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A.Smith needs some swaggggggg

Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball



Classic apologist response. "It's not Alex's fault; everyone else has the problem"

when did I say that Smith wasn't at fault??? Matt Maiocco stated that 4 out of 5 interceptions that Smith has thrown Crabtree was the target and were tipped passes. But you're right "classic apologist response"

The little "s" that you put at the end of receiver makes it plural. Crabtree is one person so that would require the singular "receiver" to be used. Since you used the plural you stated that multiple receivers have this problem.

Now, the rest of you sentence implies that Alex is not the problem; but our receivers not catching the ball is. If you go back and look at ball placement on these INT's, you will see that your statement is not entirely accurate either.

It is a statement made by most, if not all, apologist here on the zone!


the little "s" refers to the dropped passes by the other receivers. Trust me by no means do I feel that Smith is accurate, but he isn't any less accurate than other QB's in the league. The difference is that other QB's have receivers that go after the ball and CATCH it!

Have you ever watch Alex play? Have you watched the good NFL QBs play? It is obvious that they are way more accurate than Alex. Here is a exercise you can do to help you see what everyone else does. Watch an Alex Smith highlight clip and watch a drew Breese or Peyton Manning, or even Aaron Rogers highlight clip. Watch where their WRs catch the ball and how many of their WRs have to dive or jump or reach for the passes and how many of them catch the ball while running full speed and how many are led by their QB away from the defenders.

BTW, you can't really blame the WRs that much. Jimmy Raye said this on his exit interview where he didn't have to cove for Alex anymore. He said, " We didn't think, 'We're not going to throw the ball down the field. I saw a couple go-routes fail over the top of Crabtree's head out of bounds." You can question Raye's character and call him a liar or you can realize that he is not as accurate as some of the QBs that aren't in the NFL right now.

the question is have you watched ANY nfl games? Breese, Manning and Rodgers throw passes that are off target all of the time. The difference is that they have receivers that go up and CATCH the ball. Guess what Joe Montana and Steve Young threw off target, but they had receivers that would go up and get the ball.

This is just comical.

Sure every QB throws an off target pass once in a while. With Alex, it's the norm. He only throws an on target pass once in a while. Think about it, in all the years Alex has been here, how many receivers has he hit in stride. Very few!.. These are known facts, so I'm not sure why you want to continue this debate.

When you are a receiver trying to go after a QB's pass that is never consistent with ball placement, you are left guessing every play with "where's it gonna be this time". In College, the talent is low enough that most receivers can work with this; but, in the pros (where the ball is typically thrown before the receiver has a chance to see where the QB is aiming) the receiver has to trust the ball will be on the outside shoulder, or away from coverage, or thrown with enough touch that he can cover the delta...

I thought this was common knowledge; but, who knows what you'll get here on the zone...
[ Edited by D_Niner on Sep 28, 2010 at 3:10 PM ]
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball



Classic apologist response. "It's not Alex's fault; everyone else has the problem"

when did I say that Smith wasn't at fault??? Matt Maiocco stated that 4 out of 5 interceptions that Smith has thrown Crabtree was the target and were tipped passes. But you're right "classic apologist response"

The little "s" that you put at the end of receiver makes it plural. Crabtree is one person so that would require the singular "receiver" to be used. Since you used the plural you stated that multiple receivers have this problem.

Now, the rest of you sentence implies that Alex is not the problem; but our receivers not catching the ball is. If you go back and look at ball placement on these INT's, you will see that your statement is not entirely accurate either.

It is a statement made by most, if not all, apologist here on the zone!


the little "s" refers to the dropped passes by the other receivers. Trust me by no means do I feel that Smith is accurate, but he isn't any less accurate than other QB's in the league. The difference is that other QB's have receivers that go after the ball and CATCH it!

