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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by bret:
Originally posted by prometheus:
What Young is saying is saying is Singletary is a grade A nincompoop and best left out in the Amazon with 100 ft snakes. He can punch them in the mouth. Singletary is a frustrated hell and brimstone demagogue with an endless loop recording. One wonders how someone so inept can cause every function of the team to be bad. One thing we should consider is that having talent and some decent coaches, just how f**ked up an idiot is Singletary to get the results he is getting? I would say he is one of the dumbest most useless coaches ever. Steve obviously believes Singletary is a major detriment to the team but just eliminating him from the offense is not enough.
He screws up the game plans both offense and defense, he cannot strategize at any level, he is ill prepared and as shown is about as organized as the federal government, he is outsmarted so easily and constantly and so blatantly
he should go out there bare ass naked and show all his cards. He has nothing else to expose.

Did actually LISTEN to the interview?!

It was very insightful! You might learn something!

When he talked about the offense in his years kicking Seifert out of the room and when he talked about Alex being too tight for fear of making mistakes, he was making a clear reference to Sing attempting to instill his conservative defensive mentality on offensive players with negative results.

YES, it was a criticism of Sing, but it wasn't all black and white, like you make it sound. It suggested some real avenues for improvement!

The most interesting thing he brought up (besides the whole Smith/Sing thing) was in reference to the Nate Clements play: he got to talking about veteran leadership and standards. His reference to Ray Lewis was fascinating! Every fan should listen to this! In fact, so should every Niner player and coach!

That's what I was hoping for- that the team would have the chance to hear this radio interview. It doesn't matter how much we talk about it.
What are the chances that the team heard it or not? Im here on the East coast so im not sure how a lot works with the organization, how in tune they are with the local media. I believe KNBR is pretty big there in SF and with Steve Young doing an interview on his opinion, maybe it would be streamed live in Santa Clara at the facility. What are the chances? Definitely would appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks guys
So many people this summer were pumped about "smashmouth". Hilarious!
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Just proves what all the realists are saying...the WRs aren't all covered. It's not their fault. The fault is that Smith won't LET IT RIP b/c he's too damn scared to throw the ball down the field and throw a pick. 4th lowest Y/A. You have to THROW your WRs open. Let the ball rip Smith! Rid yourself of the Capt. Checkdown label this week!

Nice to hear Steve lend some support to our position. Some on here would have you think that their the only ones with knowledge and blow everyone else off as they sit around and cirlcle jerk each other. In reality, it's not that they are right, but they are the only ones willing to spend hours arguing.
[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Oct 7, 2010 at 5:56 AM ]
Originally posted by MadDog49er:
So many people this summer were pumped about "smashmouth". Hilarious!

I think that logic is flawed. There is nothing wrong with running smash mouth football, its how you execute and design plays. That's like saying we want to be a passing team, but we cant pass efffectively. Does that mean passing doesnt work? I'm not saying it's not a passing league, but I'm pretty sure Smash mouth works, just not the way Sing runs it.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by bret:
Originally posted by prometheus:
What Young is saying is saying is Singletary is a grade A nincompoop and best left out in the Amazon with 100 ft snakes. He can punch them in the mouth. Singletary is a frustrated hell and brimstone demagogue with an endless loop recording. One wonders how someone so inept can cause every function of the team to be bad. One thing we should consider is that having talent and some decent coaches, just how f**ked up an idiot is Singletary to get the results he is getting? I would say he is one of the dumbest most useless coaches ever. Steve obviously believes Singletary is a major detriment to the team but just eliminating him from the offense is not enough.
He screws up the game plans both offense and defense, he cannot strategize at any level, he is ill prepared and as shown is about as organized as the federal government, he is outsmarted so easily and constantly and so blatantly
he should go out there bare ass naked and show all his cards. He has nothing else to expose.

Did actually LISTEN to the interview?!

It was very insightful! You might learn something!

When he talked about the offense in his years kicking Seifert out of the room and when he talked about Alex being too tight for fear of making mistakes, he was making a clear reference to Sing attempting to instill his conservative defensive mentality on offensive players with negative results.

YES, it was a criticism of Sing, but it wasn't all black and white, like you make it sound. It suggested some real avenues for improvement!

The most interesting thing he brought up (besides the whole Smith/Sing thing) was in reference to the Nate Clements play: he got to talking about veteran leadership and standards. His reference to Ray Lewis was fascinating! Every fan should listen to this! In fact, so should every Niner player and coach!
The Lewis reference was classic. Called him a Pro's Pro. Always talking to other players on the sideline reminding them of play situations and how to deal with them. Also said that it takes more than just the coaches to instill all the info in the players. It is up to the vets to constantly tutor the younger players. He referred to Ronnie Lott as another guy who was always leading the younger guys both verbally and on the field.

