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A.Smith needs some swaggggggg

Ever heard of the quote, "you must defeat the swordfish, only then can you saute it"?

To earn Aaron Rodgers swag, he's going to have to throw 300yrds 2 TDs week in and week out..
he got the money

he can get some old spice
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball



Classic apologist response. "It's not Alex's fault; everyone else has the problem"

when did I say that Smith wasn't at fault??? Matt Maiocco stated that 4 out of 5 interceptions that Smith has thrown Crabtree was the target and were tipped passes. But you're right "classic apologist response"

The little "s" that you put at the end of receiver makes it plural. Crabtree is one person so that would require the singular "receiver" to be used. Since you used the plural you stated that multiple receivers have this problem.

Now, the rest of you sentence implies that Alex is not the problem; but our receivers not catching the ball is. If you go back and look at ball placement on these INT's, you will see that your statement is not entirely accurate either.

It is a statement made by most, if not all, apologist here on the zone!


the little "s" refers to the dropped passes by the other receivers. Trust me by no means do I feel that Smith is accurate, but he isn't any less accurate than other QB's in the league. The difference is that other QB's have receivers that go after the ball and CATCH it!

Have you ever watch Alex play? Have you watched the good NFL QBs play? It is obvious that they are way more accurate than Alex. Here is a exercise you can do to help you see what everyone else does. Watch an Alex Smith highlight clip and watch a drew Breese or Peyton Manning, or even Aaron Rogers highlight clip. Watch where their WRs catch the ball and how many of their WRs have to dive or jump or reach for the passes and how many of them catch the ball while running full speed and how many are led by their QB away from the defenders.

BTW, you can't really blame the WRs that much. Jimmy Raye said this on his exit interview where he didn't have to cove for Alex anymore. He said, " We didn't think, 'We're not going to throw the ball down the field. I saw a couple go-routes fail over the top of Crabtree's head out of bounds." You can question Raye's character and call him a liar or you can realize that he is not as accurate as some of the QBs that aren't in the NFL right now.

the question is have you watched ANY nfl games? Breese, Manning and Rodgers throw passes that are off target all of the time. The difference is that they have receivers that go up and CATCH the ball. Guess what Joe Montana and Steve Young threw off target, but they had receivers that would go up and get the ball.

This is just commercial.

Sure every QB throws an off target pass once in a while. With Alex, it's the norm. He only throws an on target pass once in a while. Think about it, in all the years Alex has been here, how many receivers has he hit in stride. Very few!.. These are known facts, so I'm not sure why you want to continue this debate.

When you are a receiver trying to go after a QB's pass that is never consistent with ball placement, you are left guessing every play with "where's it gonna be this time". In College, the talent is low enough that most receivers can work with this; but, in the pros (where the ball is typically thrown before the receiver has a chance to see where the QB is aiming) the receiver has to trust the ball will be on the outside shoulder, or away from coverage, or thrown with enough touch that he can cover the delta...

I though this was common knowledge; but, who knows what you'll get here on the zone...

Did you watch the NO game? Smith was pretty money during that game. I mean how can you all a QB who completed more than 70% of his passes inaccurate all of the time?

Watch the game again and watch how our Wrs have to go to oe knee to catch the ball and jump for the ball. That's is my point is that even his best game is still pretty inaccurate.
If by "swag" you mean throwing mechanics and skill at the QB position, then yes, I agree
Originally posted by excelsior:
Let me see if I am getting this right: Alex sucks because his stats stink. Well, if that is the standard, then Frank Gore sucks too. Through three games he is ranked 26th among RBs with a 3.7 yard average. He is ranked lower as a RB than Alex is as a QB.

But, but, you say, the play calling is stupid and the line is not opening holes. Excuses, excuses. I rest my case.



I hope you get right this time.....
Originally posted by YuNGaCE:
Ever heard of the quote, "you must defeat the swordfish, only then can you saute it"?

To earn Aaron Rodgers swag, he's going to have to throw 300yrds 2 TDs week in and week out..

Ever heard of the quote, "winning breeds confidence"?

There is no comparing Rodgers to Smith, there is also no comparison between the situations they found themselves in.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Let me see if I am getting this right: Alex sucks because his stats stink. Well, if that is the standard, then Frank Gore sucks too. Through three games he is ranked 26th among RBs with a 3.7 yard average. He is ranked lower as a RB than Alex is as a QB.