Have you ever watch Alex play? Have you watched the good NFL QBs play? It is obvious that they are way more accurate than Alex. Here is a exercise you can do to help you see what everyone else does. Watch an Alex Smith highlight clip and watch a drew Breese or Peyton Manning, or even Aaron Rogers highlight clip. Watch where their WRs catch the ball and how many of their WRs have to dive or jump or reach for the passes and how many of them catch the ball while running full speed and how many are led by their QB away from the defenders.

BTW, you can't really blame the WRs that much. Jimmy Raye said this on his exit interview where he didn't have to cove for Alex anymore. He said, " We didn't think, 'We're not going to throw the ball down the field. I saw a couple go-routes fail over the top of Crabtree's head out of bounds." You can question Raye's character and call him a liar or you can realize that he is not as accurate as some of the QBs that aren't in the NFL right now.

the question is have you watched ANY nfl games? Breese, Manning and Rodgers throw passes that are off target all of the time. The difference is that they have receivers that go up and CATCH the ball. Guess what Joe Montana and Steve Young threw off target, but they had receivers that would go up and get the ball.

This is just commercial.

Sure every QB throws an off target pass once in a while. With Alex, it's the norm. He only throws an on target pass once in a while. Think about it, in all the years Alex has been here, how many receivers has he hit in stride. Very few!.. These are known facts, so I'm not sure why you want to continue this debate.

When you are a receiver trying to go after a QB's pass that is never consistent with ball placement, you are left guessing every play with "where's it gonna be this time". In College, the talent is low enough that most receivers can work with this; but, in the pros (where the ball is typically thrown before the receiver has a chance to see where the QB is aiming) the receiver has to trust the ball will be on the outside shoulder, or away from coverage, or thrown with enough touch that he can cover the delta...

I though this was common knowledge; but, who knows what you'll get here on the zone...

Did you watch the NO game? Smith was pretty money during that game. I mean how can you all a QB who completed more than 70% of his passes inaccurate all of the time?
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by flynhayn15:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball



Classic apologist response. "It's not Alex's fault; everyone else has the problem"

when did I say that Smith wasn't at fault??? Matt Maiocco stated that 4 out of 5 interceptions that Smith has thrown Crabtree was the target and were tipped passes. But you're right "classic apologist response"

The little "s" that you put at the end of receiver makes it plural. Crabtree is one person so that would require the singular "receiver" to be used. Since you used the plural you stated that multiple receivers have this problem.

Now, the rest of you sentence implies that Alex is not the problem; but our receivers not catching the ball is. If you go back and look at ball placement on these INT's, you will see that your statement is not entirely accurate either.

It is a statement made by most, if not all, apologist here on the zone!


the little "s" refers to the dropped passes by the other receivers. Trust me by no means do I feel that Smith is accurate, but he isn't any less accurate than other QB's in the league. The difference is that other QB's have receivers that go after the ball and CATCH it!

Have you ever watch Alex play? Have you watched the good NFL QBs play? It is obvious that they are way more accurate than Alex. Here is a exercise you can do to help you see what everyone else does. Watch an Alex Smith highlight clip and watch a drew Breese or Peyton Manning, or even Aaron Rogers highlight clip. Watch where their WRs catch the ball and how many of their WRs have to dive or jump or reach for the passes and how many of them catch the ball while running full speed and how many are led by their QB away from the defenders.

BTW, you can't really blame the WRs that much. Jimmy Raye said this on his exit interview where he didn't have to cove for Alex anymore. He said, " We didn't think, 'We're not going to throw the ball down the field. I saw a couple go-routes fail over the top of Crabtree's head out of bounds." You can question Raye's character and call him a liar or you can realize that he is not as accurate as some of the QBs that aren't in the NFL right now.

the question is have you watched ANY nfl games? Breese, Manning and Rodgers throw passes that are off target all of the time. The difference is that they have receivers that go up and CATCH the ball. Guess what Joe Montana and Steve Young threw off target, but they had receivers that would go up and get the ball.

This is just commercial.

