Originally posted by backontop:Originally posted by flynhayn15:Originally posted by backontop:Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by backontop:Originally posted by D_Niner:Originally posted by backontop:Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...
BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!
you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball
Classic apologist response. "It's not Alex's fault; everyone else has the problem"
when did I say that Smith wasn't at fault??? Matt Maiocco stated that 4 out of 5 interceptions that Smith has thrown Crabtree was the target and were tipped passes. But you're right "classic apologist response"
The little "s" that you put at the end of receiver makes it plural. Crabtree is one person so that would require the singular "receiver" to be used. Since you used the plural you stated that multiple receivers have this problem.
Now, the rest of you sentence implies that Alex is not the problem; but our receivers not catching the ball is. If you go back and look at ball placement on these INT's, you will see that your statement is not entirely accurate either.
It is a statement made by most, if not all, apologist here on the zone!
the little "s" refers to the dropped passes by the other receivers. Trust me by no means do I feel that Smith is accurate, but he isn't any less accurate than other QB's in the league. The difference is that other QB's have receivers that go after the ball and CATCH it!
Have you ever watch Alex play? Have you watched the good NFL QBs play? It is obvious that they are way more accurate than Alex. Here is a exercise you can do to help you see what everyone else does. Watch an Alex Smith highlight clip and watch a drew Breese or Peyton Manning, or even Aaron Rogers highlight clip. Watch where their WRs catch the ball and how many of their WRs have to dive or jump or reach for the passes and how many of them catch the ball while running full speed and how many are led by their QB away from the defenders.
BTW, you can't really blame the WRs that much. Jimmy Raye said this on his exit interview where he didn't have to cove for Alex anymore. He said, " We didn't think, 'We're not going to throw the ball down the field. I saw a couple go-routes fail over the top of Crabtree's head out of bounds." You can question Raye's character and call him a liar or you can realize that he is not as accurate as some of the QBs that aren't in the NFL right now.
the question is have you watched ANY nfl games? Breese, Manning and Rodgers throw passes that are off target all of the time. The difference is that they have receivers that go up and CATCH the ball. Guess what Joe Montana and Steve Young threw off target, but they had receivers that would go up and get the ball.
This is just comical.
Sure every QB throws an off target pass once in a while. With Alex, it's the norm. He only throws an on target pass once in a while. Think about it, in all the years Alex has been here, how many receivers has he hit in stride. Very few!.. These are known facts, so I'm not sure why you want to continue this debate.
When you are a receiver trying to go after a QB's pass that is never consistent with ball placement, you are left guessing every play with "where's it gonna be this time". In College, the talent is low enough that most receivers can work with this; but, in the pros (where the ball is typically thrown before the receiver has a chance to see where the QB is aiming) the receiver has to trust the ball will be on the outside shoulder, or away from coverage, or thrown with enough touch that he can cover the delta...
I thought this was common knowledge; but, who knows what you'll get here on the zone...
[ Edited by D_Niner on Sep 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM ]