Is Season Officially Lost If We Lose To Oakland?

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by BETTERDAYZ9ERS:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood:
Thread starter, this is not directed at you but i'm wondering why so many people keep marking the London game against Denver as a win. Not just a win, but I keep seeing people comment as if the Niners don't even have to show up. Kyle Orton's numbers are better than Brees. He's top 3 in most statistical categories. Brandon Lloyd is leading all receivers. They will have Knownshon Moreno back by then. It's marked as a home game, but it's over sea's, so it's a ROAD game. And we suck on the road. I realize Denver is not a powerhouse, but at 0-5, and seeing how this game is not being played at the stick, I consider Denver to be heavily favored. Especially since our secondary is so weak and the complete lack of a pass rush. I thought this team could go 10-6 if they could steal either the NOL or ATL game. They failed to do so. Not only that, they lost to Seattle and Philly. At this point. I think we lose the Denver game, the Green Bay game and either one AZ or STL game. I know we have owned the Cards in the past, but they always play us tough regardless. And lets face it, St Louis gives us fits no matter how bad they suck when we play them in St Louis. Bradford is out playing Smith. I just don't see us finishing better than 9-7. 8-8 if we are lucky.

Bradford - 1159 Yards 56.7%COMP 6TD's 8INT's, sacked 11 times. QB rating 66.5
Smith - 1229 Yards 62.1%COMP 6TD's 9INT's, sacked 10 times. QB rating 71.6

Although Bradford will definitely be the better NFL QB no doubt.

You know a better stat?

Bradford=2 wins
Smith=0

Who has the better team around them?

I'm not gonna get sucked in to this but he said Bradford has outplayed Smith and Smith has better #'s. That's it.

Like I said the only thing that matters to me is wins and losses.

Fair enough, then Trent Dilfers year where the Ravens won the Superbowl, he outplayed any of Dan Marinos seasons, yes?

Didn't outplay Marino, but outplayed everyone they played. Go ahead and ask Marino whether he'd rather have a ring instead of good stats.

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
In basically any other division our season is done already. However, in what may turn out to be the worst division in NFL history we have a chance right now. If we lose to Oakland? Then yeah no chance.

this is the right answer

Yes, the season is lost if we lose to Oakland. Not only because of the 0-6 record, but because the Raiders are a horrible team. Even if they do have two more wins than the 49ers we should beat the snot out of them.

might as well be. 0-6 with a loss to the raiders is pretty f**kin horrible

Originally posted by danimal:

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:
In basically any other division our season is done already. However, in what may turn out to be the worst division in NFL history we have a chance right now. If we lose to Oakland? Then yeah no chance.

this is the right answer

Someone of the 3 teams ahead of us will at least be 8-8. We would have to finish 8-3 or better and have a tie breaker edge to win the division, highly unlikely from a poorly coached 0-5 team with a shaky QB, and no pass rush.

Originally posted by Jabuke:

Originally posted by binary2nd:
They have to win their next three games, period. Oakland is going to be like a road game because the home crowd will be absolutely brutal. The two after the bye are really easy. If they can get back to .500 with 6 more games left, they should be ok.

The Offense can't go through Gore either, it's just not gonna work. It's gotta be through Alex that we win.

Sitting at 0-5, I don't know how you can say that with a straight face.

how do we know he's not grinning

if we lose to the raiders, we might as well go 0-16 and be buddies with the detroit lions

[ Edited by seeking6th on Oct 15, 2010 at 12:23:31 ]

I'm gonna bump giving up threads like these when we win 4 out of the next 5

Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?

yes it was definitely over once the GERMANS had bombed pearl harbor

Originally posted by binary2nd:
They have to win their next three games, period. Oakland is going to be like a road game because the home crowd will be absolutely brutal. The two after the bye are really easy. If they can get back to .500 with 6 more games left, they should be ok.

The Offense can't go through Gore either, it's just not gonna work. It's gotta be through Alex that we win.

we havent won 3 straight games since 2002. its been 8 years. thats so pathetic. i dont see us being able to all the sudden win 3 games after starting 0-5.

Originally posted by Kalen49ers:

Originally posted by Hollywood:
Thread starter, this is not directed at you but i'm wondering why so many people keep marking the London game against Denver as a win. Not just a win, but I keep seeing people comment as if the Niners don't even have to show up. Kyle Orton's numbers are better than Brees. He's top 3 in most statistical categories. Brandon Lloyd is leading all receivers. They will have Knownshon Moreno back by then. It's marked as a home game, but it's over sea's, so it's a ROAD game. And we suck on the road. I realize Denver is not a powerhouse, but at 0-5, and seeing how this game is not being played at the stick, I consider Denver to be heavily favored. Especially since our secondary is so weak and the complete lack of a pass rush. I thought this team could go 10-6 if they could steal either the NOL or ATL game. They failed to do so. Not only that, they lost to Seattle and Philly. At this point. I think we lose the Denver game, the Green Bay game and either one AZ or STL game. I know we have owned the Cards in the past, but they always play us tough regardless. And lets face it, St Louis gives us fits no matter how bad they suck when we play them in St Louis. Bradford is out playing Smith. I just don't see us finishing better than 9-7. 8-8 if we are lucky.

Bradford - 1159 Yards 56.7%COMP 6TD's 8INT's, sacked 11 times. QB rating 66.5
Smith - 1229 Yards 62.1%COMP 6TD's 9INT's, sacked 10 times. QB rating 71.6

Although Bradford will definitely be the better NFL QB no doubt.

I see what you are saying and techinically I’m wrong, you are right. But I was looking at it like this. Smith has commited more turnovers and is winless. Whereas all the categories Smith has the lead on…it’s a very very small lead.


Bradford Turnovers (INT’s and Fumbles) = 8 Int’s 0 Fumbles
Smith Turnovers = 9 Int’s 3 Fumbles

Total Turnovers, Smith has a total of 12 to Bradfords 8

Smith has a far better supporting cast. The Rams do not have any stand out WR’s or TE’s. We have Davis, Crabtree has moments, and I’d take Josh Morgan over all of the Ram’s receivers minus Mark Clayton who is now out. I

Bradford has won games, and done less to sabotage his team, unlike Smith who is working on maintaining his reputation as a turnover machine and doing so quite well I might add. Bradford doesn’t have a Vernon Davis who can run over or run by guys on a seam pattern for long touchdowns.

But I get what you are saying. Overall, Smith does technically have better stats by a very very small margin. It’s sad that its’ even close considering 1. Smith is in his 6th season. And 2, has a much better supporting cast. People keep making excuses for Smith.
Not to turn this into a Smith thread, it just baffles me how people can make excuses for Smith, yet all these other QB’s come in and perform respectably in their first season. Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Stafford, Palmer, I could go on and on. Now Bradford. Max Hall will probably be next to have a rookie season that surpasses Alex Smith's first 4 seasons in the league like so many others. I know you are not saying otherwise, I just needed to vent, lol.

Originally posted by 9erfan4life:
really the div winner might have 6 or 7 wins lol[/quote

we could be the best turd in the toilet

The season is already over. No 0-5 team under Singetary is going to recover enough to make the postseason.

Some team is going to go 8-8 in the division, and the Niners are not going to finish the season with an 8-3 record.

[ Edited by MadDog49er on Oct 15, 2010 at 13:24:45 ]

The season is already over!!!!

Originally posted by MadDog49er:
The season is already over. No 0-5 team under Singetary is going to recover enough to make the postseason.

Some team is going to go 8-8 in the division, and the Niners are not going to finish the season with an 8-3 record.

TANY