Sure every QB throws an off target pass once in a while. With Alex, it's the norm. He only throws an on target pass once in a while. Think about it, in all the years Alex has been here, how many receivers has he hit in stride. Very few!.. These are known facts, so I'm not sure why you want to continue this debate.

When you are a receiver trying to go after a QB's pass that is never consistent with ball placement, you are left guessing every play with "where's it gonna be this time". In College, the talent is low enough that most receivers can work with this; but, in the pros (where the ball is typically thrown before the receiver has a chance to see where the QB is aiming) the receiver has to trust the ball will be on the outside shoulder, or away from coverage, or thrown with enough touch that he can cover the delta...

I though this was common knowledge; but, who knows what you'll get here on the zone...

Did you watch the NO game? Smith was pretty money during that game. I mean how can you all a QB who completed more than 70% of his passes inaccurate all of the time?

Sweet, now add that to his other 2 good games since 2005 and what do you have?

Did you know David Carr did that in 8 games one year? Hell, he was even in the 80% completions in 2 games...
[ Edited by D_Niner on Sep 28, 2010 at 3:15 PM ]


anyone got a nail gun handy?
Can't have swag if you get your eyebrows done.

I'm just sayin'
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:


anyone got a nail gun handy?

thats f**king nasty
Alex needs to be cut
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Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball

wr's that actually catch the ball... Alexcuse #289

Originally posted by fly15:
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by D_Niner:
If by Swaggggggg you mean help throwing with proper ball placement to a moving target; then yes, I would agree...

BALL PLACEMENT!!!?? psssssssssss an NFL QB does NOT need that!

you're right, they need receivers that actually catch the ball

wr's that actually catch the ball... Alexcuse #289


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The announcer of the last game against KC (his name is slipping my mind) said, "I would love to see this team let their hair down and have fun." Referring to the niners. I couldn't agree more. This whole team needs swag, and needs to play "looser." Hopefully a new play caller can help this out.
Would you like to see him do the hip-thrust and smoking pistol like Rodgers? And I hope 49er fans watched that game last night. Rodgers played well, but had some huge misses that contributed to the loss. He is good, but he isn't the god many fans make him out to be when they're trashing Smith. I truly do think they're very similar QBs, but I'd give the edge to Rodgers. If Smith played in a more competent offense with Rodgers' weapons, he'd look better than he already does.
Originally posted by sacniner:
The announcer of the last game against KC (his name is slipping my mind) said, "I would love to see this team let their hair down and have fun." Referring to the niners. I couldn't agree more. This whole team needs swag, and needs to play "looser." Hopefully a new play caller can help this out.

We need attitude...well at least on defense.
Originally posted by CrankDatCrabtree:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by BirdmanJr:
Originally posted by verb1der:
What do you guys think about Aaron Rodgers "swag" when he shows off some kind of imaginary wrestling belt around his waist after a score?!

dat swag

lol f*ck Aaron Rodgers! Because everytime I watch how great he plays (with the wrestling belt swag) it breaks my heart.



F..K that! He stole that gay ass move from Freddie Mitchell!

Tune to min 3:48.



As far as Rodgers being so accurate. Did you happen to notice how much separation his receivers got? And I don't want to hear he threw them open.


Stop comparing Smith to Peyton or Brady or Brees. Two are locks for the HOF and Brees has a shot.
Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
Would you like to see him do the hip-thrust and smoking pistol like Rodgers? And I hope 49er fans watched that game last night. Rodgers played well, but had some huge misses that contributed to the loss. He is good, but he isn't the god many fans make him out to be when they're trashing Smith. I truly do think they're very similar QBs, but I'd give the edge to Rodgers. If Smith played in a more competent offense with Rodgers' weapons, he'd look better than he already does.

you'd give Rodgers a "edge"???? Smith will never be half the QB Rodgers is!!!

Smith has just as many if not more weapons than Rodgers and can't do s**t with them. Point is Rodgers has old spice swagg and smith is a math geek who fronts as a football player.
Alex Smith doesn't even know what swag is. He went to Utah.