It IS a good interview.

We have no real leadership on this team.

I really wish Alex would take that role but it can be tough when you've NEVER had examples. Montana and Young had Walsh. Our guys have/had...Don Nolaneone & Dingleberry.

We just need to start over.
Yep, that is a big part of the problem. During the Donahue years they let all the vets get so old without replacing any of them that when they all got too old at the same time, there was no one to pass down the 49er standard.

Part of the genius of Bill Walsh was to always make sure the team had solid veteran leadership. Guys like Randy Cross, Jack Reynolds, Guy McIntyre, Harris Barton, were not as well known to the fans but they took care of things on the field and in the clubhouse. Rookies were told what to expect and how to act. They were tutored in "the 49er way" from their first day in meetings. There were no divas on the team in those days. Some of the stories Brent Jones has told about his good friend Harris Barton are classic. He had a sense of humor but it was all serious when a rook got out of bounds.

I heard Walsh do an interview once, and while Niner fans were crediting Montana, Lott, Fred Dean and Dwight Clark for the 1981 championship, Walsh singled out Hacksaw Reynolds.

He said Reynols was the key acquisition, because he was such a tremendous student of the game and such a tremendous veteran leader in the locker-room and on the field.

It was much like Steve Young's Ray Lewis comment.

Young has said this over and over: veteran leadership.

What the Niners really need is not to sign Jonas Jennings and Nate Clemens and Takeo Spikes (no offense meant to any of them), who were solid players on average (at best) teams; but instead sign "effort" guys from great teams, like KC signed Mike Vrabel from the Patriiots. I'd bet the house that is a big part of why they're having success in year two of their rebuild, while we're still stuck in the mud in year six!
Steve said pretty much how I feel about the offense. I do think the talent is there, but it is being completely mishandled. As for Alex, "let it rip", or someone else will next year.
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Steve Young has always been political about his criticism of Alex Smith. He's ripped SMith quite a few times since 2005, and has received criticism for it (primarily from the Niner fanbase).

The reality is that as a QB, you're expected to make decisions. Again, lets not forget that Smith is a 6 YEAR VETERAN, not a rookie. He shouldnt have to look at Sing everytime he's behind center, and ask for his approval when calling plays.

Steve is indirectly attacking Smith.....and justifiably so.
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Originally posted by ZRF80:
He shouldnt have to look at Sing everytime he's behind center, and ask for his approval when calling plays.

And just where did you come up with this "Masterfull" deduction???

LINK!!!
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Originally posted by tn9er:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
He shouldnt have to look at Sing everytime he's behind center, and ask for his approval when calling plays.

And just where did you come up with this "Masterfull" deduction???

LINK!!!


Remember when Alex called the audible last week that Gore was able to convert for a first down. Remember how all of NT went into a frenzy in the gameday thread, praising Smith for reading the defense successfully.

Remember the last time he did something like that before the Falcons game ?

Yeah, me neither.
AS and MS have to realize they both have nothing to lose and the world to gain by being more aggressive and confident. It seems to me that the way MS runs the team everyone around is afraid to tell him to his face.

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Originally posted by ZRF80:
Steve Young has always been political about his criticism of Alex Smith. He's ripped SMith quite a few times since 2005, and has received criticism for it (primarily from the Niner fanbase).

The reality is that as a QB, you're expected to make decisions. Again, lets not forget that Smith is a 6 YEAR VETERAN, not a rookie. He shouldnt have to look at Sing everytime he's behind center, and ask for his approval when calling plays.

Steve is indirectly attacking Smith.....and justifiably so.

what interview are you making up in your head? Steve DIRECTLY said Alex is a good player and that the coaching staff, specifically MS, is likely the reason for the below standard offensive play. he wants Alex to just "let it rip!"

indirectly!?!?! jesus christ Z.
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Originally posted by boast:
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Steve Young has always been political about his criticism of Alex Smith. He's ripped SMith quite a few times since 2005, and has received criticism for it (primarily from the Niner fanbase).

The reality is that as a QB, you're expected to make decisions. Again, lets not forget that Smith is a 6 YEAR VETERAN, not a rookie. He shouldnt have to look at Sing everytime he's behind center, and ask for his approval when calling plays.