But, but, you say, the play calling is stupid and the line is not opening holes. Excuses, excuses. I rest my case.

you sir are the fail poster of the day, how can you possibly compare frank friggin gore to alexis smith, who has 82 career INTs and 41 career tds. Its not even close frank gore has been a success and the backbone of our offense for years and well alex smith has done nothing in 6years.
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by excelsior:
Let me see if I am getting this right: Alex sucks because his stats stink. Well, if that is the standard, then Frank Gore sucks too. Through three games he is ranked 26th among RBs with a 3.7 yard average. He is ranked lower as a RB than Alex is as a QB.

But, but, you say, the play calling is stupid and the line is not opening holes. Excuses, excuses. I rest my case.

you sir are the fail poster of the day, how can you possibly compare frank friggin gore to alexis smith, who has 82 career INTs and 41 career tds. Its not even close frank gore has been a success and the backbone of our offense for years and well alex smith has done nothing in 6years.

Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by excelsior:
Let me see if I am getting this right: Alex sucks because his stats stink. Well, if that is the standard, then Frank Gore sucks too. Through three games he is ranked 26th among RBs with a 3.7 yard average. He is ranked lower as a RB than Alex is as a QB.

But, but, you say, the play calling is stupid and the line is not opening holes. Excuses, excuses. I rest my case.

you sir are the fail poster of the day, how can you possibly compare frank friggin gore to alexis smith, who has 82 career INTs and 41 career tds. Its not even close frank gore has been a success and the backbone of our offense for years and well alex smith has done nothing in 6years.

Obviuosly you missed the point. Drum roll please.

......Stats aren't everything.
Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by PRIMETIME21:
Originally posted by excelsior:
Let me see if I am getting this right: Alex sucks because his stats stink. Well, if that is the standard, then Frank Gore sucks too. Through three games he is ranked 26th among RBs with a 3.7 yard average. He is ranked lower as a RB than Alex is as a QB.

But, but, you say, the play calling is stupid and the line is not opening holes. Excuses, excuses. I rest my case.

you sir are the fail poster of the day, how can you possibly compare frank friggin gore to alexis smith, who has 82 career INTs and 41 career tds. Its not even close frank gore has been a success and the backbone of our offense for years and well alex smith has done nothing in 6years.


lol what are you applauding him for he completely misinterpreted the post
man some of these arguments are hilarious...
Results are important... i get that. but you fail to see the reason behind the results.. sure u can point to the quarterback.. its easy.. he touches the ball almost every play.. but honestly fellas... this is the NFL.. the Defense gets paid too... its hard enough to succeed when the D doesn't know what's coming... its next to impossible when they KNOW Precisely what is going to happen.. how can a receiver get open when a cb knows the route he is running? how can u complete a high percentage of passes? so now i ask you how do those things when you are running for your life for 60 minutes... I dont see any quarterback doing significantly better...

Dont get me wrong i dont think he is the best quarterback in the league... but i don't think has been put in a situation to succeed to this point.

just be fair...
None of you get it it...it's the judgment of an organization that would allow a QB of Alex Smith's abilities to hang around since 2005...look at Buffalo---they cut Trent Edwards today...it's a team that would hire Singletary with no HC experience...that would LET Jimmy Raye run their offense as a journeyman...that would let Nolan bully the players WHEN HE HAD NO experience...that would let Terry Donahue choose players...and so on and so on and so on...
He definitely shows more emotion than he use to but not all QBs/players walk around with swag. Some are more humble. For Alex it's hard to have swag with what he has went through. All the booing, criticism, getting thrown under the bus, his best friend committing suicide and all that stuff.
Originally posted by MONTANA9ERFAN:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
Alex Smith doesn't even know what swag is. He went to Utah.

Rodgers went to Cal who Utah just beat in the Poinsettia Bowl with a true freshman quarter back who also threw for a career high.

I can see why Cal has more swagger than Utah.

What's your point? Alex still sucks and looks confused and depressed all the time, Rodgers is a top 5 NFL QB with swag and is most likely going to the pro bowl and the playoffs.. And then some.

If you're from the bay area, more than likely have swagger. Utah is filled with Mormons and square bears.
Originally posted by Nes49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Who?



They think he's a pirate?

or Shaun Hill .........


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