were healthy and clearly Warner was a better player than Green. Troy Smith is the best qb we have had since Jeff Garcia.
Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by rob28:Go back and read my definition of mediocre, or did you "fail" to read that?Originally posted by dj43:Originally posted by DesiDez:Of course Newsome will say something good about the guy. He drafted him.
According to Jim Tressel....
Tressel said being that he has never coached in the NFL, he didn't really know if Smith had what it took to be a starter in the pros. So he asked someone who did know.
"It's tough for me to project what they need at that level because I've never coached it, obviously never played it, so I really don't know much about that level of football," Tressel said. "When Troy had spent two years at Baltimore, I had a chance to spend some time with (general manager) Ozzie Newsome. He said to me, he said without question Troy was the finest natural leader that maybe he'd ever seen and that there was no doubt in his mind he was going to be a starter in the NFL.
"Troy, I guess he had a heck of a game," Tressel said. "I got a text from his quarterback coach saying, 'hey, he did a tremendous job and has done a great job leading.'"
OTOH, if Smith was such a great leader, why didn't regain his job from a very mediocre Joe Flacco?
I fear we are all building up great hope for a guy who has performed well against two weak teams. Let's hang back a bit until we see how he fares against the Bucs, GB and the Chargers. If we are still singing his praises after those three games, then we can indeed have high hopes for 2011.
i stopped at "mediocre joe flacco" a mediocre rookie qb from delaware who led the ravens to the afc championship game. you fail.
Flacco did not LEAD the Ravens. The defense kicked everybody's behind and he had a great running game. THAT was what led the Ravens. He threw for 14 TDs and 12 INTs and had a QB rating of 80.3.
In the playoff game against the Titans he had two chances to take his team down the field to win and he failed both times, IIRC.
This thread is about the Raven's QB situation. IN THAT CONTEXT, Joe Flacco has played on a very average level compared to the rest of the QBs in the league. That makes HIM average. In fact, his stats suggest that if he were playing on a team with a lesser defense, he might not even be average. He normally has good field position and relatively little pressure on him to "win the game" for his team.