Steve is indirectly attacking Smith.....and justifiably so.

what interview are you making up in your head? Steve DIRECTLY said Alex is a good player and that the coaching staff, specifically MS, is likely the reason for the below standard offensive play. he wants Alex to just "let it rip!"

indirectly!?!?! jesus christ Z.

See bolded statements. A 6 year veteran being held back by his coaches. Why ? Cause he doesnt want to displease them, so he does exactly what they tell him to.

Right.....
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by bret:
Originally posted by prometheus:
What Young is saying is saying is Singletary is a grade A nincompoop and best left out in the Amazon with 100 ft snakes. He can punch them in the mouth. Singletary is a frustrated hell and brimstone demagogue with an endless loop recording. One wonders how someone so inept can cause every function of the team to be bad. One thing we should consider is that having talent and some decent coaches, just how f**ked up an idiot is Singletary to get the results he is getting? I would say he is one of the dumbest most useless coaches ever. Steve obviously believes Singletary is a major detriment to the team but just eliminating him from the offense is not enough.
He screws up the game plans both offense and defense, he cannot strategize at any level, he is ill prepared and as shown is about as organized as the federal government, he is outsmarted so easily and constantly and so blatantly
he should go out there bare ass naked and show all his cards. He has nothing else to expose.

Did actually LISTEN to the interview?!

It was very insightful! You might learn something!

When he talked about the offense in his years kicking Seifert out of the room and when he talked about Alex being too tight for fear of making mistakes, he was making a clear reference to Sing attempting to instill his conservative defensive mentality on offensive players with negative results.

YES, it was a criticism of Sing, but it wasn't all black and white, like you make it sound. It suggested some real avenues for improvement!

The most interesting thing he brought up (besides the whole Smith/Sing thing) was in reference to the Nate Clements play: he got to talking about veteran leadership and standards. His reference to Ray Lewis was fascinating! Every fan should listen to this! In fact, so should every Niner player and coach!

That's what I was hoping for- that the team would have the chance to hear this radio interview. It doesn't matter how much we talk about it.
What are the chances that the team heard it or not? Im here on the East coast so im not sure how a lot works with the organization, how in tune they are with the local media. I believe KNBR is pretty big there in SF and with Steve Young doing an interview on his opinion, maybe it would be streamed live in Santa Clara at the facility. What are the chances? Definitely would appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks guys

Maybe some feedback from anyone in SF, thanks
Here's what I posted yesterday on the "Whats wrong with Alex thread":

Its REALLY simple whats wrong with him:

1. He has NO swag whatsoever! He plays with no emotion, confidence and has no "f*ck it about him.

2. He's not accurate.
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by bret:
Originally posted by prometheus:
What Young is saying is saying is Singletary is a grade A nincompoop and best left out in the Amazon with 100 ft snakes. He can punch them in the mouth. Singletary is a frustrated hell and brimstone demagogue with an endless loop recording. One wonders how someone so inept can cause every function of the team to be bad. One thing we should consider is that having talent and some decent coaches, just how f**ked up an idiot is Singletary to get the results he is getting? I would say he is one of the dumbest most useless coaches ever. Steve obviously believes Singletary is a major detriment to the team but just eliminating him from the offense is not enough.
He screws up the game plans both offense and defense, he cannot strategize at any level, he is ill prepared and as shown is about as organized as the federal government, he is outsmarted so easily and constantly and so blatantly
he should go out there bare ass naked and show all his cards. He has nothing else to expose.

Did actually LISTEN to the interview?!

It was very insightful! You might learn something!

When he talked about the offense in his years kicking Seifert out of the room and when he talked about Alex being too tight for fear of making mistakes, he was making a clear reference to Sing attempting to instill his conservative defensive mentality on offensive players with negative results.

YES, it was a criticism of Sing, but it wasn't all black and white, like you make it sound. It suggested some real avenues for improvement!

The most interesting thing he brought up (besides the whole Smith/Sing thing) was in reference to the Nate Clements play: he got to talking about veteran leadership and standards. His reference to Ray Lewis was fascinating! Every fan should listen to this! In fact, so should every Niner player and coach!

That's what I was hoping for- that the team would have the chance to hear this radio interview. It doesn't matter how much we talk about it.
What are the chances that the team heard it or not? Im here on the East coast so im not sure how a lot works with the organization, how in tune they are with the local media. I believe KNBR is pretty big there in SF and with Steve Young doing an interview on his opinion, maybe it would be streamed live in Santa Clara at the facility. What are the chances? Definitely would appreciate some feedback on this. Thanks guys

Maybe some feedback from anyone in SF, thanks
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